Kenny Picket breaks Marino's record.........

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Very true. It would be easy to make long list of pitt QBs who failed in the NFL. Dan "Sniff Sniff" Marino was the only one who was a successful pro QB. I will never be convinced that he was better than Blackledge. Mario was drafted late in the first round and fell into a great organization in Miami at the time. He had a great OL to protect him and superb wide receivers to catch his passes. Blackledge got drafted seventh overall by the putrid Chiefs and wasn't all that successful. He was usually running for his life and watching receivers drop his passes. Of course, he ended up hurt a lot and eventually left the NFL. If Blackledge would have gone to Miami he might be in the NFL HOF today.
Todd Blackledge was an outstanding college Qb. To suggest he would have been as good as Marino in the NFL if he played for the Dolphins is absurd.
 

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But who had more parking tickets? That's your real Pitt accomplishment when you play nobody.
Tony Dorsett was the king with over 2k. And what does the City of Pittsburgh do? Honors the drunk by naming a street after him.
 

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Very true. It would be easy to make long list of pitt QBs who failed in the NFL. Dan "Sniff Sniff" Marino was the only one who was a successful pro QB. I will never be convinced that he was better than Blackledge. Mario was drafted late in the first round and fell into a great organization in Miami at the time. He had a great OL to protect him and superb wide receivers to catch his passes. Blackledge got drafted seventh overall by the putrid Chiefs and wasn't all that successful. He was usually running for his life and watching receivers drop his passes. Of course, he ended up hurt a lot and eventually left the NFL. If Blackledge would have gone to Miami he might be in the NFL HOF today.
I find it ironic, given some of the posts in this thread, that Todd Tweeted yesterday:
"Right now, if I picked a QB for the Heisman Trophy it would be Kenny Pickett of Pitt ".
 

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Wait, are we talking about the Pitt QB who's about 28 years old, has been at Pitt for like seven years, sucked for his first four years, and has played against Western Michigan every week? That's who some are anointing as the second coming of Joe Montana?

Please!
 

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Wait, are we talking about the Pitt QB who's about 28 years old, has been at Pitt for like seven years, sucked for his first four years, and has played against Western Michigan every week? That's who some are anointing as the second coming of Joe Montana?

Please!
and several good NFL QB played against weak competitions, not everyone went to Bama or Ohio State.

Bottom line, Steelers need to draft a QB this year, Ben is not coming back. Mason is absolutely horrible. The bet FA is Teddy Bridgewater who Denver most likely will resign. So what do they do? Just keep ignoring the position like they have done for the past 3 years?

You could play Mason in 2022, but I just don't see them winning a game with him tbh. He is that bad.
 

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Wait, are we talking about the Pitt QB who's about 28 years old, has been at Pitt for like seven years, sucked for his first four years, and has played against Western Michigan every week? That's who some are anointing as the second coming of Joe Montana?

Please!
In fairness, he threw for 372 yards against us in 2019. Through no fault of Pickett, Pitt lost by 7 but we won 11 games that year.
 

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Bottom line, Steelers need to draft a QB this year,
Really? Why? Whether Ben is back or not isn't the issue here. The actual issues with the Steelers run much deeper than one guy.

They are weaker than weak up the middle on both O and D. So, they can't run the ball or protect ANY QB, or stop the run. They look like Penn State!

They wasted their only top 10 pick in the last decade on an undersized middle linebacker who is afraid of contact. Teams don't have to game plan for the Steelers right now; just run the ball at #55. Another real Michigan man.

Their best cover man is 32 and hurt again. Their next best cover man is playing for the Eagles. Their third best cover man is playing for the Bungles. This leaves nothing but late round rookies, FAs, and journeymen back benchers.

The closest thing to a #1 WR on the team is on the IR. The next best guy is actually a slot receiver without top end speed. The next guy (Claypool) puts out minimal effort most plays, inexplicably drops passes that hit him on the numbers, and wants to listen to tunes and dance with his teammates rather than actually practice football. There is no WR on the team who can the take the top off a defense or cause the least bit of concern.

Your answer to all of this is to draft another QB who will then be summarily destroyed due to the problems above not being addressed. It doesn't matter who is calling the signals; if he's running for his life from the snap while looking for a half a$$ed WR to get open he will not succeed.

The Steelers need size and power up the middle on both sides of the ball and raw speed on the outside. THEN it will be time to address the QB position. I can't think of any reason to reach for a Kenny freaking Picket, particularly this year when there is possibly no starting caliber QB in the entire draft. Maybe if he's available in the seventh round. Maybe.

AND!!! To top it all off the guy the Steelers must rely on to do all of this rebuilding is Mike Tomlin. All of the above happened on his watch, but he's going to fix everything. No. I have ZERO confidence in his abilities. This is the guy who personally placed a top of the first round grade on Mason Rudolph! His team can't tackle, block, catch, or cover and many of them would rather dance with their pals than practice two days after losing by 31.

But Tomlin wants to lecture us about accountability. OK, I agree! And that starts at the top. One more chitty performance where the team (win or lose) sleep walks through a game acting like they don't care and the entire coaching staff can pack their gear and get out of Dodge! The desire to check out tunes and dance around starts at the top.
 

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Yeah - kid had a good year and it’s a weak year for QB’s. He will probably go late first round from what I’ve seen.
If I’m an NFL GM, then I steer way clear. He’s the prototype kid who has a good senior year, goes into a weak QB draft and some desperate team reaches to draft whoever the top-rated QB is.

He’s not a first round talent in a normal QB draft. Teams are better off trading draft capital for Wilson or Watson this year. It’s expensive, but you’re getting top drawer, proven talent.
 

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If I’m an NFL GM, then I steer way clear. He’s the prototype kid who has a good senior year, goes into a weak QB draft and some desperate team reaches to draft whoever the top-rated QB is.

He’s not a first round talent in a normal QB draft. Teams are better off trading draft capital for Wilson or Watson this year. It’s expensive, but you’re getting top drawer, proven talent.

Watson? The guy is looking at years in prison and a heavy suspension. I would not touch him at all.

This board said both Lamar and Herbert were going to suck in the pros, so I take it with a grain of salt. I would tae Pickett and/or Willis and have confidence. I don't care who he is playing against 40/6 Td to Int is great.
 
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Watson? The guy is looking at years in prison and a heavy suspension. I would not touch him at all.

This board said both Lamar and Herbert were going to suck in the pros, so I take it with a grain of salt. I would tae Pickett and/or Willis and have confidence. I don't care who he is playing against 40/6 Td to Int is great.
Watson isn’t going to prison, but he may miss half a season due to suspension. But if you’re taking a flyer on a multi-year developmental guy like Pickett, losing Watson for 8-10 games is nothing.
 

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If I’m an NFL GM, then I steer way clear. He’s the prototype kid who has a good senior year, goes into a weak QB draft and some desperate team reaches to draft whoever the top-rated QB is.

He’s not a first round talent in a normal QB draft. Teams are better off trading draft capital for Wilson or Watson this year. It’s expensive, but you’re getting top drawer, proven talent.
Watson May never play another down in the NFL and you can’t take that risk if your a General Manager.
 

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Watson May never play another down in the NFL and you can’t take that risk if your a General Manager.
That’s likely to be sorted out by the draft in April. GMs will know either way and factor it into decisions.

But my point stands, I think. Guys like Rodgers, Wilson, and Watson will be available. It’s an odd year where several proven vets are moving. Even guys like Goff could be intriguing system fits.

Given the option, I suspect most franchises would rather trade two picks for a Wilson then roll the dice on Pickett. Some team will draft him in the first round. I just wouldn’t want to be running that team.
 

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That’s likely to be sorted out by the draft in April. GMs will know either way and factor it into decisions.

But my point stands, I think. Guys like Rodgers, Wilson, and Watson will be available. It’s an odd year where several proven vets are moving. Even guys like Goff could be intriguing system fits.

Given the option, I suspect most franchises would rather trade two picks for a Wilson then roll the dice on Pickett. Some team will draft him in the first round. I just wouldn’t want to be running that team.
You won’t get Wilson for even 2 first round picks and they have too many other needs to do a deal like that .
 

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He's a good college quarterback. I expect him to be drafted.
He’s good, but in terms of breaking Marino’s record, Pickett gets more games per season to play in and now bowl game stats count toward career totals. Marino didn’t get the benefit of either of these in his day.