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Update on Lawsuit:

https://barryfenchak.com/update-january-20-2025-penn-state-withdraws-preliminary-objections/

Last Thursday, January 16th, we had a hearing in Centre County Court to hear preliminary objections in our lawsuit against the Board of Trustees. Preliminary objections are essentially claims Penn State made asking the Judge to dismiss our suit. They had filed two sets of preliminary objections that made meritless claims (meaning they had no basis in law) including an argument that since I was the only trustee out of thirty-six who was asking for financial information, I was insignificant and my request for information could be ignored. The law requires that requests from any trustee be accommodated, not that all trustees must be engaged or care.

I suppose they realized they couldn’t substantiate these claims because as soon as we were before the judge, Penn State announced they were dropping their preliminary objections.

While we are happy to be able to proceed with our case, Penn State significantly delayed our lawsuit and cost us time and money. A cynic might believe their intent is to ‘bleed me dry’, and resource-wise this is a David versus Goliath situation, but they also wasted the court’s time as well.

It was still a productive session; with Judge Marshall’s permission, we were able to make arguments on an additional motion Penn State filed just last week to compel me to sign a so-called ‘Confidentiality Agreement’ regarding the information I have requested. We are grateful that Judge Marshall allowed us to expedite the process as opposed to delaying things further.

The proposed document, in our analysis, is far less a confidentiality agreement (which we are amenable to negotiating) than a gag order that would make any access to the information I seek to be of little utility. In addition to being in violation of state law, the stipulations proposed by Penn State would prevent me from engaging other trustees in any meaningful and substantive manner. Such engagement is, of course, our fiduciary duty and fundamental to responsible governance.

Judge Marshall has not indicated when he will rule on Penn State’s motion to compel me to sign the agreement, but I will keep you posted.

Support for our legal fight
Our case is moving along at a good pace, and our team of lawyers has been diligent and effective. We are 82% of the way to our goal of raising $20,000 for legal expenses on GoFundMe. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-penn-state-trustee-barry-fenchaks-legal-fund If you have already donated, thank you. If you have the means to do so and want to see Penn State back in the hands of trustees who understand legal university governance, your donation will go to a very good cause. Whether or not you have the means to contribute personally, please help us spread the word and forward the GoFundMe information to all the Penn Staters in your circle.
 

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Update on Lawsuit:

https://barryfenchak.com/update-january-20-2025-penn-state-withdraws-preliminary-objections/

Last Thursday, January 16th, we had a hearing in Centre County Court to hear preliminary objections in our lawsuit against the Board of Trustees. Preliminary objections are essentially claims Penn State made asking the Judge to dismiss our suit. They had filed two sets of preliminary objections that made meritless claims (meaning they had no basis in law) including an argument that since I was the only trustee out of thirty-six who was asking for financial information, I was insignificant and my request for information could be ignored. The law requires that requests from any trustee be accommodated, not that all trustees must be engaged or care.

I suppose they realized they couldn’t substantiate these claims because as soon as we were before the judge, Penn State announced they were dropping their preliminary objections.

While we are happy to be able to proceed with our case, Penn State significantly delayed our lawsuit and cost us time and money. A cynic might believe their intent is to ‘bleed me dry’, and resource-wise this is a David versus Goliath situation, but they also wasted the court’s time as well.

It was still a productive session; with Judge Marshall’s permission, we were able to make arguments on an additional motion Penn State filed just last week to compel me to sign a so-called ‘Confidentiality Agreement’ regarding the information I have requested. We are grateful that Judge Marshall allowed us to expedite the process as opposed to delaying things further.

The proposed document, in our analysis, is far less a confidentiality agreement (which we are amenable to negotiating) than a gag order that would make any access to the information I seek to be of little utility. In addition to being in violation of state law, the stipulations proposed by Penn State would prevent me from engaging other trustees in any meaningful and substantive manner. Such engagement is, of course, our fiduciary duty and fundamental to responsible governance.

Judge Marshall has not indicated when he will rule on Penn State’s motion to compel me to sign the agreement, but I will keep you posted.

Support for our legal fight
Our case is moving along at a good pace, and our team of lawyers has been diligent and effective. We are 82% of the way to our goal of raising $20,000 for legal expenses on GoFundMe. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-penn-state-trustee-barry-fenchaks-legal-fund If you have already donated, thank you. If you have the means to do so and want to see Penn State back in the hands of trustees who understand legal university governance, your donation will go to a very good cause. Whether or not you have the means to contribute personally, please help us spread the word and forward the GoFundMe information to all the Penn Staters in your
Never forget this is the same cabal that threw Joe under the bus and keep extending Franklin for beating Delaware, Villanova, and SMU….at home.
 

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Now I get Mac....he's just a sour Joe guy. LOL....too funny.
Not really funny…just accurate.

Since Joe was grotesquely and unfairly separated from the University (except his family’s generous donations), have things gotten better or worse for Penn State?

Academic standing? Tuition? Athletics?

Simple answer: All have gotten significantly worse.
 

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Not really funny…just accurate.

Since Joe was grotesquely and unfairly separated from the University (except his family’s generous donations), have things gotten better or worse for Penn State?

Academic standing? Tuition? Athletics?

Simple answer: All have gotten significantly worse.
Joe and others were treated unfairly. No argument there at all. He also stopped progressing the football program in his last 10+ years. Two things can be true.
 
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Not really funny…just accurate.

Since Joe was grotesquely and unfairly separated from the University (except his family’s generous donations), have things gotten better or worse for Penn State?

Academic standing? Tuition? Athletics?

Simple answer: All have gotten significantly worse.
Not to mention law suits against PSU BOT they have lost.
 
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2005 was 6 years...2008 was 3 years...PSU was 8-1 the day Joe was fired!
2005 was during the 9 straight losses to Michigan and 2008 was the nearly annual loss to Iowa. The 2011 8-1 team was the most underwhelming 8-1 team. Wins included Indiana St, Temple, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, Purdue, Northwestern and Illinois. People here criticize Franklin for winning games like this, but for some reason, Joe gets credit for them? Why? Win 409 was an uninspiring 10-7 win over Illinois at home on a late FG. They lost at home to Alabama in a game that they started the game with, if I remember correctly, using 2 or 3 timeouts in the first drive on offense which made them look completely unprepared and incompetent. Look, again, Joe was great, but can we stop acting like he won all the time? It is just not true. He had 2 good seasons in his last 11 and several were complete disasters. Also, for the last few years of his tenure, the B1G was down. The SEC was winning everything. Urban was at Florida and LSU was good. Ohio State was getting beat in bowl games against the SEC and the B1G was looked at as an afterthought. There’s a lot more context to those records you posted than just the records themselves.
 
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2005 was during the 9 straight years of losing to Michigan and 2008 was the nearly annual loss to Iowa. The 2011 8-1 team was the most underwhelming 8-1 team. Wins included Indiana St, Temple, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, Purdue, Northwestern and Illinois. People here criticize Franklin for winning games like this, but for some reason, Joe gets credit for them? Why? Win 409 was an uninspiring 10-7 win over Illinois at home. They lost at home to Alabama in a game that they started the game with, if I remember correctly, using 2 or 3 timeouts in the first drive on offense which made them look completely unprepared and incompetent. Look, again, Joe was great, but can we stop acting like he won all the time? It is just not true. He had 2 good seasons in his last 11 and several were complete disasters. Also, for the last few years of his tenure, the B1G was down. The SEC was winning everything. Urban was at Florida and LSU was good. Ohio State was getting beat in bowl games against the SEC and the B1G was looked at as an afterthought.

Without beating a very dead horse Paterno’s teams overachieved relative to recruiting ranking in terms of wins - Franklin’s are sort of ‘beat teams with less talent, lose the others.’ With the exception of ND, held true this year too. Paterno still managed a couple B1G Championships with classes ranked in the 20’s and 30’s.
 
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Without beating a very dead horse Paterno’s teams overachieved relative to recruiting ranking in terms of wins - Franklin’s are sort of ‘beat teams with less talent, lose the others.’ With the exception of ND, held true this year too. Paterno still managed a couple B1G Championships with classes ranked in the 20’s and 30’s.
I’m sorry, but I disagree. Losing to Iowa most years wasn’t overachieving. Losing 9 straight games to Michigan wasn’t overachieving. Why do you think those recruiting classes were ranked lower? Why was it so hard to recruit to Penn State during that time? So, what does that make the early 2000’s results then? Weren’t the supposedly “high rated” recruiting classes? Those teams were a disaster. Paterno had 2 B1G Championships in the last 11 years. Franklin is 1-1 in his first 11 years in B1G title games. The 2016 team certainly didn’t have the recruiting rankings of the higher teams then. It isn’t that different.
 
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I’m sorry, but I disagree. Losing to Iowa most years wasn’t overachieving. Losing 9 straight games to Michigan wasn’t overachieving. Why do you think those recruiting classes were ranked lower? Why was it so hard to recruit to Penn State during that time? So, what does that make the early 2000’s results then? Weren’t the supposedly “high rated” recruiting classes? Those teams were a disaster. Paterno had 2 B1G Championships in the last 11 years. Franklin is 1-1 in his first 11 years in B1G title games. The 2016 team certainly didn’t have the recruiting rankings of the higher teams then. It isn’t that different.

It’s pretty different - one class in the 00’s had 11 recruits. Total. Program was a disaster. Head coach never left State College. The comparison is pointless but recall recruits like Jordan Steffy turning down PSU for Maryland.
 

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It’s pretty different - one class in the 00’s had 11 recruits. Total. Program was a disaster. Head coach never left State College. The comparison is pointless but recall recruits like Jordan Steffy turning down PSU for Maryland.
So we are giving Joe extra credit points for overachieving because of subpar recruiting that he was responsible for? Seems odd
 
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It’s pretty different - one class in the 00’s had 11 recruits. Total. Program was a disaster. Head coach never left State College. The comparison is pointless but recall recruits like Jordan Steffy turning down PSU for Maryland.
Look at 2004-2006 classes.
 

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I’m sorry, but I disagree. Losing to Iowa most years wasn’t overachieving. Losing 9 straight games to Michigan wasn’t overachieving. Why do you think those recruiting classes were ranked lower? Why was it so hard to recruit to Penn State during that time? So, what does that make the early 2000’s results then? Weren’t the supposedly “high rated” recruiting classes? Those teams were a disaster. Paterno had 2 B1G Championships in the last 11 years. Franklin is 1-1 in his first 11 years in B1G title games. The 2016 team certainly didn’t have the recruiting rankings of the higher teams then. It isn’t that different.
Well for one PSU let the rest of the SEC and tOSU in particular jump out in front in the facilities race during his last 15 years...not to mention the NIL pay for play was well in place at tOSU and most of the SEC back then. There is no perfect coach, but some people who love Joe just cannot let things go for whatever reason. They were the anchor holding things down for a few years and are the same people OB talked about on his way out.

JF had to fight for coaching, recruiting, and facility budgets while some still fought him along the way. Granted there has to be checks and balances, but the folks who crap on this current HC the most about tOSU and UM are typically the ones that cry about the state of the game or ones that think NIL is on par with tOSU. Basically PSU has to just move forward leaving those folks behind to sulk....still work to to do though.
 
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It’s pretty different - one class in the 00’s had 11 recruits. Total. Program was a disaster. Head coach never left State College. The comparison is pointless but recall recruits like Jordan Steffy turning down PSU for Maryland.
Program was a disaster and the HC never left State College? Whose responsibility is that?
 

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Well for one PSU let the rest of the SEC and tOSU in particular jump out in front in the facilities race during his last 15 years...not to mention the NIL pay for play was well in place at tOSU and most of the SEC back then. There is no perfect coach, but some people who love Joe just cannot let things go for whatever reason. They were the anchor holding things down for a few years and are the same people OB talked about on his way out.

JF had to fight for coaching, recruiting, and facility budgets while some still fought him along the way. Granted there has to be checks and balances, but the folks who crap on this current HC the most about tOSU and UM are typically the ones that cry about the state of the game or ones that think NIL is on par with tOSU. Basically PSU has to just move forward leaving those folks behind to sulk....still work to to do though.
Well said. I was never a part of the "joe must go" crowd, because I felt that he had done so much not just for the football program but for PSU as a whole that he deserved to go out on his own terms.

But he did himself and the program no favors by staying a decade or more too long.
 

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Well said. I was never a part of the "joe must go" crowd, because I felt that he had done so much not just for the football program but for PSU as a whole that he deserved to go out on his own terms.

But he did himself and the program no favors by staying a decade or more too long.
Agree. I, erroneously, thought he would know when it was time.
 
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