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Poultrygeist

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I know, a sports forum is not the best place to get legal advice, but I really don’t know what type of lawyer could help with this so just seeking some direction on where to start.
Long story short. My father-in-law has a mobile home on a two acre lot that he owns. He sold the mobile home only to a guy. The guy has made excuse after excuse why he has not moved it yet. He doesn’t want his money back or anything, but he just will not move it. I told him we were going to start charging him lot rent, but I don’t know if we can actually do that. I don’t think he can leave it there forever but I don’t know what we can legally do to make him move it. It has been almost a year since he paid my father-in-law. Any thoughts?
 
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I know, a sports forum is not the best place to get legal advice, but I really don’t know what type of lawyer could help with this so just seeking some direction on where to start.
Long story short. My father-in-law has a mobile home on a two acre lot that he owns. He sold the mobile home only to a guy. The guy has made excuse after excuse why he has not moved it yet. He doesn’t want his money back or anything, but he just will not move it. I told him we were going to start charging him lot rent, but I don’t know if we can actually do that. I don’t think he can leave it there forever but I don’t know what we can legally do to make him move it. It has been almost a year since he paid my father-in-law. Any thoughts?
Charge him storage per day. Make up some ridiculous amount and after failed payments take over the asset and re-sale it.
 

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Sounds like abandoned property. What are the laws in your area? You need to provide notice, etc.
 
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Well, if it's on your property, I think you have a lot of options.

I'd start with the cheapest option by calling the police (unless you already have). They may very well just force him to have it hauled off. Someone can't just leave something on your property.
 
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If you've already gone the police route and haven't had luck, I'd probably just send the guy a notice that if he doesn't move the trailer by such and such date, it will be treated as unclaimed property and he waives ownership rights. Then you can sell it again. Is that legal? I dunno. Is he gonna go through the expense of hiring a lawyer over it? Probably not. But it might put enough of a scare into him to just come move it.
 

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I know, a sports forum is not the best place to get legal advice, but I really don’t know what type of lawyer could help with this so just seeking some direction on where to start.
Long story short. My father-in-law has a mobile home on a two acre lot that he owns. He sold the mobile home only to a guy. The guy has made excuse after excuse why he has not moved it yet. He doesn’t want his money back or anything, but he just will not move it. I told him we were going to start charging him lot rent, but I don’t know if we can actually do that. I don’t think he can leave it there forever but I don’t know what we can legally do to make him move it. It has been almost a year since he paid my father-in-law. Any thoughts?
When he sold the mobile home to the guy, what did the contract say about moving it? Did he convey the mobile home by executing a SC certificate of title (like a vehicle), or was the certificate of title lost years ago, or had somebody actually gone through the legal process of de-titling the mobile home so that it would be considered real estate under SC law? Is the county currently taxing the mobile home separately from the real estate? It's been a while since I practiced real estate law in SC, but I remember that mobile homes were always a pain the butt. Moving them off property can be a lot more difficult than it sounds without the vehicle title (if it's still characterized as a vehicle). Call a real estate attorney and tell him you have a mobile home problem. If he doesn't hang up on you right then, you're half way to a resolution.
 
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Has this been de-tilted? If not he owns the m.h. only AND has no right to have it sit on your property. If it has been de-tilted you may have sold the mh and lot.
CALL YOUR LOCAL COUNTY TAX OFFICE. THEY CAN TELL YOU.

If not de-tilted, Send him a monthly invoice for lot rent at $300 - $800 per month.

You might also consult with a local mobile home dealer OR MAGISTRATE for guidance.

A lawyer will probably cost more than what you sold the mh for.

THE ABOVE IS JUST OPINION/SUGGESTIONS AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A LEGAL ADVISE.
 
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Has this been de-tilted? If not he owns the m.h. only AND has no right to have it sit on your property. If it has been de-tilted you may have sold the mh and lot.
CALL YOUR LOCAL COUNTY TAX OFFICE. THEY CAN TELL YOU.

If not de-tilted, Send him a monthly invoice for lot rent at $300 - $800 per month.

You might also consult with a local mobile home dealer OR MAGISTRATE for guidance.

A lawyer will probably cost more than what you sold the mh for.

THE ABOVE IS JUST OPINION/SUGGESTIONS AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A LEGAL ADVISE.
We did get a title for it and gave it to him and he said he has put it in his name. He says he has already got the permits to move it but he keeps putting the delay on the mover.
 
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Has this been de-tilted? If not he owns the m.h. only AND has no right to have it sit on your property. If it has been de-tilted you may have sold the mh and lot.
CALL YOUR LOCAL COUNTY TAX OFFICE. THEY CAN TELL YOU.

If not de-tilted, Send him a monthly invoice for lot rent at $300 - $800 per month.

You might also consult with a local mobile home dealer OR MAGISTRATE for guidance.

A lawyer will probably cost more than what you sold the mh for.

THE ABOVE IS JUST OPINION/SUGGESTIONS AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A LEGAL ADVISE.
We did get a title for it and gave it to him. He needed it to get the permits to move the home. He keeps putting us off blaming it in the mover.
 
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When he sold the mobile home to the guy, what did the contract say about moving it? Did he convey the mobile home by executing a SC certificate of title (like a vehicle), or was the certificate of title lost years ago, or had somebody actually gone through the legal process of de-titling the mobile home so that it would be considered real estate under SC law? Is the county currently taxing the mobile home separately from the real estate? It's been a while since I practiced real estate law in SC, but I remember that mobile homes were always a pain the butt. Moving them off property can be a lot more difficult than it sounds without the vehicle title (if it's still characterized as a vehicle). Call a real estate attorney and tell him you have a mobile home problem. If he doesn't hang up on you right then, you're half way to a resolution.
We got a title for it and gave it to him. He said he had to have the title in his name so that he could get the permits to move it. He said he has the permits, but he keeps blaming the delay on the mover.
 

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Thank you. We never put any stipulations in place. It was a handshake deal. We did make up a bill of sale we got from the DMV. We attained a title and signed it over to him. He said he had it out in his name. He said he had to before he could get the moving permits. He said he has the permits, but he keeps blaming the delay on the moving company.
 
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When he sold the mobile home to the guy, what did the contract say about moving it? Did he convey the mobile home by executing a SC certificate of title (like a vehicle), or was the certificate of title lost years ago, or had somebody actually gone through the legal process of de-titling the mobile home so that it would be considered real estate under SC law? Is the county currently taxing the mobile home separately from the real estate? It's been a while since I practiced real estate law in SC, but I remember that mobile homes were always a pain the butt. Moving them off property can be a lot more difficult than it sounds without the vehicle title (if it's still characterized as a vehicle). Call a real estate attorney and tell him you have a mobile home problem. If he doesn't hang up on you right then, you're half way to a resolution.
We were able to attain a title. Not sure how it will be taxed. We made up a bill of sale and signed over the title. He said he had it put in his name at the DMV. He said he had to have it in his name to get the moving permits, which he says he now has. He keeps blaming the moving company.
 

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I know, a sports forum is not the best place to get legal advice, but I really don’t know what type of lawyer could help with this so just seeking some direction on where to start.
Long story short. My father-in-law has a mobile home on a two acre lot that he owns. He sold the mobile home only to a guy. The guy has made excuse after excuse why he has not moved it yet. He doesn’t want his money back or anything, but he just will not move it. I told him we were going to start charging him lot rent, but I don’t know if we can actually do that. I don’t think he can leave it there forever but I don’t know what we can legally do to make him move it. It has been almost a year since he paid my father-in-law. Any thoughts?
Just set it ablaze.
 

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Just set it ablaze.
Knowing the way things work, then he’d probably sue you, because it burned on *your* property, and he’d win. 🤪
I had a title situation with a sold car last month. Wouldn’t it be nice if people just did what they were supposed to do, and what they said they’re going to do?!? Sigh………. Good luck to you!
 
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I know, a sports forum is not the best place to get legal advice, but I really don’t know what type of lawyer could help with this so just seeking some direction on where to start.
Long story short. My father-in-law has a mobile home on a two acre lot that he owns. He sold the mobile home only to a guy. The guy has made excuse after excuse why he has not moved it yet. He doesn’t want his money back or anything, but he just will not move it. I told him we were going to start charging him lot rent, but I don’t know if we can actually do that. I don’t think he can leave it there forever but I don’t know what we can legally do to make him move it. It has been almost a year since he paid my father-in-law. Any thoughts?
You can have a professional moving company to move it and then charge him the fee for having it moved.
 

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This is from Louisiana but a very similar situation:

Question: I have an elderly family member who owns the property they live on. A few years ago they allowed their son and daughter in-law to move a fifth wheel camper onto their property because they had nowhere else to put it. Shortly afterward, their son and daughter-in-law divorced. The camper, which is titled in the ex-daughter-in-law's name still sits on their property. They don't want it and would like to have it removed. The ex-daughter-in-law is has made no attempts to remove it and claims she can no longer find the title. Can you please tell me the landowner's rights in this case?

There a few different options. The best one depends upon the particular facts and circumstances. Generally, the best way to handle this situation is for the land owner to take the position of a landlord and to treat the abandoned trailer as the abandoned property of a tenant. When a landlord is planning to dispose of property left behind by a tenant, the landlord is required you to give notice to the tenant. The landlord will also have to follow very specific rules about handling the property after the notice period has expired. The notice must typically give the tenant a set amount of time to reclaim the property, after which you can take specific steps. The notice should include the following information: 1) A detailed description of the property left behind. It's a good idea to have an objective person witness the inventory of the abandoned property to protect the landlord against charges that he/she has taken or destroyed any of the property. The landowner might consider photographing or videotaping the property. 2) The estimated value of the abandoned property. Here, the landowner is asked to guess what he/she could get for it at a well-attended flea market or garage sale. 3) Where the property may be claimed. Provide the address of the rental premises or an outside storage place. The deadline for the tenant to reclaim property, such as seven or ten days. 4) What will happen if property is not reclaimed. Mail the notice "return receipt requested" so you will have proof the tenant received it. If the ex-tenant doesn't contact you within the time specified in the notice, you are pretty much free to do with the property whatever you want - that is, you may throw the property out, sell it, or donate it (subject to acquiring a lost title through the OMV). You may also be able to use the property to satisfy unpaid rent or damages. You may be able to charge the tenant the prorated daily rental value for keeping the property on your premises or any out-of-pocket costs you incur for storing the property. (See Louisiana Civil Code Art §§ 2707 and Louisiana Code of Civil Procedure Art. 4705).

 

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This is from Louisiana but a very similar situation:

Question: I have an elderly family member who owns the property they live on. A few years ago they allowed their son and daughter in-law to move a fifth wheel camper onto their property because they had nowhere else to put it. Shortly afterward, their son and daughter-in-law divorced. The camper, which is titled in the ex-daughter-in-law's name still sits on their property. They don't want it and would like to have it removed. The ex-daughter-in-law is has made no attempts to remove it and claims she can no longer find the title. Can you please tell me the landowner's rights in this case?

There a few different options. The best one depends upon the particular facts and circumstances. Generally, the best way to handle this situation is for the land owner to take the position of a landlord and to treat the abandoned trailer as the abandoned property of a tenant. When a landlord is planning to dispose of property left behind by a tenant, the landlord is required you to give notice to the tenant. The landlord will also have to follow very specific rules about handling the property after the notice period has expired. The notice must typically give the tenant a set amount of time to reclaim the property, after which you can take specific steps. The notice should include the following information: 1) A detailed description of the property left behind. It's a good idea to have an objective person witness the inventory of the abandoned property to protect the landlord against charges that he/she has taken or destroyed any of the property. The landowner might consider photographing or videotaping the property. 2) The estimated value of the abandoned property. Here, the landowner is asked to guess what he/she could get for it at a well-attended flea market or garage sale. 3) Where the property may be claimed. Provide the address of the rental premises or an outside storage place. The deadline for the tenant to reclaim property, such as seven or ten days. 4) What will happen if property is not reclaimed. Mail the notice "return receipt requested" so you will have proof the tenant received it. If the ex-tenant doesn't contact you within the time specified in the notice, you are pretty much free to do with the property whatever you want - that is, you may throw the property out, sell it, or donate it (subject to acquiring a lost title through the OMV). You may also be able to use the property to satisfy unpaid rent or damages. You may be able to charge the tenant the prorated daily rental value for keeping the property on your premises or any out-of-pocket costs you incur for storing the property. (See Louisiana Civil Code Art §§ 2707 and Louisiana Code of Civil Procedure Art. 4705).

Thank you very much for that info.
 

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If you got a title from DMV, then it hasn't been de-titled. During that process DMV is notified and the title retired. There would be no title for them to give you. Send hm a certified letter (return receipt requested) and inform hm he has x number of days to remove the MH or $X storage dollars per day will apply. If he does not pay up. Go to the local magistrate for relief.
 

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If you got a title from DMV, then it hasn't been de-titled. During that process DMV is notified and the title retired. There would be no title for them to give you. Send hm a certified letter (return receipt requested) and inform hm he has x number of days to remove the MH or $X storage dollars per day will apply. If he does not pay up. Go to the local magistrate for relief.
Thanks. That is what we are going to do. I appreciate all the advice that has been given.
 
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