Michigan gets screwed 2x - horrible refs.

[BetaLiberalCock1]

1st half they get a clear TD taken away and just now a clear targeting - "with force, in the head and neck area" and even from behind - but the refs didn't have the stones to call it and give Michigan a 1st down.

I'm sick of the double standards and BS calls from the refs and even with replay they still can't get it right. Unreal. That last play there met every definition of targeting. Lowered his head, lead with his head, used force, and hit the head and neck area. CFB refs crooked as a $3 bill. Having said that, TCU absolutely deserved to win that game.

 

[Fried Chicken]

They need to just get rid of targeting. Would’ve been a terrible way to extend that game. But I agree, that was targeting though an unfortunate occurrence of it. This shouldn’t even come down to something like that, and that’s the real shame.

I do believe Michigan got screwed a bit. But in the end, they got a lot of blame to place on themselves. They didn’t play very well tonight.

 

[18IsTheMan]

It was pretty bad. Two egregious calls. One, of course, directly impacted the game's final outcome. It was very obviously a TD.

The targeting non-call probably wouldn't changed anything, but how was it not targeting? Everything about the tackle fit the textbook definition of targeting. Puzzling to say the least. For making targeting such an emphasis, they're horribly inconsistent with how it's called.

 

[The Reel Ess]

Ahhh, never mind

 

[BetaLiberalCock1]

It was pretty bad. Two egregious calls. One, of course, directly impacted the game's final outcome. It was very obviously a TD.

The targeting non-call probably wouldn't changed anything, but how was it not targeting? Everything about the tackle fit the textbook definition of targeting. Puzzling to say the least. For making targeting such an emphasis, they're horribly inconsistent with how it's called.

Agree with you except one thing. Not puzzling at all. *NO STONES* to call the targeting and give Michigan a first down and thus a whole new chance to win a game they had no business winning.

Lack of guts to make the right call because heaven forbid it might have changed the outcome of the game. That's some sorry officiating no matter how you slice it. But again, TCU absolutely deserved to win that game but the refs have got to call the game square for 60 minutes. It makes me sick.

 

[BetaLiberalCock1]

Screw Michigan

Agreed, but still, call the game square for 60 minutes. Refs didn't have the stones to do that and that's BS no matter who's playing.

 

[Tngamecock]

It was pretty bad. Two egregious calls. One, of course, directly impacted the game's final outcome. It was very obviously a TD.

The targeting non-call probably wouldn't changed anything, but how was it not targeting? Everything about the tackle fit the textbook definition of targeting. Puzzling to say the least. For making targeting such an emphasis, they're horribly inconsistent with how it's called.

Michigan got a break on their last TD on 3rd and long. Tho long pass hit the ground and ref said catch. Marked it for play and Mich ran up and ran next p,ay as replay showed ball clearly hit ground. Refs didn’t stop it to review. In fast motion I said that hit the ground. Had that been us, they would have stopped play and reviewed, then over turned.

Michigan can’t blame refs for this one.

 

[Cocky99]

I don’t know about the first accusation. But that last one should have been a first down Michigan due to targeting. Michigan is one of the teams who gets biased favoritism from referees frequently. See the Clowney hit video……. The referees tried to give the Outback game to them in a silver platter.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Michigan got a break on their last TD on 3rd and long. Tho long pass hit the ground and ref said catch. Marked it for play and Mich ran up and ran next p,ay as replay showed ball clearly hit ground. Refs didn’t stop it to review. In fast motion I said that hit the ground. Had that been us, they would have stopped play and reviewed, then over turned.

Michigan can’t blame refs for this one.

I wouldn't say they got a break. They just got to the line and ran a play before it could be reviewed. Just smart.

 

[KingWard]

I'm less than devastated by their misfortune.

 

[Prestonyte]

They need to just get rid of targeting. Would’ve been a terrible way to extend that game. But I agree, that was targeting though an unfortunate occurrence of it. This shouldn’t even come down to something like that, and that’s the real shame.

I do believe Michigan got screwed a bit. But in the end, they got a lot of blame to place on themselves. They didn’t play very well tonight.

Agree, the targeting thing is way out of hand - play football for goodness sakes.
Way too many booth initiated reviews for targeting!

 

[18IsTheMan]

Agree, the targeting thing is way out of hand - play football for goodness sakes.
Way too many booth initiated reviews for targeting!

The vast majority of targeting calls I see are clearly one way or the other. Yet it often takes them minutes to review. I can't think of a targeting call where I couldn't tell after one replay. Why does it take the professionals several minutes to decide. Usually, it's a situation where there is no targeting. If it takes you minutes to decide, then it's not targeting. Targeting is clear.

There's so much I hate about it. If the offensive player lowers HIS head, leading to the contact with the crown of the defensive player's helmet, it's still targeting on the defensive player.

 

[Permacock70]

On the play in question there was an illegal forward pass which occurred after the fumble. This happened before the possible targeting. Somehow the refs did not throw a flag. The whole play was totally a cluster and you would need to read several pages of the rule book to sort it all out.
It was an exciting game won by the underdog. I see Georgia is a double digit favorite over TCU which continues to be disrespected by the "experts".

 

[Go Gamecocks]

I see Georgia is a double digit favorite over TCU which continues to be disrespected by the "experts".

I expect UGA to have their hands full. Should be a good game.

 

[Permacock70]

On the play in question there was an illegal forward pass which occurred after the fumble. This happened before the possible targeting. Somehow the refs did not throw a flag. The whole play was totally a cluster and you would need to read several pages of the rule book to sort it all out.
It was an exciting game won by the underdog. I see Georgia is a double digit favorite over TCU which continues to be disrespected by the "experts".

Just to keep this going...Anyone remember the roughing the passer call against TCU's # 57 that gave Mich. a first down after a failed third down pass? The TCU lineman barely touched the Mich. QB.

 

[KingWard]

Agree, the targeting thing is way out of hand - play football for goodness sakes.
Way too many booth initiated reviews for targeting!

This whole targeting thing could be addressed through the elimination of helmets. They wouldn't be attacking with their heads then, I'll betcha.

 

[Prestonyte]

If the offensive player lowers HIS head, leading to the contact with the crown of the defensive player's helmet, it's still targeting on the defensive player.

This is the thing - happens about 50% of the time. What is the defender supposed to do I ask?

 

[Game...Cocks]

1st half they get a clear TD taken away and just now a clear targeting - "with force, in the head and neck area" and even from behind - but the refs didn't have the stones to call it and give Michigan a 1st down.

I'm sick of the double standards and BS calls from the refs and even with replay they still can't get it right. Unreal. That last play there met every definition of targeting. Lowered his head, lead with his head, used force, and hit the head and neck area. CFB refs crooked as a $3 bill. Having said that, TCU absolutely deserved to win that game.

Who really cares? It's Michigan.

 

[Game...Cocks]

This whole targeting thing could be addressed through the elimination of helmets. They wouldn't be attacking with their heads then, I'll betcha.

Would you really support this? Now that really would be cool and separate the men from the boys.

 

[CockofEarle]

1st half they get a clear TD taken away and just now a clear targeting - "with force, in the head and neck area" and even from behind - but the refs didn't have the stones to call it and give Michigan a 1st down.

I'm sick of the double standards and BS calls from the refs and even with replay they still can't get it right. Unreal. That last play there met every definition of targeting. Lowered his head, lead with his head, used force, and hit the head and neck area. CFB refs crooked as a $3 bill. Having said that, TCU absolutely deserved to win that game.

How refreshing……u got a coke?

 

[KingWard]

Would you really support this? Now that really would be cool and separate the men from the boys.

I say Rugbyize the whole thing except the game itself. The rule changes adopted since the Flying Wedge would keep the players from killing each other. Without those weapons on their heads, they'd be way more careful about sticking their heads in there. The only thing I would protect would be the teeth - maybe.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If they insist on calling targeting, they need to call it consistently. The way the rule is written, it’s very clear. If it takes more than one or two views of the replay to decide if it’s targeting, then it’s not targeting.

 

[KingWard]

If they insist on calling targeting, they need to call it consistently. The way the rule is written, it’s very clear. If it takes more than one or two views of the replay to decide if it’s targeting, then it’s not targeting.

Needs to be a two minute time limit on all reviews. They are hurting the game with these interminable reviews.

 

[Game...Cocks]

Needs to be a two minute time limit on all reviews. They are hurting the game with these interminable reviews.

The other problem is that they seem to have a 1 minute minimum no matter how obvious the call is. Why does the ref have to walk to a certain spot to announce the review and its outcome, etc.?

I almost think that one solution might be to let people from other regions vote by text. It might be faster and less biased than a single ref decision. National fanbases would introduce bias. But so do refs.