MENS BB vs RUTGERS - TUESDAY JAN 24th - 6:30 PM on BTN

Bkmtnittany1

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Just my observations, I apologize beforehand. I watch the games as a guy who coached for 25 years, not as a fan. Just can't do that, it's in the blood. Here goes: 1. PSU's lack of a post player is absolutely killing us on both ends of the floor, this lack of post presence will make up the rest of my thoughts.
2. Teams now have PSU on film 20 times, and the opponents are now adjusting and PSU is not. I watch as opponents, defensively lock in on guys on the perimeter and don't really give them any space at all when they don't have the ball. There is very little help defense from either the strong or weaksides of the floor. Especially with Funk, when he does not have the ball the opponents make sure he is guarded.
3. The opponents dare us to drive the ball to the rim, the opponents big just clog the lane and dare us to throw the ball to Njie. Last nite ws a perfect example, more than once Njie set a ball screen for Picket and #11 for Rutgers just stepped out and forced Pickett into a near double team. The PSU big rolled to the hoop, wide open and Pickett did not pass him the ball. Why? Pickett knew Njie could not score, Rutgers dared Pickett to pass it to him. Even Bardo the announcer made a point of this.
4. The only way we score on the block is if Pickett can some how dribble-drive to the block for a turn around. Each game this gets more difficult as teams are putting bigger players on him. And he has trouble kicking it out for open 3's because teams are not leaving our shooters to help inside. You can see that coaches figure it's a 40 minute game, Pickett gets his 15-20, make sure PSU doesn't beat us from the 3 point line. Again, my #1 comes into play, opponents know we are not getting 20 points from a post player.
5. Why we dont front the opponents post guy just makes me go nuts. Who in their right mind thinks the Njie is going to neutralize any post player. The Wisky guy killed us, Omayuri had more than his season average by half-time. Dread tried to front him, but he just isn't big enough.
6.Why we don't get other guys the ball on the box befuddles me...Shrew would be better off running the Flex offense 10-12 times a game. We run that 5 around none crap all game, opponents just switch our perimeter guys and the word is out...challenge all our 3 point shots. Which is why you see a 4-26 deal like last nite. Bottom line...we gave up 65 on the road. A good enough defensive performance to win any game in the conference. But we have zero options when we don't shoot the 3 ball.

..sorry for the length, frustrating.
 
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Ranked 9th here.
Interesting. I haven't the foggiest wrt how whomever put that together did their rankings - but with Rutgers being unranked in the polls, and somewhere around 50 (IIRC) in the recent RPI indexes, that is quite the outlier.
 
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I don't really assume a win against Rutgers. They're a better BB program than Penn State.

That‘s the issue. Why aren’t we more competitive? Who is rutgres to run over us by 20?
 

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That‘s the issue. Why aren’t we more competitive? Who is rutgres to run over us by 20?
Read my post buddy, pay attention to #1. Omuyuri is at PSU we are a top 15 team. Rutgers won by 20...how many did Omuyuri have? How many did our post people score? It will be the same on Sunday. If Dickinson and the other guy from Michigan combine for 20+ we lose...unless we light it up from 3...
 

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Read my post buddy, pay attention to #1. Omuyuri is at PSU we are a top 15 team. Rutgers won by 20...how many did Omuyuri have? How many did our post people score? It will be the same on Sunday. If Dickinson and the other guy from Michigan combine for 20+ we lose...unless we light it up from 3...

PSU never has an inside presence, but to get run over by rutgres is, to quote Seinfeld George Steinbrenner, in-ex-cus-a-ble!
 

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PSU never has an inside presence, but to get run over by rutgres is, to quote Seinfeld George Steinbrenner, in-ex-cus-a-ble!
4-26 from beyond the arc...8 points in the paint. PSU will lose to everyone... PSU has Harrah and that other post player we had 2-3 years ago...forget his name...we are a totally different team. Why we can't get any bigs is puzzling. Maybe we should recruit Europe, and I am being serious...
 

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Until they sign on the dotted line I rarely discuss recruiting classes but if Steve Pikiell’s 2023 class stays together it’s going to be a real game changer. I don’t remember their names, but they have two HS players committed, a 6’ 10” power forward and a 6’ 7” guard/forward who are both ranked in the top 25.
 
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Until they sign on the dotted I rarely discuss recruiting classes but if Steve Pikiell’s 2023 class stays together it’s going to be a real game changer. I don’t remember their names, but they have two HS players committed, a 6’ 10” power forward and a 6’ 7” guard/forward who are both ranked in the top 25.
Tell the 6-10 kid to be here this weekend. Guarantee him 25 minutes as soon as he steps in the gym...
 
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4-26 from beyond the arc...8 points in the paint. PSU will lose to everyone... PSU has Harrah and that other post player we had 2-3 years ago...forget his name...we are a totally different team. Why we can't get any bigs is puzzling. Maybe we should recruit Europe, and I am being serious...
3 pt shooting starts when Pickett has difficulty getting onto the paint and draw double teams so he can kick out to open shooters. 4-26 happens when that doesn't happen. forced shots, passes not caught in rhythm, etc. It's not as simple as missing wide open shots.

Can't get out rebounded by 17, lose FTs by 10, and lose points in the paint by 25+ and expect to overcome that with superior shooting.

The problem
 

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3 pt shooting starts when Pickett has difficulty getting onto the paint and draw double teams so he can kick out to open shooters. 4-26 happens when that doesn't happen. forced shots, passes not caught in rhythm, etc. It's not as simple as missing wide open shots.

Can't get out rebounded by 17, lose FTs by 10, and lose points in the paint by 25+ and expect to overcome that with superior shooting.

The problem
Teams aren't doubling Pickett with perimeter help as much as they were earlier in the year. They either don't double and force him to make tough shots or they just leave their big in the paint to help. Basically living Njie or whoever else open, almost saying, "go ahead Jalen, pass it to #3!" I said earlier, I have no idea what kind of offensive game Njie has. I have never seen him drop step, jump hook, or up and under. Have no idea if he can make an elbow jumper...he is not one iota of our offense. So why guard him??? Take your chances with Pickett and face guard Funk, Dread and Lundy. One thing I have also noticed with our offensive sets is we had alot more basket cuts in previous games. Now, all I see is our perimeter guys just exchange with one another along the arc. it makes it easy for the defense to just stay belly-up. Again, this is just what i am seeing. Doesn't mean I am correct...i would do a few things differently than Shrew, especially on the post-defense area. For some reason, nobody fronts the post anymore...
 

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Teams aren't doubling Pickett with perimeter help as much as they were earlier in the year. They either don't double and force him to make tough shots or they just leave their big in the paint to help. Basically living Njie or whoever else open, almost saying, "go ahead Jalen, pass it to #3!" I said earlier, I have no idea what kind of offensive game Njie has. I have never seen him drop step, jump hook, or up and under. Have no idea if he can make an elbow jumper...he is not one iota of our offense. So why guard him??? Take your chances with Pickett and face guard Funk, Dread and Lundy. One thing I have also noticed with our offensive sets is we had alot more basket cuts in previous games. Now, all I see is our perimeter guys just exchange with one another along the arc. it makes it easy for the defense to just stay belly-up. Again, this is just what i am seeing. Doesn't mean I am correct...i would do a few things differently than Shrew, especially on the post-defense area. For some reason, nobody fronts the post anymore...
And last night Rutgers left Dread and Wynter open. This team as constructed will not win without making 10 or more 3s.
 
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4-26 from beyond the arc...8 points in the paint. PSU will lose to everyone... PSU has Harrah and that other post player we had 2-3 years ago...forget his name...we are a totally different team. Why we can't get any bigs is puzzling. Maybe we should recruit Europe, and I am being serious...
Even if we had Harrar it wouldn’t make that much of a difference on the offensive side of the court because he never was much of an offensive player. His offensive rebounding would help, but if we can’t hit our shots, it doesn’t really matter.
 

Bkmtnittany1

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Even if we had Harrar it wouldn’t make that much of a difference on the offensive side of the court because he never was much of an offensive player. His offensive rebounding would help, but if we can’t hit our shots, it doesn’t really matter.
I would bet a beer that #11 from Rutgers would not have scored in double figures in the first half if Harrah was guarding him. And as an offensive player he is light years ahead of what we are getting now.
 

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I would bet a beer that #11 from Rutgers would not have scored in double figures in the first half if Harrah was guarding him. And as an offensive player he is light years ahead of what we are getting now.
Unless he got in foul trouble, which could easily happen to any PSU player guarding another team’s big man.
 

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4-26 from beyond the arc...8 points in the paint. PSU will lose to everyone... PSU has Harrah and that other post player we had 2-3 years ago...forget his name...we are a totally different team. Why we can't get any bigs is puzzling. Maybe we should recruit Europe, and I am being serious...
Europe, Africa, Australia, and South America. PSU athletic department needs to give Shrews the $ resources to do this. That is how you find post players.
 

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Teams aren't doubling Pickett with perimeter help as much as they were earlier in the year. They either don't double and force him to make tough shots or they just leave their big in the paint to help. Basically living Njie or whoever else open, almost saying, "go ahead Jalen, pass it to #3!" I said earlier, I have no idea what kind of offensive game Njie has. I have never seen him drop step, jump hook, or up and under. Have no idea if he can make an elbow jumper...he is not one iota of our offense. So why guard him??? Take your chances with Pickett and face guard Funk, Dread and Lundy. One thing I have also noticed with our offensive sets is we had alot more basket cuts in previous games. Now, all I see is our perimeter guys just exchange with one another along the arc. it makes it easy for the defense to just stay belly-up. Again, this is just what i am seeing. Doesn't mean I am correct...i would do a few things differently than Shrew, especially on the post-defense area. For some reason, nobody fronts the post anymore...
Good observations.
 
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