Justin Stepp Leaving

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Coach Stepp made gold our of these three receivers that not really provided a spark.

1 2021 Josh Vann
2 2022 ungrateful kid that transferred to Mississippi
3. 2023 Xavier Legette

Why let someone good just walk away. Huge mistake.
 

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Coach Stepp made gold our of these three receivers that not really provided a spark.

1 2021 Josh Vann
2 2022 ungrateful kid that transferred to Mississippi
3. 2023 Xavier Legette

Why let someone good just walk away. Huge mistake.
I think something happened between he and Beamer or the other coaches. Maybe being moved TE coach did him in. It can't be money and he loves carolina and being near family.
 
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I would say he felt undervalued and unappreciated. If so, you move on.
However, I'm not happy to see him go.
 
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I think something happened between he and Beamer or the other coaches. Maybe being moved TE coach did him in. It can't be money and he loves carolina and being near family.
I knew just by the first game last season the signs showed it was going to a rough season.

1. South Carolina defense had 13 players on the field and still could not stop Tarheels from scoring
2. Quarterbach get sacked nine times.
3. Coach talking about eating hotdogs in the post game press conference

With Coach Stepp being forced out could be a bad sign of things to come for this season.
 

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I knew just by the first game last season the signs showed it was going to a rough season.

1. South Carolina defense had 13 players on the field and still could not stop Tarheels from scoring
2. Quarterbach get sacked nine times.
3. Coach talking about eating hotdogs in the post game press conference

With Coach Stepp being forced out could be a bad sign of things to come for this season.
Hey, on the bright side we retained our DC. 😃
 

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Hey, on the bright side we retained our DC. 😃
Coach White from time to time shows that he can be good but this upcoming season he can not wait until November to shine. This running off Coach Stepp to Illinois is outrageous. Coach Tanner needs to text Coach Beamer and ask him what the hell is going on.

 

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Nothing against the guy, but I don’t think many on this staff are irreplaceable. Outside of one good receiver a year, has our WR group looked stellar? For the most part, they have been average at best overall.

Now the frustration lies because the two most glaring coaching concerns are still here.
 

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Coach Stepp made gold our of these three receivers that not really provided a spark.

1 2021 Josh Vann
2 2022 ungrateful kid that transferred to Mississippi
3. 2023 Xavier Legette

Why let someone good just walk away. Huge mistake.
I don’t think it’s that big a deal. Vann was literally the only receiving threat we had in 21, unless you count Nick Muse. The ungrateful one was already our best WR the day he stepped on campus. It took him 4 years to get anything out of X. There’s a reason Beamer made a big balls move to bring Coley in rather than hiring another TE coach. No need to think any more of it than that.
 

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I knew just by the first game last season the signs showed it was going to a rough season.

1. South Carolina defense had 13 players on the field and still could not stop Tarheels from scoring
2. Quarterbach get sacked nine times.
3. Coach talking about eating hotdogs in the post game press conference

With Coach Stepp being forced out could be a bad sign of things to come for this season.
That’s a lot to put on a WR coach! 😂
 
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Nothing against the guy, but I don’t think many on this staff are irreplaceable. Outside of one good receiver a year, has our WR group looked stellar? For the most part, they have been average at best overall.

Now the frustration lies because the two most glaring coaching concerns are still here.
None are irreplaceable. Starting at the very top. We were 5-7 last year and at times looked like total crap.
 

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This is the second coach from this area that has elected to leave this program. I‘m a little surprised by Stepp but I was shocked to see Kimery leave his “Dream Job” to go back to high school ranks. This dude knows how to coach football and for him to take off like that says to me he wasn’t 100% bought in to what Beamer was or is doing. This dude was coaching in the SEC and would have opened many doors for him down the road. Has anyone noticed that the D1 dudes he has at Baylor none (that I’m aware of) have even mentioned Carolina as a possibility.
 
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This is the second coach from this area that has elected to leave this program. I‘m a little surprised by Stepp but I was shocked to see Kimery leave his “Dream Job” to go back to high school ranks. This dude knows how to coach football and for him to take off like that says to me he wasn’t 100% bought in to what Beamer was or is doing. This dude was coaching in the SEC and would have opened many doors for him down the road. Has anyone noticed that the D1 dudes he has at Baylor none (that I’m aware of) have even mentioned Carolina as a possibility.
100% agree. Who the hell wants to go to champagne, Illinois vs an SEC program in your backyard? Something doesn't feel right here.
 

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I don’t think it’s that big a deal. Vann was literally the only receiving threat we had in 21, unless you count Nick Muse. The ungrateful one was already our best WR the day he stepped on campus. It took him 4 years to get anything out of X. There’s a reason Beamer made a big balls move to bring Coley in rather than hiring another TE coach. No need to think any more of it than that.
This is what I'm thinking, I like Justin, but we wouldn't have brought in Coley if it wasn't an upgrade and he walking away to a lateral move to Ill. at best tells me someone wasn't happy. Hope we can pull in a true TE coach that can recruit.
 
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This is what I'm thinking, I like Justin, but we wouldn't have brought in Coley if it wasn't an upgrade and he walking away to a lateral move to Ill. at best tells me someone wasn't happy. Hope we can pull in a true TE coach that can recruit.
You believe this if you have 100% confidence in Beamer's ability to hire and retain. I guess that continuity doesn't matter as much on offense as it does on defense?
 
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There was something off for him to be moved to TEs - it's definitely considered a lower coaching position than WRs. But that's just the way these things happen sometimes. Not surprised at all that he decided to leave after the demotion (in fact, I'd have been more surprised if he had stayed). This wasn't the program where he was going to progress his career anymore.
 

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You believe this if you have 100% confidence in Beamer's ability to hire and retain. I guess that continuity doesn't matter as much on offense as it does on defense?
It's always been a longer task to build a defense than an offense. 1 or 2 players on O can make a world of difference. I think the same is true for coaches.
 

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This is what I'm thinking, I like Justin, but we wouldn't have brought in Coley if it wasn't an upgrade and he walking away to a lateral move to Ill. at best tells me someone wasn't happy. Hope we can pull in a true TE coach that can recruit.
I agree. Some people are reaching for something more when the answer is right in front of their faces. Beamer can try to sugar coat it all he wants, but he demoted Stepp and hired a guy with a much better track record to replace him. Our WR room this year was a glaring weakness. X was great. He had 1,255 yds and 7 TDs. The next highest WR was Brown with 265 yds. Blake was 2nd in TDs with 2. That's just a huge spread that proves Stepp didn't build any quality depth in that room. The Wells injury only accelerated this debacle. It's not hard to see.
 
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I agree. Some people are reaching for something more when the answer is right in front of their faces. Beamer can try to sugar coat it all he wants, but he demoted Stepp and hired a guy with a much better track record to replace him. Our WR room this year was a glaring weakness. X was great. He had 1,255 yds and 7 TDs. The next highest WR was Brown with 265 yds. Blake was 2nd in TDs with 2. That's just a huge spread that proves Stepp didn't build any quality depth in that room. The Wells injury only accelerated this debacle. It's not hard to see.
Not hard to see if you are 100% confident in Beamer. Some of his personnel decisions have been head scratchers, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Not sure I'm buying the continuity excuse. When I see see our all-American safety getting abused at corner, coaching needs to be questioned.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in Beamer's corner but I'm past the "trust the coaches" grace period.
 
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Nothing against the guy, but I don’t think many on this staff are irreplaceable. Outside of one good receiver a year, has our WR group looked stellar? For the most part, they have been average at best overall.

Now the frustration lies because the two most glaring coaching concerns are still here.
Do you mean DC and Head Coach?
 

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This is the second coach from this area that has elected to leave this program. I‘m a little surprised by Stepp but I was shocked to see Kimery leave his “Dream Job” to go back to high school ranks. This dude knows how to coach football and for him to take off like that says to me he wasn’t 100% bought in to what Beamer was or is doing. This dude was coaching in the SEC and would have opened many doors for him down the road. Has anyone noticed that the D1 dudes he has at Baylor none (that I’m aware of) have even mentioned Carolina as a possibility.

I disagree on Kimrey. Kimrey didn't like what college football entailed, so he went to go be with a very good friend at the Baylor school. Some people don't want the high pressure of major D1 or NFL coaches.

Beamer has gone up to Baylor multiple times, and we've recruited a couple of kid from the school, too. You can't really expect Kimrey to create a pipeline from the school to Carolina. You should just expect him to say good things about the school and program.
 
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Not hard to see if you are 100% confident in Beamer. Some of his personnel decisions have been head scratchers, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Not sure I'm buying the continuity excuse. When I see see our all-American safety getting abused at corner, coaching needs to be questioned.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in Beamer's corner but I'm past the "trust the coaches" grace period.
It's not that I just trust Beamer on this one. I just didn't see a reason to trust Stepp. I'm not glad he's gone, but not sad he's gone either. I just don't think it's that big a deal. Especially when we're able to bring in a guy like Coley. That was a big time hire.

Before the season started people weren't focusing on our CB situation. Most were consumed with the Juice injury and the RB situation. We had no CB depth at all. We lost Rose and Upshaw to that stupid gun incident. That hurt. And I don't think they expected Rush to go pro.
 

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Apparently, he did not like the change in positions and decided it was time to leave. That's how professionals handle it. Kudos to him. Also obvious Coach Beamer felt like a change was needed. There have been multiple posts on here complaining about the wr room and the lack of difference makers in the receiving corps and recruiting misses, justified or not. Now that a change is being made it's interesting posters are critical of what was perceived as a needed change. Let's wait on the outcome and see who the replacement will be before making judgments. Personally, I think the new te coach is an upgrade and perhaps the next hire will be also. Remember multiple posters were demanding coaching changes. Now here they are.
 
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It's not that I just trust Beamer on this one. I just didn't see a reason to trust Stepp. I'm not glad he's gone, but not sad he's gone either. I just don't think it's that big a deal. Especially when we're able to bring in a guy like Coley. That was a big time hire.

Before the season started people weren't focusing on our CB situation. Most were consumed with the Juice injury and the RB situation. We had no CB depth at all. We lost Rose and Upshaw to that stupid gun incident. That hurt. And I don't think they expected Rush to go pro.
We are giving the defensive coach a pass because of a lack of depth but throwing stepp to the wolves for the same reason. Not sure I'm following.
 

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We are giving the defensive coach a pass because of a lack of depth but throwing stepp to the wolves for the same reason. Not sure I'm following.
I'm not going to defend keeping White. However Rose and Upshaw were promising players. Losing them was a huge blow, and completely out of the control of White/Gray. So when Dial goes down, it made it much more difficult to absorb. We had depth issues at LB and DL as well. I think Beamer had all the evidence he needed to fire him. But likely ultimately decided that we needed to focus on getting better players rather than hitting the reset button on the D. Beamer is at a point where he can't really afford any major mistakes. He's got a lot of guys returning on D, a lot of talent coming in. They should be good enough with White to improve. IMO this was more about him creating some breathing room for himself.
 
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Apparently, he did not like the change in positions and decided it was time to leave. That's how professionals handle it. Kudos to him. Also obvious Coach Beamer felt like a change was needed. There have been multiple posts on here complaining about the wr room and the lack of difference makers in the receiving corps and recruiting misses, justified or not. Now that a change is being made it's interesting posters are critical of what was perceived as a needed change. Let's wait on the outcome and see who the replacement will be before making judgments. Personally, I think the new te coach is an upgrade and perhaps the next hire will be also. Remember multiple posters were demanding coaching changes. Now here they are.
This is spot on.
 

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I'm not going to defend keeping White. However Rose and Upshaw were promising players. Losing them was a huge blow, and completely out of the control of White/Gray. So when Dial goes down, it made it much more difficult to absorb. We had depth issues at LB and DL as well. I think Beamer had all the evidence he needed to fire him. But likely ultimately decided that we needed to focus on getting better players rather than hitting the reset button on the D. Beamer is at a point where he can't really afford any major mistakes. He's got a lot of guys returning on D, a lot of talent coming in. They should be good enough with White to improve. IMO this was more about him creating some breathing room for himself.
I think White had a lot more talent and experience last year than folks realize. They waited until the last several games to put in a LB that played lights out. They replaced a slow LB that was consistently out of position and has since transferred. It tool all year to make that change.

I know you aren't defending White but I'm not buying the lack of talent excuse on defense that folks are claiming. Playing N.E. at CB is inexcusable regardless of the talent at CB. If you moved him to LB, I get it. CB is simply crazy at his size.
 

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I think White had a lot more talent and experience last year than folks realize. They waited until the last several games to put in a LB that played lights out. They replaced a slow LB that was consistently out of position and has since transferred. It tool all year to make that change.

I know you aren't defending White but I'm not buying the lack of talent excuse on defense that folks are claiming. Playing N.E. at CB is inexcusable regardless of the talent at CB. If you moved him to LB, I get it. CB is simply crazy at his size.
I don't disagree with any of that. We did have depth issues at DL though. Those starting guys played A LOT of snaps. Crazy that it took so long to try the 3-3-5 and get Bam on the field. I guess at the end of the day, there are reasons to be excited about D. There are some dudes over there. You can't say that about WR, outside of hoping Nyck takes a big leap forward and the transfers pan out.
 
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Very disappointing to see him leave. I know a few folks had problems with Justin, but he is a great guy and a great coach. Maybe we can upgrade and make us forget about this being a loss. JMO
 

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Very disappointing to see him leave. I know a few folks had problems with Justin, but he is a great guy and a great coach. Maybe we can upgrade and make us forget about this being a loss. JMO
Agreed. Know some of the Stepp family personally. Good people. You obviously can't have all players and coaches that are native Colombians or South Carolinian but it's always great to have a few.
 

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Justin Stepp is a model of comprehensively good manhood in coaching. Best wishes to him.
 
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