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I have been battling kidney stones for over a week. Taking FloMax to hopefully pass it. Buggers can be painful.
The next step is the invasive procedure. Any experiences, thoughts, feedback or help? Greatly appreciate it, thanks.
 
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I have been battling kidney stones for over a week. Taking FloMax to hopefully pass it. Buggers can be painful.
The next step is the invasive procedure. Any experiences, thoughts, feedback or help? Greatly appreciate it, thanks.
Had my first bout with them at 29 (I’m 35 now). Not going to sugar got it - worst pain of my life and that’s not close. I needed the procedure where they go up and blast them then pull pieces with a basket. Recovery was miserable. Feels like trying to push out razor blades. And the meds they give you turn it bright orange. And when you gotta go, it’s IMMEDIATE! I would suggest not leaving the house while you are on recovery meds.
The nurses told me when scheduling I could remove the stent myself. I laughed and said, no, no I can’t. Well, when I went to get it out, the elderly nurse had no sympathy, said she’d count to 3 and pull. She counted to 2 and pulled like she was trying to start a locked up chainsaw. Closest I’ve ever come to punching a woman. Absolutely brutal.
Do everything you can to pass without procedure. I wouldn’t wish stones upon an Ohio State fan. Just a Notre Lame fan!
Best of luck!
 
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Had my first bout with them at 29 (I’m 35 now). Not going to sugar got it - worst pain of my life and that’s not close. I needed the procedure where they go up and blast them then pull pieces with a basket. Recovery was miserable. Fees like trying to push out razor blades. And the meds they give you turn it bright orange. And when you gotta go, it’s IMMEDIATE! I would suggest not leaving the house while you are on recovery meds.
The nurses told me when scheduling I could remove the stent myself. I laughed and said, no, no I can’t. Well, when I went to get it out, the elderly nurse had no sympathy, said she’d count to 3 and pull. She counted to 2 and pulled like she was trying to start a locked up chainsaw. Closest I’ve ever come to punching a woman. Absolutely brutal.
Do everything you can to pass without procedure. I wouldn’t wish stones upon an Ohio State fan. Just a Notre Lame fan!
Best of luck!
I passed a small stone without all the pain that others report but I did end up in the ER and was sick for a week. I had a larger one zapped and was also sick for a week and threw up for the first time in decades. I would describe both experiences as unpleasant and work everyday to stay hydrated so I don’t ever have to go through that again. My wife told me for at least a decade that I should drink more. I hate it when she’s right.
 

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I have been battling kidney stones for over a week. Taking FloMax to hopefully pass it. Buggers can be painful.
The next step is the invasive procedure. Any experiences, thoughts, feedback or help? Greatly appreciate it, thanks.
I empathize. First attack had no idea what was wrong. Writhing in pain, respiration elevated, was driven to the emergency room. Morphine drip saved the day. X-rays disclosed a kidney stone too large to pass. Agree to a lithotripsy procedure where ultrasound waves are used break the stone into smaller passable pieces. Although I am male, every time I urinated for a week, I thought I was menstruating. I suspect that kind of shock to hard stones in tender tissue like the kidneys results in some tissue damage. That was twenty-four years ago, and I have taken care to hydrate regularly since.

Like the previous poster, a stent was inserted for some period of time. The urologist removing it had difficulty; tug, pull, TUG AND PULL HARDER, seemed it was stuck. A real adventure!

Good luck.
 
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Had my first bout with them at 29 (I’m 35 now). Not going to sugar got it - worst pain of my life and that’s not close. I needed the procedure where they go up and blast them then pull pieces with a basket. Recovery was miserable. Fees like trying to push out razor blades. And the meds they give you turn it bright orange. And when you gotta go, it’s IMMEDIATE! I would suggest not leaving the house while you are on recovery meds.
The nurses told me when scheduling I could remove the stent myself. I laughed and said, no, no I can’t. Well, when I went to get it out, the elderly nurse had no sympathy, said she’d count to 3 and pull. She counted to 2 and pulled like she was trying to start a locked up chainsaw. Closest I’ve ever come to punching a woman. Absolutely brutal.
Do everything you can to pass without procedure. I wouldn’t wish stones upon an Ohio State fan. Just a Notre Lame fan!
Best of luck!
I was having a really nice day, great workout and all, until I read this.
 
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I was having a really nice day, great workout and all, until I read this.
I mean no disrespect to the OP… I am sure kidney stones are painful. But my first thought was Kramer passing his stone in the bathroom at the circus!!! Sorry OP… I hope things work out.
 

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I was having a really nice day, great workout and all, until I read this.
@LionJim drink water, avoid soda and tea. Pray you have good genetics.

The craziest thing is that when the stone is in a certain position, you feel like praying for death. Then, the second the stone shifts, pain free and perfectly fine. You just never know when it’ll happen. I went off and on for 6 months before going to the Dr. The ER doctor told me that kidney stones are as close as a man will ever get to childbirth without drugs. I’d argue it is worse because women who give birth choose to do it again. Nobody asks for kidney stones again.
 

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Had my first bout with them at 29 (I’m 35 now). Not going to sugar got it - worst pain of my life and that’s not close. I needed the procedure where they go up and blast them then pull pieces with a basket. Recovery was miserable. Fees like trying to push out razor blades. And the meds they give you turn it bright orange. And when you gotta go, it’s IMMEDIATE! I would suggest not leaving the house while you are on recovery meds.
The nurses told me when scheduling I could remove the stent myself. I laughed and said, no, no I can’t. Well, when I went to get it out, the elderly nurse had no sympathy, said she’d count to 3 and pull. She counted to 2 and pulled like she was trying to start a locked up chainsaw. Closest I’ve ever come to punching a woman. Absolutely brutal.
Do everything you can to pass without procedure. I wouldn’t wish stones upon an Ohio State fan. Just a Notre Lame fan!
Best of luck!
Thank heavens I have never had one…. But I would wish one on an OSU fan! As well as Surma, Corbutt, Freeh….
 

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Had my first bout with them at 29 (I’m 35 now). Not going to sugar got it - worst pain of my life and that’s not close. I needed the procedure where they go up and blast them then pull pieces with a basket. Recovery was miserable. Fees like trying to push out razor blades. And the meds they give you turn it bright orange. And when you gotta go, it’s IMMEDIATE! I would suggest not leaving the house while you are on recovery meds.
The nurses told me when scheduling I could remove the stent myself. I laughed and said, no, no I can’t. Well, when I went to get it out, the elderly nurse had no sympathy, said she’d count to 3 and pull. She counted to 2 and pulled like she was trying to start a locked up chainsaw. Closest I’ve ever come to punching a woman. Absolutely brutal.
Do everything you can to pass without procedure. I wouldn’t wish stones upon an Ohio State fan. Just a Notre Lame fan!
Best of luck!
That is almost identical to my story. Only differences, I almost passed out when removing the stent.
And, I would still wish it on an ohowihate fan!
Best wishes @JoeLion

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I had two. My first indication of a problem was pink urine. That will get your attention. Went to the doctor and confirmed not UTI, so that was out. Eventually went to the urologist and his immediate diagnosis was kidney stone. Confirmed with MRI. Still had to get scoped (nothing like paying a few thousand dollars for an office visit where I get raped up the urethra…). Also found out via MRI and confirmed via the scope that I have an enlarged prostate. Ugh. Got the Flomax treatment (still taking it, does help a bit to more completely empty the bladder). Finally passed one of the stones (so proud, my wife and I high-fived…it’s the little things that count when you get older). It was about the size of a fat grain of rice. The other is still in there AFAIK. Not causing any problems (knock wood, cross fingers). I only had one morning of mild lower back pain, out doing the weekly food shopping and feeling bad, like I pulled a muscle in my lower back and could not work it out or relieve the pain by adjusting position. Got home and took some pain medication and laid down and the pain receded. I have heard a lot of bad things from other people about the ultrasound procedure to break up stones, probably best to avoid it if there is any chance of passing the stone.

Good luck and best wishes. BTW, do like the Flomax, it's kinda like a poor man's Cialis or Viagra...which is at least a nice benefit. I don't take it every day, usually every other day. Getting old sucks and part of the cost is resigning yourself to getting up in the night.

Oh, yes, and do drink plenty of water. I still don't really drink enough.
 

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I had two. My first indication of a problem was pink urine. That will get your attention. Went to the doctor and confirmed not UTI, so that was out. Eventually went to the urologist and his immediate diagnosis was kidney stone. Confirmed with MRI. Still had to get scoped (nothing like paying a few thousand dollars for an office visit where I get raped up the urethra…). Also found out via MRI and confirmed via the scope that I have an enlarged prostate. Ugh. Got the Flomax treatment (still taking it, does help a bit to more completely empty the bladder). Finally passed one of the stones (so proud, my wife and I high-fived…it’s the little things that count when you get older). It was about the size of a fat grain of rice. The other is still in there AFAIK. Not causing any problems (knock wood, cross fingers). I only had one morning of mild lower back pain, out doing the weekly food shopping and feeling bad, like I pulled a muscle in my lower back and could not work it out or relieve the pain by adjusting position. Got home and took some pain medication and laid down and the pain receded. I have heard a lot of bad things from other people about the ultrasound procedure to break up stones, probably best to avoid it if there is any chance of passing the stone.

Good luck and best wishes. BTW, do like the Flomax, it's kinda like a poor man's Cialis or Viagra...which is at least a nice benefit. I don't take it every day, usually every other day. Getting old sucks and part of the cost is resigning yourself to getting up in the night.

Oh, yes, and do drink plenty of water. I still don't really drink enough.
Boy, that’s one hell of a disturbing post.
 

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I had one the size of a peach pit surgically removed about ten years ago. The worst part was having a tube inserted in my tally wacker for a week to drain blood. Everywhere I went I had to insert the plastic refuse bag in a purse (it was European) and hide the extension draining tube. Believe me it made picking up women really difficult.😜
 
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I hated just reading all your posts. I've passed three. One that looked like some sharp knife/dagger-like weapon a ninja would use. The first time the pain was excruciating and it wasn't from passing the stone. That hurts a lot in itself. This one I was told was likely hung up and pressing on a nerve that caused intense contstant pain in my groin. Couldn't stand, couldn't sit, couldn't find a position where I wasn't in intense pain waiting to be seen at the E.R., meanwhile cops are bringing in criminals and being processed pronto.

For a time I was taking Tums like they were candy for heartburn and not drinking enough fluid. and my stones were calcium based. Coincidence? I have one inside me that I was told is too large to pass but it hasn't moved in years and hasn't grown since I've stopped taking tums. I was told to drink lots of lemonade as the acidity would help prevent the formation of new ones and to obviously drink a lot of fluids.

I asked about the ultrasound procedure to break up the one inside me and he said they would still have to insert a stent and that doesn't sound like fun. Not after reading the previous posts. My urologist suggested to leave it go if it's not causing any problems and it hasn't moved or grown in years. So I asked, what happens when the stone inside me starts to move? My urologist said, "OH, YOU'LL KNOW! Get to an ER right away."
 

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I have been battling kidney stones for over a week. Taking FloMax to hopefully pass it. Buggers can be painful.
The next step is the invasive procedure. Any experiences, thoughts, feedback or help? Greatly appreciate it, thanks.
100% Cranberry juice seemed to help dissolve mine. Good luck !
 
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I have been battling kidney stones for over a week. Taking FloMax to hopefully pass it. Buggers can be painful.
The next step is the invasive procedure. Any experiences, thoughts, feedback or help? Greatly appreciate it, thanks.
I’ve had several and probably all of them were my fault for not hydrating myself enough. They suck. One time I wound up in an emergency room and was given morphine. It helped but not for long. Then I believe I was given something called darvine (???). Bottom line is drink an adequate amount of water - six glasses for me - on a daily basis; that will help keep your uric acid level lower and the stones probably won’t form. My disclaimer is that I am not a doctor, just a former sufferer. I’m also susceptible to gout, which is also very painful. You have to stay away from purines. I can’t eat more than three or four shrimp and beer is held to a minimum of two glasses or bottles, which irritates me but certainly not as much as a gout attack. Wine is a different story; I can drink a bottle without any issues other than that I fall asleep in the middle of good movies. Drink water!
 

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Ready to soon “celebrate” the 30th anniversary of a business trip to Cigna’s Corp Headquarter’s in Philly.

Long story short on day four, Thurs eve, my hotel called for help for me and an ambulance and police officer came to my room. The police officer took me to Hahnemann Hospital…..an exciting overnight stay. Missed Friday’s meetings!

Flew back to Chicago from Newark on Sun, saw a doc back home on Mon and a few days later had surgery in Evanston Hospital.

Been drinking cranberry juice and doing jumping jacks ever since!
 
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I had one the size of a peach pit surgically removed about ten years ago. The worst part was having a tube inserted in my tally wacker for a week to drain blood. Everywhere I went I had to insert the plastic refuse bag in a purse (it was European) and hide the extension draining tube. Believe me it made picking up women really difficult.😜
A peach pit? Aaaarrrggghhhh. Tally wacker … is that British?
 
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Ready to soon “celebrate” the 30th anniversary of a business trip to Cigna’s Corp Headquarter’s in Philly.

Long story short on day four, Thurs eve, my hotel called for help for me and an ambulance and police officer came to my room. The police officer took me to Hahnemann Hospital…..an exciting overnight stay. Missed Friday’s meetings!

Flew back to Chicago from Newark on Sun, saw a doc back home on Mon and a few days later had surgery in Evanston Hospital.

Been drinking cranberry juice and doing jumping jacks ever since!
I tried cranberry juice but it didn’t seem to do anything. What kind do you drink; I might start up again.
 

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2 lithotripsies here. I can tell you for a fact kidney stone pain is up there with birthing contractions pain. I have incorporated more apple cider vinegar into my diet and I no longer drink iced or warm black tea. I drink a ton of water and am thankful that my classroom is across from the faculty bathroom!
 

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I hated just reading all your posts. I've passed three. One that looked like some sharp knife/dagger-like weapon a ninja would use. The first time the pain was excruciating and it wasn't from passing the stone. That hurts a lot in itself. This one I was told was likely hung up and pressing on a nerve that caused intense contstant pain in my groin. Couldn't stand, couldn't sit, couldn't find a position where I wasn't in intense pain waiting to be seen at the E.R., meanwhile cops are bringing in criminals and being processed pronto.

For a time I was taking Tums like they were candy for heartburn and not drinking enough fluid. and my stones were calcium based. Coincidence? I have one inside me that I was told is too large to pass but it hasn't moved in years and hasn't grown since I've stopped taking tums. I was told to drink lots of lemonade as the acidity would help prevent the formation of new ones and to obviously drink a lot of fluids.

I asked about the ultrasound procedure to break up the one inside me and he said they would still have to insert a stent and that doesn't sound like fun. Not after reading the previous posts. My urologist suggested to leave it go if it's not causing any problems and it hasn't moved or grown in years. So I asked, what happens when the stone inside me starts to move? My urologist said, "OH, YOU'LL KNOW! Get to an ER right away."
AVOID THE STENT! Thing is like a silly straw (loops on itself) to hold it in place in the bladder. That has to uncurl when they pull it out. Screw waterbording. Use a stent and bin Laden would’ve been found in about 3 minutes!
 

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I’ve had two. Brutal. First one had me several times with my head over the toilet almost vomiting strictly from the pain. I passed that one at home after a few months. Second one was similar though I don’t remember the nauseous feeling, but that one ended up with me getting a cystoscopy to ensure it wasn’t cancer. An absolutely miserable experience. I passed that one at work.
I feel bad for you, good luck.
 
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Go to a urologist and get a 24 hour urine test. Sometimes the stones are of a certain type where you can take supplements to prevent them from forming. Potassium, citrate, and calcium or sometimes prescribed for the one type of stone.
 

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Had my first bout with them at 29 (I’m 35 now). Not going to sugar got it - worst pain of my life and that’s not close. I needed the procedure where they go up and blast them then pull pieces with a basket. Recovery was miserable. Feels like trying to push out razor blades. And the meds they give you turn it bright orange. And when you gotta go, it’s IMMEDIATE! I would suggest not leaving the house while you are on recovery meds.
The nurses told me when scheduling I could remove the stent myself. I laughed and said, no, no I can’t. Well, when I went to get it out, the elderly nurse had no sympathy, said she’d count to 3 and pull. She counted to 2 and pulled like she was trying to start a locked up chainsaw. Closest I’ve ever come to punching a woman. Absolutely brutal.
Do everything you can to pass without procedure. I wouldn’t wish stones upon an Ohio State fan. Just a Notre Lame fan!
Best of luck!
I second this post. Absolutely accurate. There is no way to convey the pain in writing.
 
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IF your kidney stones are of the most common variety, you can dissolve them--and avoid getting any more--by drinking something acidic on a regular basis. I had two stone "attacks" (one of which resulted in me being taking to the nearby emergency room) before somebody suggested that I start drinking lemonade instead of soda. I know that I had two stones sitting in my kidneys at that moment, but after I started drinking the lemonade, they disappeared--and I've never had a problem since. That's maybe fifteen years.
 

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I had my first one this past spring, a right ureterovessicle junction calculus. Only 1.5 mm, but the worst pain in my life. Worse than the appendicitis I had my sophomore year at Penn State and worse than the post-op pain for which I took no painkillers as I didn’t want an IM injection (fwiw I had a pretty large incision with a surgical drain due to appendiceal perforation). I couldn’t sit or lie still, basically writhing in pain. I can only imagine having a larger stone.

After reviewing my CT scan myself, I was relieved to see I had no other stones in either kidney, so a very low likelihood of a repeat incident, confirmed by my Urologist on the follow-up visit.
 

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Update: Now I have covid and kidney stones. I feel like…..
Oh, God. I caught Covid too, felt like a bad head cold for three or four days. You’ll survive. The kidney stones, I can’t help you.
 
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