Let's talk about Lebby's preseason quote...

dawgstudent

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he said in the preseason "I just want Mississippi State fans to feel like they’ve got the right guy at the end of the season.”

So do we have the right guy? I honestly can't answer it regardless of what happens Friday. I do know I can give a definitive answer of "No" by Monday. It's if he keeps Hutzler. That means he's not willing to make the tough decision for the betterment of Mississippi State football.
 

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It’s at best a big “I don’t know”. And anyone who thinks it’s a definitive no has a lot of ammo in their corner.
 

57stratdawg

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TBD. We’ve got the right offensive system.

We could have nick saban and bill belichick on our staff and still gone 4-8 this year though.
 

Bullldawg78

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No. A good coach doesn't go 2-10 and the team not even competitive by the end of his first year. If he keeps Hutzler, he may get fired next year

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100% true statement, we have 8 sacks this season the closest team to us is Alabama with 22, there are something like 6 players in the SEC who individually have more sacks than us. Coaches coach up players, I've seen none of that from Putzler and if he is then we are so deep in trouble from a personnel standpoint there is no hope!
 
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I don't see it. As civildawg said, a good coach doesn't go 2-10 in their first season. 5-7, maybe. 6-6, perhaps. But not 2-10.
 

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I'm willing to continue on, but if we stay as is on Defense, I have serious doubts.
Lebby's future is in his own hands is my opinion.
JMO.
 

patdog

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No. You can tell pretty quickly if a coach has it or not. Jackie, it was obvious immediately he had it. Croom, lost to Maine, enough said. Mullen, it was obvious immediately he had it. Moorhead, somewhat indeterminate, but he underperformed with a loaded team. Leach, we knew what we had but LSU game enough said. Arnett, obviously in over his head. Lebby, obviously in over his head.
 

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I don't see it. As civildawg said, a good coach doesn't go 2-10 in their first season. 5-7, maybe. 6-6, perhaps. But not 2-10.
And is not competitive at all. I mean every game has been a total blowout save our two wins over the powerhouses EKU and UMass.
 
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ETK99

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He gets a chance to make changes to fix things because he chose these fools on that defensive side. They stay, he sucks!
 

dawgman42

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I've been massively underwhelmed. I don't have much confidence that he can right the pirate ship, but he should get another year.

Defense needs to be douched, though.
 

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he said in the preseason "I just want Mississippi State fans to feel like they’ve got the right guy at the end of the season.”

So do we have the right guy? I honestly can't answer it regardless of what happens Friday. I do know I can give a definitive answer of "No" by Monday. It's if he keeps Hutzler. That means he's not willing to make the tough decision for the betterment of Mississippi State football.
We don’t! Mullen should have been our guy. Bring back Mullen, and you immediately get the fan base re energized.
 

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We play the same 8 conference teams, Arizona state, UNI, USM and alcorn next year. I don’t see but 3 wins at most and I don’t see us winning a conference game. Lebby is staring at 0-16 in conference play his 1st 2 years. He won’t survive that.
 

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The fact he even hired Hutzler in the first place is an indictment against him. Never been a DC before, wouldn’t join the team immediately. But he was one of his best friends so he did it. Then it starts to look like he’s more concerned with employing his friends than getting results. Also I don’t think he can hold him accountable with them being so close. Can he get him in a room alone and say “This defense you’re running sucks, I know the talent isn’t there but the scheme is horrible, the worst I’ve ever seen. If it doesn’t change you’re gone”. I don’t think he can.
 

aTotal360

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Uhhhh no. He somehow managed to underperform my standard, rock-bottom expectations that I have for MSU athletics.
 

ZombieKissinger

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The things that make me feel negatively toward him are Toledo, Arkansas, lack of recruiting/talent influx, and Hutzler/that friendship
 

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We play the same 8 conference teams, Arizona state, UNI, USM and alcorn next year. I don’t see but 3 wins at most and I don’t see us winning a conference game. Lebby is staring at 0-16 in conference play his 1st 2 years. He won’t survive that.
Northern Illinois was dropped, that would have been another MAC nightmare
 

patdog

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The fact he even hired Hutzler in the first place is an indictment against him. Never been a DC before, wouldn’t join the team immediately. But he was one of his best friends so he did it. Then it starts to look like he’s more concerned with employing his friends than getting results. Also I don’t think he can hold him accountable with them being so close. Can he get him in a room alone and say “This defense you’re running sucks, I know the talent isn’t there but the scheme is horrible, the worst I’ve ever seen. If it doesn’t change you’re gone”. I don’t think he can.
That was an immediate huge red flag for me. One look at his resume and it was obvious. You just don’t make that hire. Special teams coach, sure. Position coach, ok. But not as your freaking defensive coordinator.
 
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85Bears

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Probably what’s going to happen here is Lebby is not going to work out, a veteran coach will be hired to steady the ship to 5-7/6-6 and there is going to be a few more bad seasons in between.
 
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Dawg1976

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Problem is…. What decent DC will be willing to go to a 2-10 team to coach under an unproven HC?
 
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