Leave the SEC?

[08Tiger]

Let's be clear SC is not leaving the SEC in our life time. Why would they? They are getting oodles of money and constantly on TV. If they go back to the Acc as some suggest, who would want to watch them play somebody like Duke, Wake Forest or Boston College,etc.

I love how you pick the least exciting teams from the conference as your example. It's not exciting playing Vandy, Mississippi St, Arkansas etc either.

If South Carolina played games against Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC, VaTech, it would be exciting and the fans would be jacked up and into it.

 

[Blues man]

I love how you pick the least exciting teams from the conference as your example. It's not exciting playing Vandy, Mississippi St, Arkansas etc either.

If South Carolina played games against Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC, VaTech, it would be exciting and the fans would be jacked up and into it.

Arkansas and Miss ST take their football very seriously and because of that they are exciting to see. I'll give you Vandy as comparable to Duke, Wake etc. Does the bottom half of the acc even care all that much about football? I dont see it. Can't say it shows.

 

[Carolina Doc]

Just a philosophical, hypothetical question: is it more fun for a school like USC to compete in the SEC and remain mediocre or near the bottom and losing more than winning, or to be in a lower tier conference where we are at or near the top and winning many more games per year?

 

[Lurker123]

Arkansas and Miss ST take their football very seriously and because of that they are exciting to see. I'll give you Vandy as comparable to Duke, Wake etc. Does the bottom half of the acc even care all that much about football? I dont see it. Can't say it shows.

I think we got sidetracked. Yes, half the ACC doesn't care nearly as much about football as they should. Yes, half the games would be in almost full stadiums, etc.

But the question, and Doc summed it up well, was if we would rather succeed in a lower division or continue to struggle in a higher division.

There's no need to argue the ACC is worse, it's the premise of the question.

And I admit to being of two minds about it. It would be nice to win several more games a year and be in a bowl every year. But then you'd be in a tallest midget contest.

 

[08Tiger]

Arkansas and Miss ST take their football very seriously and because of that they are exciting to see. I'll give you Vandy as comparable to Duke, Wake etc. Does the bottom half of the acc even care all that much about football? I dont see it. Can't say it show

Outside of the fanbase for those two schools, I think you would be hard-pressed to find many college football fans who consider Arkansas or Miss St exciting.

 

[08Tiger]

I think we got sidetracked. Yes, half the ACC doesn't care nearly as much about football as they should. Yes, half the games would be in almost full stadiums, etc.

But the question, and Doc summed it up well, was if we would rather succeed in a lower division or continue to struggle in a higher division.

There's no need to argue the ACC is worse, it's the premise of the question.

And I admit to being of two minds about it. It would be nice to win several more games a year and be in a bowl every year. But then you'd be in a tallest midget contest.

The point is, with the expanded playoff, more wins could equal an opportunity to win at the highest level, not just make more bowl games. You could make the playoffs and have a chance to win it all. Clemson wasn't the "tallest midget" in 2016 and 2018.

 

[Blues man]

Outside of the fanbase for those two schools, I think you would be hard-pressed to find many college football fans who consider Arkansas or Miss St exciting.

Perhaps. I can only account for myself by saying I have a ton of respect for Arkansas and their history. I found it odd you picked that program to dis. Let's just say I think most Gamecock fans would be happy to have played for what Arkansas has played for in the past.

 

[08Tiger]

Perhaps. I can only account for myself by saying I have a ton of respect for Arkansas and their history. I found it odd you picked that program to dis. Let's just say I think most Gamecock fans would be happy to have played for what Arkansas has played for in the past.

They just strike me as entirely unexciting. I wouldn't be pumped up about playing them regularly

Since I know they haven't had much sustained success recently, I looked up their history. One national championship in 1964 and their 13 conference championships were all in the southwest conference, the last in 1989.

I think they would benefit from changing conferences too.

 

[Blues man]

They just strike me as entirely unexciting. I wouldn't be pumped up about playing them regularly

Since I know they haven't had much sustained success recently, I looked up their history. One national championship in 1964 and their 13 conference championships were all in the southwest conference, the last in 1989.

I think they would benefit from changing conferences too.

Yeah but the did play in several national championship games. Not a lot of schools can say that. There was a time I thought of them as in the same light as Nebraska and Oklahoma... although time changes. Still an impressive history in comparison to most.

 

[08Tiger]

Yeah but the did play in several national championship games. Not a lot of schools can say that. There was a time I thought of them as in the same light as Nebraska and Oklahoma... although time changes. Still an impressive history in comparison to most.

Good point. I might be too much of a young'n....

Although I'm a Clemson grad and fan, I grew up in Gamecock country and the first college game I ever went to was a 24-23 Gamecock win over Tennessee in 1992. That's where my cfb memories begin.