Loved Beamer’s not-so-subtle dig at Maryland
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It hurt when Barham flipped but I honestly love this random Maryland rivalry.
Would love to play the Terps. Why not a home-and-home? If we'll travel to Boone and Greenville, NC, why not College Park, MD? Last time we faced them on the gridiron was 1971, our first year as an independent.
The ACC asked all member schools to honour the football contracts with USC for 1971. Otherwise, my guess is that College Park would have opted out of that game due to the bad blood resulting from the previous basketball season.
The ACC asked all member schools to honour the football contracts with USC for 1971. Otherwise, my guess is that College Park would have opted out of that game due to the bad blood resulting from the previous basketball season.
Of all the original ACC schools, Maryland is the only one I'm not old enough to having memory of us playing.
Tillman-every year
UNC-lots since we left
NC State-lots since we left, most recently in '17; ready to play them again
Duke-most recently in '91
Wake-most recently in '87
UVa-most recently in the Muschamp Don't Need All Our Practice Dates Bowl
eh, a matchup with MD wouldn't interest me. The only upside is that I'd get to go see us play when the game is in MD. Otherwise, they don't bring much to the table.
Would interest me a lot. Despite the fact that sooooooo many Cocks profess their love of the SEC, we're, in all actuality, an ACC team that plays in the SEC, just like Maryland is an ACC team that plays in the big 10. Not counting Tillman, I wish 1 of our non-conferece games was an old ACC foe every single year. I miss playing them.
I know some on here have very strong feelings about our past membership in the ACC, but I have to admit, I really don't get it. Our time in the ACC was a blip on the radar screen. I know we were a charter member and all, but it was only 18 years of our history and it's now been 53 years since we left. We've been in the SEC for 31 years now.
Somewhat OT but a neat story. My wife was going through her parents' stuff after her dad died. He was a total packrat. He had ticket stubs from the 1953 Maryland-South Carolina football game at Maryland. I can't remember the cost, but I think it was a few bucks. My wife figured, given the year and date, they were on a date. We lost 24-6 and MD went on to claim the national championship before losing the Orange Bowl to #4 Oklahoma. It seems back then the national champs were determined at the end of the regular season.
I feel the same. The hatred for the ACC as a whole is mostly an old timers' thing.
They don't bring ANYTHING to the table other than being able to play in that area and have that exposure in the DMV area. Gives us an almost sure win against a P5 team. Rather play them than East Carolina.
Nailed it. We are a SEC school that once played in the ACC (and the Metro).
Recalculation is in order.
Going anywhere north of the VA state line is not an upside in any universe. Even VA is iffy.... at best.
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Valid point, #18IsTheMan.
I was at Carolina from 1969-1973 and I loathe the ACC (especially Tobacco Road). But, I must say my feelings originated more from basketball than football. If you weren't around then the era cannot be explained. Almost every game was tension to the ultimate degree. With the exception of UNC v. Duke basketball that atmosphere in the ACC is largely gone also.
Those hated relationships have not been duplicated in the SEC (yet). I believe had Spurrier been younger (and stayed longer) it would be different.
You're right about BB. We sure cared about football, but basketball was intense, insanely intense.
Bingo....got into more than a few fights in middle school because of those basketball rivalries.
Like someone else described, the emotion surrounding basketball was off the charts. UNC, Duke and the rest of the North Carolina schools (plus Maryland for some reason) of the ACC assumed they were some type of anointed royalty of the conference and SC was a chump school.
Then Frank McGuire left UNC where he had won a national championship and later came to USC and we started beating the NC schools. They absolutely couldn't handle it. Every time we would play one of the North Carolina or MD ACC schools at away games, the fans would go berserk. Nothing wrong with fans being fans but this was on another level. Keep in mind, there were mainly just small arenas at that time and the fans were right down on top of the court. Things would get ugly kind of like World Wide Wresting a little bit.
Of course, the USC fans never backed down and gave it back to them full force at our home games. We would camp out overnight and sometime longer just to get tickets. It really got out of hand but this was during the time when Refs would let things go.
It kind of culminated when John Ribbock, a huge muscular power forward for us, got in a fight with Maryland players. Lefty Driesell a colorful coach for MD ran up and Ribbock punched the coach in the face. The most amazing thing was no one was really disciplined. At least no one was kicked off the team. Like all star wrestling it was just a normal game in the ACC. It was a lot different back then.
Then Frank McGuire left UNC where he had won a national championship and later came to USC and we started beating the NC schools. They absolutely couldn't handle it. Every time we would play one of the North Carolina or MD ACC schools at away games, the fans would go berserk. Nothing wrong with fans being fans but this was on another level. Keep in mind, there were mainly just small arenas at that time and the fans were right down on top of the court. Things would get ugly kind of like World Wide Wresting a little bit.
Of course, the USC fans never backed down and gave it back to them full force at our home games. We would camp out overnight and sometime longer just to get tickets. It really got out of hand but this was during the time when Refs would let things go.
It kind of culminated when John Ribbock, a huge muscular power forward for us, got in a fight with Maryland players. Lefty Driesell a colorful coach for MD ran up and Ribbock punched the coach in the face. The most amazing thing was no one was really disciplined. At least no one was kicked off the team. Like all star wrestling it was just a normal game in the ACC. It was a lot different back then.
Just have more natural rivalries with the North Carolina schools especially. Carolina & Maryland had bitter feelings toward one another a good bit too.
I had a thing with NCSU with the way our '86 football game ended. The next season we clobbered them...so I kinda got over it.
I still got a kick out of it when beat them when Steve was HBC.
It was crazy those low MBB scores back in those days before the shot clock.
Screw the ACC. All of them. I wouldnt play any of them if the choice was mine. Yeah we got to play clemson. That's enough for me. So glad we are playing ND and not NC St. in the Gator Bowl. That would sux.
No wrong or right way to look at it but we were in the ACC for 19 years and with the ACC schools for 50 years before that in the SoCon and the old SIAA. In addition we played a largely ACC football schedule for another 20 years after leaving the ACC. It's math. If, while not feeling the same way, you cannot understand how some of us feel that's really your issue
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He should repeat what he just said in the video to the Charlotte area kids who choose UNC or NCSU in regards to BIG SOLD OUT STADIUMS with SEC TEAMS being played.
This year was light in the Charlotte area. We did get Judge Collier from Rock Hill...The two misses that I wish we would've gotten was the running back that signed with OU and Chris Peal that signed with UGA...next year, the state of NC will have 6-7 four or five stars and then the rest 3 stars. The quarterback for Providence Day and 2 WR's from that school in the NC top 10. I don't see us hitting hard in NC except for that Linebacker from Asheville (battle between UT/Clemson) and WR's from the Charlotte area.
UNC/NCSU will have to recruit Virginia and Georgia hard this next recruiting cycle. Would love to see us, and Virginia Tech take over the Tideward/Maryland area...
This year was light in the Charlotte area. We did get Judge Collier from Rock Hill...The two misses that I wish we would've gotten was the running back that signed with OU and Chris Peal that signed with UGA...next year, the state of NC will have 6-7 four or five stars and then the rest 3 stars. The quarterback for Providence Day and 2 WR's from that school in the NC top 10. I don't see us hitting hard in NC except for that Linebacker from Asheville (battle between UT/Clemson) and WR's from the Charlotte area.
UNC/NCSU will have to recruit Virginia and Georgia hard this next recruiting cycle. Would love to see us, and Virginia Tech take over the Tideward/Maryland area...
I enjoy the SEC, football mainly, but those ACC years were like Camelot. A natural fit. It was a shame the marriage took such a nasty turn and the bitter feelings still persist even today.
It ended up a couple generations ago. It's like southern folks who still hold a grudge about the Civil War.
It's unfortunate that you lack the maturity to understand how people can approach things from a different set of life experiences and see something differently than you do but in no way maintain than your view is wrong. And then to turn around and denigrate it by comparing it to people who can't get past the Civil War. Wow!
Your parents clearly didn't take the belt to you enough when you wouldn't share your toys. Oh well not my problem. But I pity people who have to deal with you in real life.
Aw, you understand!
My dad, too! However, they can't touch the Kentucky people I'm exposed to here in Naples.
We played NCSU every year as an independent until joining the SEC.
I guess we can call UVA an "original" ACC school, even though they are not a charter member. They joined in December 1953; the league was formed in May 1953.
I wouldn't mind seeing Dook, Wake, and Maryland on many more sports schedules. I think these days they would insist on a home-and-home on the gridiron, and I used to think we wouldn't go for that (specifically Dook and Wake). But now that we're scheduled to play in Boone, NC in a few years, how about it?
And that's what people who didn't experience it don't get. Just because something might be an "old timer's thing" is no reason to dismiss it.
Until we won the 1971 ACC Basketball tournament, Maryland's 1958 squad was the only non-big-4 team to have done so. The "some reason" is that College Park did invest in hoops during the 1950s, but backed off a bit to strengthen academics on campus in the early 1960s.
UVA, USC, and Clemron invested very little in their hoops programs until the mid 1960s.
Press Maravich (Pistol Pete's dad) had taken the Taters to the 1962 tournament finals; they lost to Wake.
Everett Case came calling for Press to be his assistant shortly thereafter. And Case offered more $$$ as his assistant than AD Frank Howard was paying him to be the head coach. Howard made no effort to keep him. Self-imposed basketball chump school.
Fans around the league went beserk all the time at all games. USC was not singled out.
The Big Four had no problem with Maryland's competitiveness. They had no problem with USC's either. The problem was with Frank McGuire. He was considered a "troublemaker" in league circles, and resigned from UnCarolina under pressure.
Think about it. A coach who wins you a national title you force to resign? I've stated before - we were in the crossfire between McGuire and the ACC.
And keep in mind that it was Dietzel, not McGuire, who pushed for ACC secession. Wish instead we had sent "Pepsodent Paul" back to West Point or Baton Rouge.
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