Josh Pate - ''College Officiating is a Joke''

[PrestonyteParrot]

I agree with Kirby Smart - ''A dangerous precedent has been set''.
And Josh Pate - ''It's a multi-million-dollar sport with nickel and dime officiating''.

Edit - Sorry, forgot to post the link
College Football Officiating Was HORRIBLE Saturday - Josh Pate Reaction (youtube.com)

 

[92Pony]

I love Josh Pate's takes on things.

Oh, and the LSU-refs-against-us still maintaining traction!

 

[18IsTheMan]

The simple solution is to make every call on the field reviewable, penalties included.

As an anti-replay person, it boggles my mind why all penalties are not reviewable.

 

[Piscis]

All the P4 conferences, especially the SEC, have more than enough money to hire professional full time officials that have no connection to any of the schools in the conference. The head referee in the UGA/Texas game went to TCU, lives in Dallas and has a son who has an undergrad and graduate degree from the University of Texas. How can that man be allowed to officiate a game involving Texas? The SEC office is in Birmingham of all places.

The SEC is the premier college football conference and the officiating across the board is embarrassingly bad in pretty much every game.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

All the P4 conferences, especially the SEC, have more than enough money to hire professional full time officials that have no connection to any of the schools in the conference. The head referee in the UGA/Texas game went to TCU, lives in Dallas and has a son who has an undergrad and graduate degree from the University of Texas. How can that man be allowed to officiate a game involving Texas? The SEC office is in Birmingham of all places.

The SEC is the premier college football conference and the officiating across the board is embarrassingly bad in pretty much every game.

The fact that SEC Officiating is the brunt of jokes and memes should be embarrassing enough to provoke the league into action, but the money comes in regardless so why bother has to be the attitude of the league office.

 

[ClassOf95]

The simple solution is to make every call on the field reviewable, penalties included.

As an anti-replay person, it boggles my mind why all penalties are not reviewable.

Agree, refs are human, not perfect. I'd give each coach three penalty reviews per half.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Agree, refs are human, not perfect. I'd give each coach three penalty reviews per half.

Yeah, something at least.

I mean, I'm against replay altogether. Just play the game. But the strong argument for replay is "it's important to get the call right!" If that's the rationale, it makes no logical sense to exclude penalties...except for targeting (why that one can be reviewed but not others is anyone's guess).

 

[Piscis]

Yeah, something at least.

I mean, I'm against replay altogether. Just play the game. But the strong argument for replay is "it's important to get the call right!" If that's the rationale, it makes no logical sense to exclude penalties...except for targeting (why that one can be reviewed but not others is anyone's guess).

Give a coach two challenges per half for anything they want to challenge. Outside of that, play the game without any reviews, like all games used to be played for over 100 years. The two reviews should eliminate the "one bad call cost us the game" excuse.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Give a coach two challenges per half for anything they want to challenge. Outside of that, play the game without any reviews, like all games used to be played for over 100 years. The two reviews should eliminate the "one bad call cost us the game" excuse.

Pretty good solution. Up it to 3, and I'm down with that. And they can throw the review flag anytime they want without being penalized a TO if the review doesn't come back in their favor.

3 per team per half should provide enough to cover any egregious calls. Enough, as you say, to eliminate anyone blaming a loss on the refs.

There are too many unnecessary reviews as it is. Let the coaches decide what's important enough. Can't remember which game it was over the weekend, but the game was in the final minutes and the outcome was extremely well in hand. But the refs took like 2 minutes to review whether a particular catch was in-bounds or not for a first down. It was a totally meaningless play.

 

[Piscis]

Pretty good solution. Up it to 3, and I'm down with that. And they can throw the review flag anytime they want without being penalized a TO if the review doesn't come back in their favor.

3 per team per half should provide enough to cover any egregious calls. Enough, as you say, to eliminate anyone blaming a loss on the refs.

There are too many unnecessary reviews as it is. Let the coaches decide what's important enough. Can't remember which game it was over the weekend, but the game was in the final minutes and the outcome was extremely well in hand. But the refs took like 2 minutes to review whether a particular catch was in-bounds or not for a first down. It was a totally meaningless play.

I could live with 3, they don't have to use them all. I bet you would be surprised at how few challenges coaches actually made.

 

[92Pony]

For a long time I’ve thought personal fouls ought to be reviewed to get the instigator as opposed to the 2nd guy.

 

[Southern Fried Chicken]

Agree, refs are human, not perfect. I'd give each coach three penalty reviews per half.

I have said it before and I will say it EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS CRAP IS POSTED .... Lou Holtz said it best ..." FANS wanna coach, COACHES wanna Ref the game and the Refs just wanna watch."

 

[Southern Fried Chicken]

For a long time I’ve thought personal fouls ought to be reviewed to get the instigator as opposed to the 2nd guy.

I see your logic but, then that leads to ... how many times leads to ejection? i.e. 2 Un sportsman like conduct calls are a disqualification. ......... which I strongly support!

 

[Southern Fried Chicken]

And Josh Pate - ''It's a multi-million-dollar sport with nickel and dime officiating''.

I, personally, know four individuals, who have been involved with officiating sports for a number of years (Primarily football but, other sports as well. One is a weekly, NCAA official & NFL fill-in when needed, 1 small college ref, the other two are HS Refs.

I personally have never met men of higher integrity. Seriously!

EDIT: I am a decorated U.S. MARINE

 

[92Pony]

I see your logic but, then that leads to ... how many times leads to ejection? i.e. 2 Un sportsman like conduct calls are a disqualification. ......... which I strongly support!

Personally, I'd be fine with a mix-or-match; Any two would qualify for ejection. 2 pf, 2USC, one of each....... But then, I don't have any patience for the extra curricular nonsense.

 

[Cackmandu]

He ain't wrong! Great weekend wrapup show!

A couple of lines from the show. Where do you go from here Sark? Well, we go to Nashville!
Kirby postgame, Kirby went all Dabo mode!

 

[golden spike]

Football only? I went with daughter to Wofford / Pitt baseball game a few years ago...rainy day...30 fans in stands...short fly to center with runner on first...trap or catch? field ump ruled catch and runner on way to second scampered back to first....over throw into dugout...umpires huddled and put runner on second / batter was out...I yelled onto field - 2 bases from time of throw...sustained silence...yelled again and umpires huddled and then placed runner on third...Pitt coach came onto field and argued with both umpires and then looked into stands...my daughter grabbed my arm as if to say be quiet dad...we think FB and BB are bad...