LSU: keys to the game?

18IsTheMan

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Here are mine (in my opinion, though I think most of these are the obvious ones). Feel free to add your own:

1. Establishing the run. This goes for both teams, really. A lot is being made of LSU's inability to run the ball on Nicholl's, but they ran it pretty well against So Cal (4.5 ypc), so it was probably just an off night for them. They are averaging 3.8 ypc overall and we are at 2.9. If one team or the other is able to establish the threat of the run, that will go a long way in this contest.

1a. Find some room for Rocket. Running up the middle isn't working (news flash!) and is just a waste of a down. He showed some stuff on his run for an apparent TD that was overturned. I hope our coaches will design run plays that go to the strength of the team, and Rocket in particular.

2. Containing Nussmeier. He was great against So Cal (30/39, 2 TD, 1 INT). Against Nicholls, he was pretty much their entire offense, throwing for 302 yards (of 378 total) and 6 TDs. LSU will surely try to get the run game going, and we struggled mightily with that in the early going against UK. But the offense will go through Nussmeier and our secondary will be tested.

3. Keep the DL mojo going. Through 2 games, the story of our team is the DL. We certainly lose against ODU without their effort, and they were consistently in UK's backfield from start to finish on Saturday. Our pass rush will be vital in this game. As noted in #2, Nussmeier is the key for LSU's offense, and he's not a run threat, so we need to get to him early and often.

4. The LSU OL. Ties in with #3. LSU was expected to have the best OL in college football this season. Through their first 2 games, it has been considered a disappointment so far by the LSU people. That is relative. of course, to them being expected to be the best unit in college football. It will still be the best OL, by far, that we have faced. Our DL has been one of the surprises in the league so far. We need to attack early and try to establish dominance on the LOS.

5. Get Sellers loose. Another obvious one, but without much of a run threat so far, the offense if falling largely on Sellers shoulders. He looked his best when he rolled out of the pocket against UK (and it helps that UK had some blown coverages), but Sellers was good at getting out and buying time to find the open guy. He's clearly a work in progress, as is the entire offense, but he took some nice baby steps against UK. Hopefully the coaches are getting a better idea of what his strengths and weaknesses are and will be able to tailor the offense to emphasize the former and minimize the latter.

6. Beamer. This game offers him the ability to really start to establish himself as a head coach. He seemed on the way to doing that with the wins over UT and Clemson, but those feel like an eternity ago at this point. With a top 20 name brand team rolling into town and Game Day on site, this offers him the chance to show he belongs. Will we look prepared? Will we be able make in-game adjustments as necessary? Even in a loss, the one thing we don't want is to look outclassed.
 

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I can't help but think LSU had something of a hangover from the USC game. The USC game was close and had to be a big disappointment for LSU and it can be hard for a team to get up for a cupcake after a disappointing loss. Nichols isn't as bad as people automatically think. A few years ago they went into Athens and gave Georgia all they wanted. LSU did win 44-21, it wasn't like it was some close fought game. I don't love Kelly's personality but he is a good coach and LSU is still in the hunt for the SECC. He knows the importance of this game.

As good as things looked at first blush with the UK game, I think UK fell apart as much as we played better. Vandergriff folded like a cheap tent. LSU is going to be a real test. They aren't going to hand us a win like UK did.
 

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I can't help but think LSU had something of a hangover from the USC game. The USC game was close and had to be a big disappointment for LSU and it can be hard for a team to get up for a cupcake after a disappointing loss. Nichols isn't as bad as people automatically think. A few years ago they went into Athens and gave Georgia all they wanted. LSU did win 44-21, it wasn't like it was some close fought game. I don't love Kelly's personality but he is a good coach and LSU is still in the hunt for the SECC. He knows the importance of this game.

As good as things looked at first blush with the UK game, I think UK fell apart as much as we played better. Vandergriff folded like a cheap tent. LSU is going to be a real test. They aren't going to hand us a win like UK did.

Yes, I would advise our fans not to get too heady after our UK win. There's a lot of what Nick Saban rightly called rat poison being put out there by media right now, based on our UK win. UK is probably not that good and, as you rightly noted, they completely fell apart in the game. LSU isn't going to do that.
 

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I think a key aspect will be ball control and sustained drives which eat clock and keep our defense off the field and fresh.
Fatigue on defense will be a factor if our offense is not able to move the ball.
 

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I think a key aspect will be ball control and sustained drives which eat clock and keep our defense off the field and fresh.
Fatigue on defense will be a factor if our offense is not able to move the ball.

That will necessitate a run game......
 

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........mixed with a short passing game involving the TE's.
And Sellers will need to be a threat to run the ball as well. LSU looked vulnerable in the previous 2 games.

No question they are vulnerable, but we'd foolish to think that much of the UK game translates to the LSU game. LSU is much stronger across the board compared to UK.
 

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The key to every game this year is creating turnovers and limiting your own TO’s.Ig you wonder how a Will Muschamp team can win 9 games and beat Michigan in a bowl ,go back and look at the TO margin for that season.
 
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I went into the UK game viewing it as a barometer game for the season, but they looked so bad, I'm not really sure we can take much from the game. LSU is much more of a barometer for where we sit as a team. Are the vulnerable? Yes. Are they unquestionably better than us across the board? Yes.

Even if we lose, if we look like an SEC opponent and don't get thoroughly outclassed, I won't be too depressed about it. Not pushing the moral victory mindset, but for starting as much young talent as we are, I'm realistic about our prospects in this one.
 

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Here’s what’ll happen…

LSU will pin their ears back on defense and constantly pressure Sellers. Sellers will be hunted the whole game and lose the ball maybe 3-4 times which will translate into some cheap LSU points. The kid has no pocket awareness yet, as we saw with Kentucky. LSU will try to feast on that.
Our defense will come back down to earth as LSU will scheme away from our ends. Expect some runs up the middle to gas our guys, and quick passes.
When Sellers has been neutralized, there will be no answer, and our O will become one dimensional. Sanders will be forced to go up the middle for 1-2 yard gains.
I don’t think LSU opens a can on us, but I’m thinking it’ll be LSU 24-10.
 

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Here’s what’ll happen…

LSU will pin their ears back on defense and constantly pressure Sellers. Sellers will be hunted the whole game and lose the ball maybe 3-4 times which will translate into some cheap LSU points. The kid has no pocket awareness yet, as we saw with Kentucky. LSU will try to feast on that.
Our defense will come back down to earth as LSU will scheme away from our ends. Expect some runs up the middle to gas our guys, and quick passes.
When Sellers has been neutralized, there will be no answer, and our O will become one dimensional. Sanders will be forced to go up the middle for 1-2 yard gains.
I don’t think LSU opens a can on us, but I’m thinking it’ll be LSU 24-10.

We did get VERY VERY lucky on the one sack on Sellers where he fumbled. He had zero idea the guy was coming. UK fell on the ball, but we beyond lucky that we actually ended up recovering it.
 
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We did get VERY VERY lucky on the one sack on Sellers where he fumbled. He had zero idea the guy was coming. UK fell on the ball, but we beyond lucky that we actually ended up recovering it.
Brian Kelly is a good coach and he’ll have his defense ready to rock. His literal job depends on winning this game
 
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Here’s what’ll happen…

LSU will pin their ears back on defense and constantly pressure Sellers. Sellers will be hunted the whole game and lose the ball maybe 3-4 times which will translate into some cheap LSU points. The kid has no pocket awareness yet, as we saw with Kentucky. LSU will try to feast on that.
Our defense will come back down to earth as LSU will scheme away from our ends. Expect some runs up the middle to gas our guys, and quick passes.
When Sellers has been neutralized, there will be no answer, and our O will become one dimensional. Sanders will be forced to go up the middle for 1-2 yard gains.
I don’t think LSU opens a can on us, but I’m thinking it’ll be LSU 24-10.
It's a lot easier, and more realistic, to take this critique. We gotta hope that our defensive front really does give their offensive front nightmares the whole game, and that our secondary holds up. It's possible.

Sellers absolutely cannot turn the ball over. If he does, it better be on a deep interception, that's less likely to hurt us. Put it on the ground and we're in deep trouble. Pocket awareness must improve. I'm one of those who thinks there is NO WAY he can see out the side of those glasses...

Just put your hand up by your eyes where the side of his glasses are, you get about 10-20 degrees, or more, of vision cut off.

The offense must continue to improve. We must get some running lanes for Rocket. The designed QB runs must be limited and effective.

Ultimately I land where you do. It's tough to see us winning, LSU is huge and deep and well coached. It's possible. We'll need our flat out best effort, a tremendous home crowd, and a little luck.
 

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This

They spent $1,250 for glasses he can't see out the side?

That's so Gamecock.

Seriously, they need to go spend some more. At least get the frames in something clear, anything that at least lets him see movement in his peripheral area.
 

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That nine win season was a disaster for USC. Ray reacted as if the GCs had won a FBNC.
The same thing happened in 2022 after the UT and Clemson games. Ray (and most of the fan base) acted like Carolina had won the SECC and were headed to the CFP.

A 7 win season this year might generate the same enthusiasm.
 

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Let's hope so!
^^This is a problem^^

A fan base getting super excited over a 7 win season sends a message to the AD that 7 wins is what the fans want so he keeps giving them what they want. The schedule has 4 pretty sure wins baked in so 7 wins means we won 3 whole games against actual competition.
 

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^^This is a problem^^

A fan base getting super excited over a 7 win season sends a message to the AD that 7 wins is what the fans want so he keeps giving them what they want. The schedule has 4 pretty sure wins baked in so 7 wins means we won 3 whole games against actual competition.
After last year I will take 7 wins. This year. Next year I would expect 8 wins. I expect progress for a program in a coach's 5th season.
 
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^^This is a problem^^

A fan base getting super excited over a 7 win season sends a message to the AD that 7 wins is what the fans want so he keeps giving them what they want. The schedule has 4 pretty sure wins baked in so 7 wins means we won 3 whole games against actual competition.
Just trying not to be delusional and looking for demonstration of progress.
 
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Just trying not to be delusional and looking for demonstration of progress.

Orbisbit an acknowledgement of our ceiling?

We will not compete for SEC titles. Thwre was a thread on here about being like UK. Not this year, but annually. Get to a bowl consistently, once in a while have a stretch year where we win 9 or 10.
 

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They spent $1,250 for glasses he can't see out the side?

That's so Gamecock.

Seriously, they need to go spend some more. At least get the frames in something clear, anything that at least lets him see movement in his peripheral area.
They spent $1250 on 5 pairs. That's not that expensive in the absurd world of glasses prices.
 

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I want to see play calls for Sellers that get him out of the pocket. He needs to be out of the pocket by design as much as possible considering how poor his awareness of rushers is.
 
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I want to see play calls for Sellers that get him out of the pocket. He needs to be out of the pocket by design as much as possible considering how poor his awareness of rushers is.

And the OL issues we continue to have.
 

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1. I agree, you have to find a way to be creative in the run game against a team that can’t defend the run.
2. We have to be sure in our communication on offense and defense.
3. We don’t need to throw the ball a lot but we need to be efficient in the pass game. We have to desperately connect on a deep pass and take advantage of their man to man defense with their underwhelming DBs.
4. TDs in the redzone
 

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I can't help but think LSU had something of a hangover from the USC game. The USC game was close and had to be a big disappointment for LSU and it can be hard for a team to get up for a cupcake after a disappointing loss. Nichols isn't as bad as people automatically think. A few years ago they went into Athens and gave Georgia all they wanted. LSU did win 44-21, it wasn't like it was some close fought game. I don't love Kelly's personality but he is a good coach and LSU is still in the hunt for the SECC. He knows the importance of this game.

As good as things looked at first blush with the UK game, I think UK fell apart as much as we played better. Vandergriff folded like a cheap tent. LSU is going to be a real test. They aren't going to hand us a win like UK did.
LSU plays USC on September 14th! Why has no one corrected this yet?
 

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FWIW, LSU fans are not feeling too great about their OL after the Nicholls game. I think there's a fairly good chance that game was a just a hangover from the close loss to So Cal, so we shall see.

It'll be a good test to see what kind of DL we really have. LSU might be a bit overrated, but they are still a solid top 25 SEC team, at the very least.
 

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Sorry, but outside of the state of South Carolina pretty much anyone you ask will tell you that USC is in California.
So we should give up? What school is OSU? There are a lot of schools that have the same acronym. There is only one USC in the SEC.
 

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So we should give up? What school is OSU? There are a lot of schools that have the same acronym. There is only one USC in the SEC.
You are correct about the SEC but I would venture that very few people in the SEC outside of South Carolina fans refers to Carolina as "USC". They all refer to Carolina as "South Carolina". Heck, the vast majority of people think of UNC when they hear "Carolina".

As to OSU, I know Ohio State is very big on "The" as part of their name and they generally use tOSU as their acronym.
 

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Yes, we all know USC is most strongly associated with SoCal by those not in Gamecock circles. Nobody questions that.

However, as this is a Gamecock forum, I think standard convention is to refer to us as USC and to SoCal as SoCal or Southern Cal or something else different from USC.
 

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Yes, we all know USC is most strongly associated with SoCal by those not in Gamecock circles. Nobody questions that.

However, as this is a Gamecock forum, I think standard convention is to refer to us as USC and to SoCal as SoCal or Southern Cal or something else different from USC.
I've also noticed that the team from California just uses SC a lot more than they used to.
 

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So we should give up? What school is OSU? There are a lot of schools that have the same acronym. There is only one USC in the SEC.
It's not about giving up. This is a classic marketing mistake and the University of South Carolina and the Athletics Department have had their heads in the sand on this for at least the last 40 years (the ESPN generation). The brand equities owned by the University of Southern California as "USC" and the University of North Carolina as "Carolina" are so deep and so entrenched, it's foolish to piss in the wind against them.

South Carolina has AMAZING brand equity with the "Gamecocks" and instead of leaning into "Gamecocks" as our primary lead branding, we piss in the wind with trying to fight fights we cannot / will not win, dilute the market with sub brands and confusing messages, all while IGNORING the fact that we have our own unique and impenetrable brand fortress waiting for us to capitalize on with minimal incremental dollar investment. Every team uniform should say "GAMECOCKS" across the chest. The default for end zones, baselines, fields, etc. - "GAMECOCKS." Coaches wear: "GAMECOCKS." Team warmups: "GAMECOCKS." Social Media: "GAMECOCKS."

We don't ignore "South Carolina," or "Carolina." You can have style guides with secondary applications and uses of "University of South Carolina Gamecocks," "Carolina Gamecocks," "South Carolina Gamecocks," etc. for merch makers. But the school should be positioning itself as "GAMECOCKS" first and foremost.

This isn't hard. This is brand building 101. But we have to have pugilistic little brother syndrome and whine about "USC" and "Carolina" for decades on end instead of taking the cock by the horns and doing the damn thing to make our own mark while it's right there waiting for us.
 

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It's not about giving up. This is a classic marketing mistake and the University of South Carolina and the Athletics Department have had their heads in the sand on this for at least the last 40 years (the ESPN generation). The brand equities owned by the University of Southern California as "USC" and the University of North Carolina as "Carolina" are so deep and so entrenched, it's foolish to piss in the wind against them.

South Carolina has AMAZING brand equity with the "Gamecocks" and instead of leaning into "Gamecocks" as our primary lead branding, we piss in the wind with trying to fight fights we cannot / will not win, dilute the market with sub brands and confusing messages, all while IGNORING the fact that we have our own unique and impenetrable brand fortress waiting for us to capitalize on with minimal incremental dollar investment. Every team uniform should say "GAMECOCKS" across the chest. The default for end zones, baselines, fields, etc. - "GAMECOCKS." Coaches wear: "GAMECOCKS." Team warmups: "GAMECOCKS." Social Media: "GAMECOCKS."

We don't ignore "South Carolina," or "Carolina." You can have style guides with secondary applications and uses of "University of South Carolina Gamecocks," "Carolina Gamecocks," "South Carolina Gamecocks," etc. for merch makers. But the school should be positioning itself as "GAMECOCKS" first and foremost.

This isn't hard. This is brand building 101. But we have to have pugilistic little brother syndrome and whine about "USC" and "Carolina" for decades on end instead of taking the cock by the horns and doing the damn thing to make our own mark while it's right there waiting for us.
Don't forget our UofSC venture, lol

Can't help but wonder how much we paid a consulting firm to come up with that one.
 

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Don't forget our UofSC venture, lol

Can't help but wonder how much we paid a consulting firm to come up with that one.
Thankfully that disaster has been rectified, and the university is back to "USC." Which, of course, is the easy and correct decision.
 
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