Maybe a tell on who's opting out?
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IMO here's how things should work. Players sign a contract to play for a school and both sides should be bound to that contract. The school provides an education, room, board, and football training. In exchange the player agrees to practice and play to the best of their ability for the duration of the contract. The contract should extend through the end of the season which includes the bowl game.
I also think that the contract should bind both parties for 4 years unless a player meets his degree requirements before then. If the player wants to transfer early (portal) the school would have to agree to release him from his contract.
This is how life works for most people. The NCAA totally effed this up.
I also think that the contract should bind both parties for 4 years unless a player meets his degree requirements before then. If the player wants to transfer early (portal) the school would have to agree to release him from his contract.
This is how life works for most people. The NCAA totally effed this up.
The courts already ruled the players are employees of the University. So how much will you pay each player in this scenario? The coaches are making $10 million a year.
Noah Cain looks fantastic in this game. The injuries have had to take their toll on him. He's a shell of what he looks like in this game.
Those 9 games got PSU to a B1G Champpionship, which was/is bigger and more important than the Rose Bowl, although that is a game you don’t opt out of. When you’re already 7-5, different story.
I believe that the US Constitution has a Thirteen Amendment that abolished such behavior. Well maybe not exactly, but as they say “It is what it is”. The fact is we can’t change it wether we approve or not. So learn to adapt to the new reality. I’m not thrilled either, but I’d rather watch a college football game no matter whose playing than get a vasectomy with a dull butter knife. Proper prospective is priceless.
Completely agree. There was a picture of a very emotional hug with his mother after (maybe) the 1st game of 2021. After I saw him struggle all season, I took that hug to mean, at least partially, that he had a rough time in rehab. I wish him the best.
That was a nice farewell. Best wishes for a happy and successful life.
Quit. Lol. If we get the best HS kids like Chase Young and Nick Bosa it will happen as it did with them. Both were first round draft picks and tOSU are still playoff contenders every year. But the same posters here will b!tch cause it's not like the old days. It's never going back to the way it was in the 80's. Get over it!!!
I believe one of two things will happen as more and more athletes leave. Universities will be forced to strike binding agreements with the NFL or treat college football “truly” like a semi-pro league.
The NCAA is in direct conflict with itself and needs to figure out where all the money should go to make it right.
Report: NCAA Paid Mark Emmert $2.9 Million in 2019-20 Despite COVID-19 Revenue Drop
NCAA president Mark Emmert was paid nearly $3 million in the 2019-20 fiscal year despite a 50 percent drop in revenue due to COVID-19.
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It is absolutely crazy to bet a bowl game early before the opt outs are known
It is absolutely crazy to bet a bowl game early before the opt outs are known Agree, unless you try to anticipate them. I got western Michigan at +7! Expecting Carson strong out but the coach was a bonus. Now watch Nevada tear them up.
My point about the 9 games is they are not a standalone entity. They are part of the whole 2016 season that had 14 games. The bad of that year has to be included with the good. I think too many people focus on the limited 9 (or 10 if one wants to include the CCG) game portion and overinflate its success in relation to other seasons.
Of course this upcoming Outback Bowl doesn't mean as much as the Rose Bowl did for that season, but it is not an exhibition game, which is an idea put forth by many posters.
Ok then, if it's part of the season why is it OK for both head coaches and assistants to quit on their team to take other jobs amid the season?
All us old guys remember the ra ra ra go team attitude of the past, when players were proud to be part of a team and actually considered themselves as representatives of the institution.
Though there are some exceptions, many of these modern day players have been placed on a pedestal from an early age and the attitude is that it’s all about me me me. We should be honored to have had the opportunity to see them play and wish them the best going forward.
As with much of modern society, it’s all about the almighty dollar.
What I find amazing is how many folks are willing to spend their own money to follow the team to the sh**hole that is Florida to watch the backups play in what so many “fans” consider a meaningless game.
Happy New Year!!!!
Though there are some exceptions, many of these modern day players have been placed on a pedestal from an early age and the attitude is that it’s all about me me me. We should be honored to have had the opportunity to see them play and wish them the best going forward.
As with much of modern society, it’s all about the almighty dollar.
What I find amazing is how many folks are willing to spend their own money to follow the team to the sh**hole that is Florida to watch the backups play in what so many “fans” consider a meaningless game.
Happy New Year!!!!
A contract that is voluntarily entered into by both sides is hardly slavery.
NFL, NBA, & NHL players don't opt out or declare themselves as free agents during the season. That happens after the season and even then they are bound by their contracts. This is a problem unique to the NCAA. I think the reason is that the scholarships are based on a semester system and the bowl game occurs after the semester has ended. This should be easy to fix but the NCAA is messed up.
If I drop a few hundred bucks to see a sporting event I expect the star players to play unless they are injured. If I paid to see Bruce Springsteen in concert I wouldn't be happy if he decided he didn't want to perform that night and sent his sister out to sing in his place. I'd want my money back.
Parsons showed you could opt out of an entire season and not have your draft status affected - from that perspective the whole season is meaningless. It may soon get to the point where superstar players opt out of their final year of eligibility to prep for the nfl combine. High school players have already started doing it in relation to preparing for college.
Maybe we are truly headed for the end of actual sports with everyone simulating play via video games which is apparently where some colleges are already moving.
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But it's OK for coaches to quit before the bowl games after they promised their parents they'd take care of them for their college career? You're OK with that?
IMO. COVID or not no way Parsons would have played his third yr at PSU, I think he always intended to opt out, Covid was a convenient excuse
This thread would be better served to be moved to the comedy board.
As a PSU fan I'm looking forward to seeing PSU play in a bowl game. Any bowl game. With any PSU players. Whether it is with the whole team that played the regular season to see if they can improve on their mistakes and/or play better due to recovering from injuries. Or with younger players that I am anxious to see the potential of, and happy that they will get some experience and possibly be better prepared to play well next season.
Carry on...........
As a PSU fan I'm looking forward to seeing PSU play in a bowl game. Any bowl game. With any PSU players. Whether it is with the whole team that played the regular season to see if they can improve on their mistakes and/or play better due to recovering from injuries. Or with younger players that I am anxious to see the potential of, and happy that they will get some experience and possibly be better prepared to play well next season.
Carry on...........
That's also wrong. I guess the problem is that their contracts have escape clauses.
But you do see the irony that people are upset because of players opting out yet 8 head coaches opted out and took other jobs, one of them being Brian Kelly, whose team had a shot at playing in the CFP if he didn't leave. (The CFP committee said him leaving affected their decision to not include ND in the CFP). In my opinion, him leaving screwed over ALL of the players on the team much more than one player deciding not to play in a bowl. Why isn't anyone talking about Pry leaving our players high and dry?
I do not understand why this question was addressed to me, I have never stated support for the idea.
Judging by their own actions year after year, the coaches certainly treat the bowls as exhibitions, otherwise they'd coach in them then move to their new jobs.
BUT THESE ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS GETTING FREE COLLEGE!!!! THEY MUST PLAY CUZ FREE COLLEGE!!!
Bowls are so important you can decline to go to them. Like we did last year.
I'd like to reply to you but I'm too wrapped up with #13 ranked BYU vs. AUB in the *WWRINW Bowl. It's a real burn burner.
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