It's Coming: Pardons for all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession...
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I have no issue with this, including no issue with the naked political pandering.
I'm fine with this, but it will really only be decriminalization that moves the needle. A pardon is a point in time relief for those already convicted and may help some get on track, if the stigma or reality have been dragging them down. However, there's nothing stopping the next round of offenders from being locked up, thus perpetuating the cycle.
I have never understood the anger when someone in Washington passes a bill, law, etc. in an attempt to get votes. Isn’t that the way it is supposed to work? Shouldn’t the things they do make people want to vote for them? It’s kind of the whole point of elections.
I think this is step one to working toward that. Notice too that he instructed his admin to examine the schedule status. Changing that is the next step toward decriminalizing.
Its always been difficult for me to want to see people jailed for possession. I dont use it, but definitely struggle to see some significant difference between going home after work to smoke a joint or eat an edible and going home to drink a bottle of wine on a Friday.
Driving while high?- sure there should be consequences. Underage use?- sure there should be consequences.
Having some weed in your pocket even though you are stone cold sober?- nope, thats a dumb arrest.
Decriminalization is whats ultimately needed. Well really whats first needed is that Marijuana is no longer a Schedule 1 drug. That is absolutely terrible and those who set it that way decades ago should be ashamed. Not being able to really study the effects is insane.
Driving while high?- sure there should be consequences. Underage use?- sure there should be consequences.
Having some weed in your pocket even though you are stone cold sober?- nope, thats a dumb arrest.
Decriminalization is whats ultimately needed. Well really whats first needed is that Marijuana is no longer a Schedule 1 drug. That is absolutely terrible and those who set it that way decades ago should be ashamed. Not being able to really study the effects is insane.
This isn't going to free up prison space. People generally aren't in prison for simple possession. There may be a few inmates who pled down from more serious charges, but this is really about letting people not in prison avoid the stigma of a federal conviction.
This is fine, but it'd be way more appropriate for Congress to actually decriminalize marijuana. Ridiculous to have members of the legislative branch complaining about marijuana being illegal but not actually doing any work to get a bill drafted and moved through Congress. It's not even political cowardice at this point, it's just extreme laziness.
Not exactly. There are two types of complaints people generally make on the pandering (ignoring the crackpots). First is passing a law to take from some people and give to others. All though it's definitely a weaker norm now, there is still a sense that laws should be just and fair in addition to moving through the appropriate political process. That's not at issue here.
The second is when people pander by working outside of constitutional limits. This isn't really outside of constitutional limits, but it is still sort of a violation of norms because it is essentially nullifying law without due process. Sort of similar to the wholesale versus retail prosecutorial discretion argument. I say sort of a norm violation because I think the political will to decriminalize at least possession is probably there on the federal level, it's just a crazy level of laziness and dysfunction that legislators would rather complain about the law than actually do the relatively light lift that would be required to change the law.
Great. Biden finally makes a decision that doesn’t cause clear and substantial damage to the country. Yay, I suppose.
I hate Team Biden but I'm no dedicated blind lover of the reupblican party and only vote repub cuz I see them as the lesser of the 2 evils. But this is a move in the right direction. Lots of folks in county jails right now because they were out on bond but a UA found weed and can't get bailed out which is utter BS. The War on Drugs has been just as destructive and futile as the War on Poverty. I've been to Amsterdam and I'll take it over Chicago everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. If someone wants to destroy their life using narcotics, then have at it but don't ask me to write a check to The Treasury about it. FK the cartells in the process too.
I'd like to think there's a certain amount of ineptness at play as well.
There are a few Republican Women Politicians that I would like to see pander politically while naked. I'd contribute.
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I was curious but couldn't find a straight answer. How many people are in Federal prison for simple possession ?
If you truly wanted mariujuana decriminalized, then tell your sitting representatives that they either vote for it or you will be voting for a candidate that will.
It's that simple. You do not have to vote democrat, just a republican that pledges to vote for decriminalization. It is past time for that.
It's that simple. You do not have to vote democrat, just a republican that pledges to vote for decriminalization. It is past time for that.
A definite Corso resemblence but I'd still like to see her nekkid. Just cuz. I mean it would still be bettern Margaret Thatcher on a Cold Day.
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Yuk two ugly women who couldn’t pass concussion protocols even if they paid the doctor.
It's really not that simple. There are more important things going on than weed.
Somebody needs to tell Joe about this.**
We all know Joe likes Psychedelics. He tries talk to dead people.
He has to do this because thanks to him almost no one can afford the more expensive drugs.
The pardons are going to be really great for people not in jail whose convictions are making it hard to find jobs or housing, but the real difference maker going forward is moving marijuana off the Scehdule 1 list.
It needed to be done a long time ago. But if Biden had any integrity whatsoever, it would've been done a year ago and not a month before some gloomy-looking midterms. This is pretty shameless pandering from a timing perspective.
The answer for people in federal prison for only simple possession is exactly *zero*.
Agreed that it's definitely pandering. The Dank Brandon tweets I've seen are good but this one is as well and also goes into timing...:
Bingo. Gas is going to start rising again. Economy is in a recession. More bad news coming on that. WaPo says feds have enough evidence to charge Hunter Biden. Polls are **** for democrats in most of the country. So, let's issue pardons that's mostly symbolic and doesn't really move the needle on anything, but hey, all the newscasts will cover it breathlessly and just maybe, Biden can lock down the stoner vote and blunt (no pun intended; okay, may a little intended) these freefalling poll numbers.
Then I withdraw my previous statement regarding freeing up prison space. The moral of the story, as always, is don’t voice opinions on topics that you know jack shiite about
LMAO; "I mean c'moan man, smoke some weed, smell kid's hair and shower with your daughter; You know the thing man!! Wanna see how white my leg hair gets in the summer?"
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