Kyle Dake to the NLWC is official

psykim

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They should auction off just watching the NLWC talent wrestle in practice some day!-NLWC has amazing talent and coaches. Obviously we have rooted against
Kyle as he had title matches against David Taylor, but hard to not admire his talent! Glad that he and David are now at different weight classes. Kyle has won many NCAA (4) and international titles but so far is not an Olympic champ-I am sure he wants to get the gold medal before he retires. Again the NLWC talent level must be incredible f and I am sure it helps the PSU college team which I understand can wrestle against them in practice. Welcome KYLE.
 

My Master

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They should auction off just watching the NLWC talent wrestle in practice some day!-NLWC has amazing talent and coaches. Obviously we have rooted against
Kyle as he had title matches against David Taylor, but hard to not admire his talent! Glad that he and David are now at different weight classes. Kyle has won many NCAA (4) and international titles but so far is not an Olympic champ-I am sure he wants to get the gold medal before he retires. Again the NLWC talent level must be incredible f and I am sure it helps the PSU college team which I understand can wrestle against them in practice. Welcome KYLE.
In folkstyle, Dake made several elite PSU wrestlers his *****.
 

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Outstanding addition. Man if I’m an elite recruit picking PSU is a no brain decision. Not only the best room in the country but in the world.
 

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IIRC- he did anything but create any offense and backed into wins thru riding and the side door.
Right off the top the 2013 NCAA title vs David Taylor comes to mind, which Dake won 5 - 4, in multiple overtimes, on criteria (riding time). It was Dake's fourth consecutive national title in four different weight classes (141, 149, 157, 165) which, I think, remains a unique accomplishment in college wrestling, but was certainly not a dominant win in any sense of the term, any more than was his 2 - 1 overtime win vs Taylor in the 2012 NWCA Classic, where no takedown's were scored by either wrestler. Again a win, but hardly a "b****-slapping performance" on Dake's part.

To see "b**** slapping" defined, you might have a look at Taylor's 22 - 7 takedown-clinic National Championship win vs Brandon Hatchett of Lehigh in March, 2012.
 
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IIRC- he did anything but create any offense and backed into wins thru riding and the side door.
You do realize that effective riding is a very valuable folk style skill set?

He rode our PSU wrestlers like rented mules! TOTALLY DOMINATED Frank the Tank! If FTT was actually a mule, you would have considered shooting him dead to take him out of his misery during that match. It would have been a mercy killing. It was perhaps the most magnificent riding display I had ever seen in a NCAA championship competition.
 
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Right off the top the 2013 NCAA title vs David Taylor comes to mind, which Dake won 5 - 4, in multiple overtimes, on criteria (riding time). It was Dake's fourth consecutive national title in four different weight classes (141, 149, 157, 165) which, I think, remains a unique accomplishment in college wrestling, but was certainly not a dominant win in any sense of the term, any more than was his 2 - 1 overtime win vs Taylor in the 2012 NWCA Classic, where no takedown's were scored by either wrestler. Again a win, but hardly a "b****-slapping performance" on Dake's part.

To see "b**** slapping" defined, you might have a look at Taylor's 22 - 7 takedown-clinic National Championship win vs Brandon Hatchett of Lehigh in March, 2012.
Dake OWNED Taylor in college. That is DOMINANCE. Listen to Dake's comment "I beat him on the mat and rode him like a dog!" Riding wrestlers is not glamorous, but it is an important skill set in folk style. Dake was like a Kung FU Tenth degree Master of riding. Taylor was an elite scoring machine. But Dake's Riding skill won out each time...
 

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Dake OWNED Taylor in college. That is DOMINANCE. Listen to Dake's comment "I beat him on the mat and rode him like a dog!" Riding wrestlers is not glamorous, but it is an important skill set in folk style. Dake was like a Kung FU Tenth degree Master of riding. Taylor was an elite scoring machine. But Dake's Riding skill won out each time...

Uhhh, Ok. If you say so
 

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Dake OWNED Taylor in college. That is DOMINANCE. Listen to Dake's comment "I beat him on the mat and rode him like a dog!" Riding wrestlers is not glamorous, but it is an important skill set in folk style. Dake was like a Kung FU Tenth degree Master of riding. Taylor was an elite scoring machine. But Dake's Riding skill won out each time...

Riding certainly has its place, but my own definition of "dominance" requires scoring more than just the single match point all the riding time in the world will ever earn you. And from the team-scoring perspective, I suspect most coaches would much prefer to see their wrestlers produce the bonus points associated with MD's, TF's and Falls, as opposed to a series of one- or two-point regular decisions driven by heavy-duty riding.

Jason Nolf fits my definition of a truly dominant college wrestler. He certainly could ride when he wanted to, but riding an opponent to death just to keep him down was never his style. He was much more interested in piling up the team points as well, particularly after accumulating 60 seconds of riding time when his strategy would typically morph to aggressively going after repeated takedowns complemented by exposure points, or maybe a pin if he could get one along way. If he were fishing instead of wrestling it might've been called "catch-and-release". But whatever, I would also call it domination -- in a much stronger and more convincing fashion than simply riding an opponent ad infinitum can ever be.
 
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You do realize that effective riding is a very valuable folk style skill set?

He rode our PSU wrestlers like rented mules! TOTALLY DOMINATED Frank the Tank! If FTT was actually a mule, you would have considered shooting him dead to take him out of his misery during that match. It would have been a mercy killing. It was perhaps the most magnificent riding display I had ever seen in a NCAA championship competition.

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