Look Who's 45th in the NET Rankings!

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We beat Vandy by 15 on Saturday and dropped 2 in the NET rankings to 44th. Then, we didn't play on Sunday and dropped another point to 45th. That index is starting to look pretty ridiculous.
 

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We beat Vandy by 15 on Saturday and dropped 2 in the NET rankings to 44th. Then, we didn't play on Sunday and dropped another point to 45th. That index is starting to look pretty ridiculous.
Found this good graphic about the net calcs. One common misunderstanding about the net is the Q1-2 record. The quadrants are not a factor in the net, but are a product of the net. They're not an input, rather an output.

Our SOS is killing the net. While we've beaten some good teams, our opponents' offensive efficiency is 112th, and defensive efficiency is 130. When you score 75 on a team that's ranked 199 in defensive efficiency (Vandy), it's not going to do anything for your net. Hard to improve your net unless you outperform the metrics. We keep winning and we're in. The only way the net will hurt is if we get bumped to a 6 seed instead of a 4.

 
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This whole efficiency thing drives me crazy. What happened to just winning games. We beat a UGA team on the road, then handled a good Ole Miss team and a crappy Vandy by 15 points. Since those wins, we have dropped 5 spots. Just makes no sense. Winning should be the main metric (of course SOS can play in there some too).
 
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Somebody will have to explain to me why SOS makes us a NET 45 while a team like Indiana State has a NET of 20???

That's NUTS. If Indiana St, or Dayton, or New Mexico, or several other teams played OUR schedule they would not have as many wins and would not be getting top 20/25 votes.
 
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In my mind, this is a branch of analytics, and analytics is a discipline that is driving almost all decision-making.
 
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Bubba Fett

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Looking at it... look like the "NET Efficiency" criteria is where the thing goes bonkers. It's a prettiness factor.
 
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Looking at it... look like the "NET Efficiency" criteria is where the thing goes bonkers. It's a prettiness factor.

Found this good graphic about the net calcs. One common misunderstanding about the net is the Q1-2 record. The quadrants are not a factor in the net, but are a product of the net. They're not an input, rather an output.

Our SOS is killing the net. While we've beaten some good teams, our opponents' offensive efficiency is 112th, and defensive efficiency is 130. When you score 75 on a team that's ranked 199 in defensive efficiency (Vandy), it's not going to do anything for your net. Hard to improve your net unless you outperform the metrics. We keep winning and we're in. The only way the net will hurt is if we get bumped to a 6 seed instead of a 4.


And I suppose that on the flip side, defensive efficiency doesn't mean anything. Carolina has held two of the highest-scoring teams in the country to their season-low output, and are in the top 15 in scoring defense nationally. Fortunately, unlike most years, I feel confident that negative data won't be an obstacle to the postseason.
 

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Found this good graphic about the net calcs. One common misunderstanding about the net is the Q1-2 record. The quadrants are not a factor in the net, but are a product of the net. They're not an input, rather an output.

Our SOS is killing the net. While we've beaten some good teams, our opponents' offensive efficiency is 112th, and defensive efficiency is 130. When you score 75 on a team that's ranked 199 in defensive efficiency (Vandy), it's not going to do anything for your net. Hard to improve your net unless you outperform the metrics. We keep winning and we're in. The only way the net will hurt is if we get bumped to a 6 seed instead of a 4.


I could be wrong, but I think they have modified the formula outlined in that Tweet from 2018.
 

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Or Grand Canyon, who is one spot ahead of us and whom we beat. It looks like we are, by far, the best team they've played.
Exactly. That makes ZERO sense. SOS doesn't appear to have much impact. It's got to be that efficiency formula part, which is ridiculous because teams at different levels can be more or less efficient, but that doesn't mean they could beat a team at a higher level. You can apply the same formula to say High School teams... ...look at that efficiency! ...but they aren't college level.
 

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I could be wrong, but I think they have modified the formula outlined in that Tweet from 2018.
Ah, you are correct. They dropped the winning % and adj winning %. The TVI and adjusted net efficiency rating are the only 2 factors now. I guess they figured too much emphasis was being put on actually winning....go figure.
 

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We beat Vandy by 15 on Saturday and dropped 2 in the NET rankings to 44th. Then, we didn't play on Sunday and dropped another point to 45th. That index is starting to look pretty ridiculous.

Starting to?

It's been ridiculous for a while now.