Link: Some say rap music seismically shifted from this duo. You could call it the B.C. (B.C.E.) and A.D. (A.C.E.) of Rap (Hip-Hop)
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Luther Campbell.This board desperately needs more Glen Campbell.
So are broad, sweeping statements (and I don't listen to much rap).
I don't know; I'd say Run DMC are sort of the before/after of rap. For a while anyway - then it's mostly pre/post NWA.
Pfft, I'll trust Dan Rather on this topic.
Coach Seider and Uncle Luke.... - On3
gotta be honest....when 2 Live Crew were at their heyday, never thought that any Penn Stater would associating with Luke Campbell...
Mr. Potter, I will commend you. Your thread topics are the most eclectic on this board.
That said, my favorite wrappers [sic] are the ones that say Hershey's on the outside.
That said, my favorite wrappers [sic] are the ones that say Hershey's on the outside.
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For people that grew up listening to Western style music, melody is an important part of the song. In more recent times, vocal melody in particular is key. For many African/eastern forms of music, rhythm is more important. In fact, many forms of African and Indian music involve drums only and it's extremely complex. Being influenced by African descendants, rap places a heavy emphasis on rhythm and not on vocal melody (although there are often melodies played by brass, keyboards, etc). Just because rap chooses to emphasize a different aspect of music than that of Western style music does not make it crap. As with any music, there is good rap and bad rap.
Rakim is so much better than other rappers, it’s not even close. Greatest lyricist, with the greatest voice. It would be if like Bob Dylan could sing like Al Green.
Perhaps you are thinking crude and harsh lyrics of gansta rap, but that is just one particular rap style.
Many rap artists choose to address life and problems in the inner city quite poignantly, particularly amongst the black community. Public Enemy, Common, Queen Latifah, Eminem, Nas, Rakim just a few examples.
Again, your idea of good music comes from a Western perspective. People from a different perspective may find other aspects of music more important. You can not like a music, but still give it respect.
Bro - I just discovered ‘Irish Rap’ (apparently there is quite a healthy rap scene there) and these guys rap in Gaelic. Sure, it’s anti-Brit, but a head bobber nonetheless…these guys go f*cking hard.
You got it all out of your system now? Move along to the 800th thread celebrating the Stones, Beatles, Led Zep and all that other overhyped nonsense that old out of touch white guys hold so dear ...
Tremendous flow. Great lyricist. Eric B.'s were beats sometimes awesome, sometimes blah for my taste. One of the first to not be an in-your-face rah-rah hypeman on the mic ... I just wish he had more of a narrative to his songs ... it was mostly just boasting about his skills (which were, in fact, about as good as it gets).
Let's not swing the pendulum too far. Those bands are absolutely fantastic. There is no reason rap and classic rock can't both be held dear.
Or Miles Davis, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Nat King Cole. So very old-fashioned.
One of my favorite Rap lines of all-time comes from Paid In Full..
Thinkin of a master plan
Cause ain't nothin but sweat inside my hand
So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent
So I dig deeper but still comin up with lint
Thinkin of a master plan
Cause ain't nothin but sweat inside my hand
So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent
So I dig deeper but still comin up with lint
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I didn't say otherwise. But music thread after music thread celebrates them, and their ilk, and no one's rushing in there saying "this all sucks." One thread related to rap, that doesn't denigrate it, and some turd has to jump in the punch bowl right away. Music doesn't start and end with the classic rock crew.
Totally get it. I will never understand the urge of some to crap on other people's interests.
This song is up there with Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones. It's excellent. But talking schmak on the legendary Kings of rock and roll is bad form and does not help your argument.
They're both great.
This is the hot stuff right here. Rap is all about the Beatz! How can you not dig this? The lyrics are good too but that's an afterthought.
LOL. Mama Said Knock You Out wasn't included because it's a great song ... it was a message. It's a good song ... a fun song, but that's about it. My argument is that the world doesn't begin and end with those groups, as some on here assume it does ... so, yes, it not only helped my argument ... it was my argument. There's a certain type of person who lives and breathes only those types of groups, and rushes to crap on other forms of music ... there are plenty of threads for them to celebrate their interests without dumping their insecurities into this one.
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