Liberty would’ve made the 12 team playoff
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Oregon smoked a lot of P5 teams with P5 recruited talent this season.
They didn't smoke anyone with a winning record. Liberty is a 13-0 team, getting their butts handed to them like a 3-win P5 team.
And Liberty is a lower tier FBS program with non-P5 recruited talent. Give me a class 4 or 5 A high school team to go against a Private high school team and, I will give you the same results.
Which is exactly why they wouldn't belong in the playoff.
That I agree with. Did someone do a mock 12-team playoff had it started this year and put them in it? If so, I did not see it. If so, that would have given me a good laugh. Hopefully, when non-conference champs are selected, the committee will look at schedule, injuries, etc. The fact that FSU was excluded from the playoffs this year, gives me hope that the selection committee will use objective and common sense.
In the current 12-team format, they would have been matched up with FSU in the first round.
How in the would they justify putting them over say Missouri or Ole Miss? I am going by memory here..too lazy to look it up... believe they are 23rd or 24th ranked in the nation.
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Just looked up the criteria . The 6 highest ranked conference champions get in. OK , you will get a couple out of 12 who should not be in. But 80% of the teams will deserve a shot. I can live with that.
Who would have thought that playing in the weakest FBS conference wouldn't properly prepare Liberty to play a top 10 team?
I don't think anyone expected Liberty to win. Still they had a great season and played in a January 1st bowl game, something a lot of teams have never done.
Looking forward to the 12-team playoffs next year. I have long lost interest in meaningless bowl games. This Bama-Michigan game has already in 4 minutes been more exciting than one whole bowl game.
Which is exactly why they shouldn't have been taking up a NY6 bowl slot or a playoff spot next year. We're talking about the 12 best teams in college football. Liberty wasn't even among the 25 best teams.
At least the 12 team playoff will expose all of these weak-conference teams against P5 contenders playing at (hopefully) full strength.
Yes there is a draw back to expanding to 12. But the positives outweigh that one draw back for me.
I'm not excited about giving anyone freedom to use what they will say is "common sense". That leaves a out to leave teams like South Carolina out.
When given a choice between us and say Notre Dame or Florida (this has happened in the past) who do we think they will choose?
Bowl games count towards the team’s final record and standing in the polls.
The other teams, because the substance of us is well known.
Liberty would have been better off playing SMU or Tulane, but the current model sets aside a spot for the highest ranked G5 team. Some of these G5 teams have surprised us in the past, and Liberty is not the first G5 or P5 team to lose by 39 points or more in a bowl game.
I agree that the CFP should strive to include the 4 (or 12) best teams. The other bowls should be eliminated or pair similar teams such as 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8,..., and 23 vs 24.
It’s stupid. There’s going to be a #25 G5 team that gets in over a 10-2 #12 P5 team. P5 needs to break away from the NCAA in football. That’s the only way it will ever be fixed.
All conferences have a vote, plus ND. The G5 commissioners would not have voted to expand if they weren’t included in it. The G5 needs its own tournament with its own championship. It’s the only championship any of those teams will ever get to compete for.
It's not my preference. I prefer the champions of the P5 conferences getting auto bids with the remainder filled out by a selection committee. But they did not ask me. That being said， I prefer going to the 12-team set up as they have it for next year than staying at 4.
Agree. It’s a step in the right direction, and better than 4.
So what is the answer? Certainly not the current system which we have little or no chance.
Or, in the case of entertainment, or other discretionary activity, just leave it off.
Uhhh, every bowl game counts towards a team’s final record and impacts their ranking, if ranked.
So if a 6-6 team is up against a 7-5 team in bowl, how does that impact the 12-team selections? I believe it is safe to say they would be in a minor bowl. I did say "teams in contention".
I feel like this year moreso than ever the non P5 has gotten a lot more love. Liberty, SMU, Tulane all sunk it up their bowls against P5.
It's not the 12 best. Its currently the 6 conference champions and then the "6 next best". (perhaps they will change it to 5 given the PAC12 collapse) Given that format, its still going to be hard for a non conference champion to enter.
I don't understand why there's such a push to make the G5 seem more relevant than they are.
Meanwhile, the future of college football is going to be such that the G5 is eliminated altogether from major college football.
Weird dichotomy.
There is no longer a P5 group. Sooner than most think it will shrink down to P3.
Whatever you want to call it...P5, P65, P3. Football is a different sport than bball or baseball. It needs to be treated as such.
The answer is simple, get better and prove we belong. 131 years of .500 football don't make for a very compelling choice.