Well that and not having a RB that would be 2nd or 3rd team at any other SEC school.
Loggains Running game plan is terrible
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Coaching didn’t lead to those guys getting blown off the ball. Coaching didn’t lead them to getting whooped all night long. Coaching did choose those guys though. That’s probably my biggest issue.
Yes it did. You tech technique. They were playing the way they been coached up. No way every lineman we have is all equally that inept. No way after all the workout they didn’t know how to execute most of the time.
I don't get it. They aren't terribly undersized. They aren't 5* but they weren't 2* either. They played like 2* though.
You play like you practice. We obviously went back to pillow fights to toughen the lineman
I'm still pro-Beamer. I do wonder sometimes if he's a little too much of a player's coach. We just looked pathetically soft last night, against a team that wasn't particularly tough.
They just said on SEC Now that Chizik realized early on we would not be able to run the ball. Us continuing to use snaps on run plays was foolish.
We need to play Braswell and Anderson. True RBs and see if it helps. I would start freshmen o lineman as well. When you are in your 3rd year or 4th and still sloth footed, it aint getting better
I guess the one advantage Anderson has is that he's actually a RB, as you say. Joyner's a great guy, super athletic, and I think we could use him for some gadget plays, but he's just not a RB. You don't learn the position well enough to play at the P5 level in a matter of a few months. Impossible.
It's an absurd notion, really, when you think about it.
I suppose the one major advantage Anderson would have is that as a true RB he should have the RB instincts. Whether he's physically capable enough, I don't know. But you can't develop RB instincts in a few months compared to guys who have played the position for years.
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The only thing that Anderson and any other running back could have done would be to help block. We literly could not get any push on the O line. This was not a Running Back issue.
I tend to agree (hence my thread on burning Braswell's redshirt if this is not a RB problem).
Just thinking out loud about what could make Anderson more advantageous compared to Joyner.
3 of them were. 2 came from FCS and one from Charlotte. Highly doubt any of them were actually rated. Lee and Wannamaker were 3*s.
Rucker abused us all night. Here are a couple of clips. The first he just straight up abuses Hughes. What kind of technique would you recon could rectify this nonsense? He damn near knocked Hughes into Ratt. I guess you could say JuJu missed his chip and that threw Hughes off, but that's a stretch. The second clip Fugar gets on him pretty good. Now Fugar is a giant compared to Rucker. But as soon as Fugar gets his hands on him, the severely undersized Rucker stands him straight up, pushes him aside with one arm, and make the tackle at the LOS. This kind of crap was going on all night.
Taters had 11 more 1st downs and 50 more yards of total offense. They won’t have 3 turnovers every game. You saw glimpse’s of their potential. Be honest
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I did not see a twelve point favorite looking good. Clemson has a massive talent advantage and lost resoundingly. Our loss was bad but we were the underdogs.
You just proved my point from another post. Fire off the ball and initiate contact then start pass blocking. That is legal as long as you don’t go 3 yards past the line of scrimmage. No Way someone could drive you backwards using that technique. But when you start backpedaling towards the quarterback and a guy is bull rushing, you keeping him off the quarterback is 10 times harder.
Duke had three turnovers also.… tater lone touchdown came off of the Duke fumble. But their oline looked serviceable. QB, receivers, dbacks…..not so much
I'm not an OL coach, but I don't think that's the way it works. A LT is typically going to shuffle or backpedal and let the edge come to them, which creates the pocket. That's why balance and lower body strength is so important at that position, so they can absorb that contact and deal with it.
There’s a little bit of that from a tackle perspective. Clips you showed where our interior line was blown up were textbook asking to get manhandled on the inside. Even a DT should take angles to close the gap and meet force with force. There’s an art to the war. But backpedaling into the quarterback aint one of those options. We know this….our technique isn’t sustainable.
Personally…I say play the talented freshmen
How do you find that hidden gem if they don't play? May show something in a game situation that is not there in practice.
I get it. But the coaches have seen those freshmen go against our DL that can't get pressure. I would hope they're playing the best available. The exception is Markee Anderson. Heard a lot of good things about him coming out of the spring. But missed some time in fall to injury. He might be the answer.
We have to get more creative in the run game like we did at the end of last year, whatever that takes; wildcat, jet sweeps, pitch to Joyner but let him throw off it some times. Then we may be able to sneak some runs up the middle. Our best “running “ game may be quick passes outside. I say all this because it loosens up the middle. But Loggains has to be intentional about play calling to make it work, and by work I mean us getting a total of 50-100 yards on the ground at best. I don’t think we can do any more than that but at least we can make the defense have to think more in the run game. It’s going to be very difficult for us against good defenses much less great ones.
Literally OL gave been kick stepping and power stepping to form a pocket for 50 years. Just because our OL coach sucks at teaching it, doesn’t mean it’s broken.
That one didn't age well.
When I said the same thing he took offense and asked me to be honest that I saw their potential.
What is bad is the way App State handled the holes. The difference in that game turned out to be D. Maye.
Flush the turd and move on. We’re going to learn all we need to know about this team over the next 2 weeks. Do they have enough fight to be competitive against UGA? Can they rebound the next week in what will be a must win against MSST? If both of those are no, we’re in deeeeep trouble.