Leaked Audio from Lane-Player Mental Health Lawsuit

[DAWGSANDSAINTS]

I’m probably not going to listen but I will say this - I hate ole miss so I hope this brings them pain, embarrassment, fines and Kiffen fired.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

So y’all hear me out… should the player be treated as an employee?

I feel like the big argument in favor of Kiffin is that the player couldn’t disappear for 2 weeks “in the real world”, but the other side of that is Kiffin cussing and essentially calling the player a рussy wouldn’t fly “in the real world” either.

Is there a man on this board that would take that from their boss without repercussion?

Excuse me sir, but you’re confusing Six Pack with the Real World…

 

[onewoof]

I can't form an opinion on 46 seconds of a lengthy and probably complex story.

Thank you mister paralegal

 

[onewoof]

Now that players are on the payroll, they have legal rights for employment. Ask an HR rep how notifications must be sent and documented. You can't just say hey come meet with the business owner and get yelled at.

This will come down to a doctor's testimony of the depression. If that exists and if the player releases that information.

 

[Dawgg]

Excuse me sir, but you’re confusing Six Pack with the Real World…

“Zoloft schmoloft… Get in there and take being called a рussy to your face like a real man, kid.”

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Now that players are on the payroll, they have legal rights for employment. Ask an HR rep how notifications must be sent and documented. You can't just say hey come meet with the business owner and get yelled at.

This will come down to a doctor's testimony of the depression. If that exists and if the player releases that information.

For what it’s worth, university HR reps already can take into account bias complaints by students towards faculty/staff…

 

[paindonthurt]

What Kiffin should have done was to let a friendly doctor give him a medical redshirt to not be on the football team and honor the scholarship.

Simple as that.

Maybe he was trying to do that but the dip$h1t wouldn’t respond?

 

[patdog]

Now that players are on the payroll, they have legal rights for employment. Ask an HR rep how notifications must be sent and documented. You can't just say hey come meet with the business owner and get yelled at.

This will come down to a doctor's testimony of the depression. If that exists and if the player releases that information.

Players are not on the payroll. They’re independent contractors paid by unaffiliated corporations for NIL services not connected with playing sports. I know that sounds ridiculous. But that is the way it’s set up.

 

[paindonthurt]

So y’all hear me out… should the player be treated as an employee?

I feel like the big argument in favor of Kiffin is that the player couldn’t disappear for 2 weeks “in the real world”, but the other side of that is Kiffin cussing and essentially calling the player a рussy wouldn’t fly “in the real world” either.

Is there a man on this board that would take that from their boss without repercussion?

Kiffin was stupid for saying what he did but the player is still a big ole PY.

And there are a lot of things that happen on a football field/practice that wouldn’t fly in the real world. Same with the military and other occupations.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Maybe he was trying to do that but the dip$h1t wouldn’t respond?

If he really was trying to do that, he wouldn’t have gotten as angry as he was alleged to be…

Kiffin did coach for Saban— he knows about Processing after all…

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Kiffin was stupid for saying what he did but the player is still a big ole PY.

And there are a lot of things that happen on a football field/practics that wouldn’t fly in the real world. Same with the military and other occupations.

I agree but don’t be surprised if what currently happens in college athletics changes— especially when it comes to incidences such as this one where bias can be argued…

 

[paindonthurt]

If he really was trying to do that, he wouldn’t have gotten as angry as he was alleged to be…

Kiffin did coach for Saban— he knows about Processing after all…

It’s extremely plausible that he was trying to sincerely reach out but got frustrated after no response for weeks.

I’ve been there with employees.

Employee: I can’t be here at 9:00 exactly bc I have to drop my kids off every morning.

me: ok let’s schedule you for 9:15 to alleviate that

employee: immediately starts being showing up at 9:20

hey I need more hours
Manager schedules 2 doubles and an additional shift.
Employee: why you got me working so much?

the worst
No call no shows
Then you take them off the schedule and they call wanting to know why they aren’t on it
Then bewildered when you deny their unemployment

 

[L4Dawg]

I hate to say it, but fundamentally Kiffin is right here. Now could he have handled it better, absolutely. THAT may cost him and them.

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

I would like to announce that due to this football season, I will be filing a lawsuit against MSU for cruel and unusual punishment. I will be seeking...

This will end up being a class action law suit.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

Only on this board will people take up for Lane and trash the junction for being a war zone. This place is boomer country.

Only on this board will someone take up for a snowflake loser who couldn't stop banging co-eds to answer a phone for 2 weeks then sue for $40 mil. This whole country is Gen z poison.

 

[Xenomorph]

If you deal with employees you see this on a weekly basis in the <30 workforce. A complete lack of personal responsibility and utter shock when they find out actions have consequences.

 

[Colonel Angus.sixpack]

Do we need better and more access to mental health care in the US? Yep.

Do we need to let the inmates run the asylum in the process of doing that? Nope.

 

[howboutthemdawgs]

the whole staff had training on this, just this offseason.......maybe it was just for the cameras....

https://www.si.com/college/olemiss/football/ole-miss-rebels-football-coaching-staff-gains-mental-health-first-aid-certification

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

If he really was trying to do that, he wouldn’t have gotten as angry as he was alleged to be…

Kiffin did coach for Saban— he knows about Processing after all…

The full article indicates that Kiffin tried to process the kid. First, he tried to get the kid to transfer then when he didn't, he moved him to OL on the scout team. The full audio is also in the article. In the full audio, Lane says something to the effect of "I bet if we hadn't changed your position, you wouldn't be having mental health issues would you?"

I'm not saying Kiffin is wrong, but he definitely handled it wrong. If this were an unlawful termination suit and that conversation took place between a boss/HR Manager and an employee, it'd be a clear win for the person being terminated.

I'll also add that $40MM is a ridiculous ask by the player.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

The full article indicates that Kiffin tried to process the kid. First, he tried to get the kid to transfer then when he didn't, he moved him to OL on the scout team. The full audio is also in the article. In the full audio, Lane says something to the effect of "I bet if we hadn't changed your position, you wouldn't be having mental health issues would you?"

I'm not saying Kiffin is wrong, but he definitely handled it wrong. If this were an unlawful termination suit and that conversation took place between a boss/HR Manager and an employee, it'd be a clear win for the person being terminated.

I'll also add that $40MM is a ridiculous ask by the player.

of COURSE it’s a ridiculous ask.

The question is HOW…

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