Kugel is in the portal
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I know he was frustrating as hell, but I do hate this because 1. you could see the potential, so I had at least a little hope that he would play to that next year; and 2. it doesn't help the perception for our program if everyone jumps ship every single f'ing year, especially high profile players like him.
Pretty sure its clear he's the problem and not mississippi state.
Unless you are suggesting florida looks bad too?
The username made me laugh hysterically
Pulling for the guy all year as well to come out of his funk and never did consistently. Just a glimmer here and there. Disappointing for sure.
Figured he'd like it as well! Might make him less likely to give me the boot!
No, because they are in the Final 4. I think they have recovered just fine. I didn't say I wanted him to marry my daughter, but we were yet another 1 and done, disappointing finish, and seem to be hemorrhaging players at this point. I would prefer a highly talented guy stay and hope we can coach the lethargy out of him... see KeyShawn Murphy from last year.
Are you thinking our basketball program gets more attractive to possible recruits as more and more players (especially higher profile guys) leave? Surely not.
I just hope the bleeding stops soon.
Players leaving is happening everywhere if you haven't noticed.
Of course i don't think it gets more attractive, but our situation is pretty similar to 90% of college basketball as it pertains to transfers.
A guy like Kugel isn't gonna get it (most likely) if he hasn't by now.
College athletics would be more fun if everyone got thrown into a bucket and there was a yearly draft of all players.
Ever wonder why NIL info isn't made public? Because I'm pretty sure that we'd all be sick to find out how much a guy like this got from us to play mediocre to less than mediocre ball for a year
He was frustrating as 17 to watch in some games, but if he was mediocre, what is the rest of the team?
- he was basically tied for 3rd in scoring per game, had the 2nd most steals per game, had the 3rd best shooting % from deep, 5th in rebounds per game, 5th in assist per game.
He was in the top 5 in a bunch of categories on a team that was ranked for most of the season and got an at large invite to the NCAA Tournament.
How is that mediocre play?...it definitely isnt less than mediocre play.
I’ve said it before and it will never happen, but I say they don’t get their name on the back of their jersey until they are in their 2nd year or average more than 15 points a game over the most recent 10 games. Once you get a name you can keep it.
I think the average basketball IQ of the team just went up 10 points. Still below average, but raised dramatically nonetheless.
What was the rest of the team? Aside from Hubbard and Murphy, a disappointment, so I don’t know how comparing Kugel to a bunch of guys that didn’t live up to their star rating or NIL money really tells you anything.
If we now compare Kugel, a guy that was brought in to take offensive pressure off of Hubbard, to the rest of the league, how do things look?
63rd in scoring
67th in 3 pt %
61st is assists
81st in rebounding
He wasn’t brought in to be a role player, and I assure you that his NIL money would reflect that
There was an info-graphic making the rounds early in the tournament showing each team and where their starting 5 played the year before. I think every team except Purdue was at least 2 or 3 /5 portal guys.
Doesn’t matter what his stats are. He just didn’t try hard. Harris/Melendez tried hard, and had a decent attitude. This guy was a waste of talent
I'm so over this portal bull. It's ruined college sports. I don't give a damn who gets in or out. Who cares?
It's not similar to 90%. We are tied with Vanderbilt with the most outbound transfers in the SEC with 7.
I didn't think Murphy was gonna get it last year either.
Oh ok, we're fine then**
Bama has 1.
Arky 3
AU 0
UF 0
UGA 3
UK 1
LSU 5 outbound, but already took one of ours and got an inbound from UConn.
Mizz 1.
I could go on, but that's probably enough.
7 outbound transfers is more than most teams. And even if 7 was 'similar to 90% of other teams', I wouldn't like it.
I'm not upset about everyone who transferred. All I said in my original post was 1. he has talent and 2. I hope the transfers stop.
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That’s one year. Let’s do see who is second and 3rd and 4th this year and how many?
what about last year and year before?
I wonder what those teams have in common. Maybe a really good end to their respective season vs our collapse of a season?