MIZZOU's been More Successful in SEC East than us.

Crazy Cock 89

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SMH. Thank 😊 God I was able to watch and Support Coach Spurrier, and Coach Holtz's Tenure here.

I wish I could say we have never played this bad before. But I can remember the Brad Scott and Sparky Woods years.
 

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We did play for a conference championship and neither team has won one. But point taken, we have much more support and a better recruiting base. They shouldn’t be our measuring stick but they own us right now. Sad.
 
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Mizzu has been a better football program throughout their history than us as well.
Marginally. Their overall win % is a bit better and their bowl record is a bit better. But they are not historically significantly better. That they have been able to come into the SEC and in short order surpass us in the conference is humiliating.
 

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Stop. We only lost to them 4 times out of 32 games
Vandy has beat the taters 3 out of 4
The op was regarding program histories. Vandy has 14 conference championships and 8 undefeated seasons. We hired the General just to beat them.
 

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Not stressed? , you came out of the locker room and got whipped. Since you are a Vol guy, tell us what happened. How did your boys collapse after halftime, Coaching, lack of talent, what happened?
 
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Not stressed? , you came out of the locker room and got whipped. Since you are a Vol guy, tell us what happened. How did your boys collapse after halftime, Coaching, lack of talent, what happened?
We got our hind ends kicked by a better team. I ain't one for making excuses, I thought the chain gang did pretty good.
 

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Lol! I'm not stressed at all. I would be if we only had 2 wins though.
And yet you are cool with getting destroyed by Alabama again, even this bad Alabama team, again, and knowing only one victory over them in the past 17 years. I would not be stressed either as you just get used to it. It becomes a fact of life.
 
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And yet you are cool with getting destroyed by Alabama again, even this bad Alabama team, again, and knowing only one victory over them in the past 17 years. I would not be stressed either as you just get used to it. It becomes a fact of life.
"Bad bama team"? That bama team will be in the playoffs again this year. By the way, you do realize we have beaten bama more than any other program, don't you?
 

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"Bad bama team"? That bama team will be in the playoffs again this year. By the way, you do realize we have beaten bama more than any other program, don't you?
By their own standards they are a bad team. Especially on offense. But you just keep living in the General Neyland era when UT was great. Even Fulmer had great success against Alabama all the way up to the time Saban came to town. Since then, the good ole Vols are 1-16 against him. You talk about the Vols being back and going 9-3 this season. That's just another losing season at Alabama, Hillbillie. And yes, being ranked 11th going into that game makes it a bad Bama team by their own standards...that's the difference between smoking cigars and living on the South Carolina boards again this week. I'm not wasting anymore time with the Vols Nation and their hillbillie fans...but you just keep posting about how bad South Carolina is if it helps you make it through your season.
 
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By their own standards they are a bad team. Especially on offense. But you just keep living in the General Neyland era when UT was great. Even Fulmer had great success against Alabama all the way up to the time Saban came to town. Since then, the good ole Vols are 1-16 against him. You talk about the Vols being back and going 9-3 this season. That's just another losing season at Alabama, Hillbillie. And yes, being ranked 11th going into that game makes it a bad Bama team by their own standards...that's the difference between smoking cigars and living on the South Carolina boards again this week. I'm not wasting anymore time with the Vols Nation and their hillbillie fans...but you just keep posting about how bad South Carolina is if it helps you make it through your season.
I understand how a feller whose team only has an history of losing could discount the history of a team who has a storied one. You guys expect some sort of award every decade that you get to 9 wins, yet here you are talking ish about us finishing 9-3. That says so much about the status of your program compared to ours yet you fail to grasp it. Here you are with 2 wins and a "coach" who is a perpetual embarrassment to the rest of the SEC attempting to trash talk! Stuff like that is why I come here. It's entertaining to see such delusion and lack of self awareness. And you really should learn to spell "hillbilly" correctly before you make feeble attempts to use it as some sort of slur. Once you learn to spell it, look it up. There you will learn that we that descend from the Scotch - Irish are in fact ridge runners. Hillbillies inhabit the Ozark regions of Arkansas and Missouri, two other teams that own your pathetic butt.
 
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Mizzu has been a better football program throughout their history than us as well.
Which is one of the reasons I have scorned Carolina fans that have panned their entry into the conference when everyone knows we were as lucky as a dog with multiple penises to get in. Historically we weren't nearly as worthy as they.
 
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We did play for a conference championship and neither team has won one. But point taken, we have much more support and a better recruiting base. They shouldn’t be our measuring stick but they own us right now. Sad.
They've won the East twice, though.
 
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Which is one of the reasons I have scorned Carolina fans that have panned their entry into the conference when everyone knows we were as lucky as a dog with multiple penises to get in. Historically we weren't nearly as worthy as they.

Missouri all-record: .544
USC all-time record: .510

Missouri bowl record: .429 (35 bowls)
USC bowl record: .400 (25 bowls)

Are they better than us historically? Marginally. They are not head and shoulders better than us historically. That would be a cop out answer to dismiss how they've surpassed us in the SEC. This despite our 20-year head start.

It's an embarrassing reality.
 

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Missouri all-record: .544
USC all-time record: .510

Missouri bowl record: .429 (35 bowls)
USC bowl record: .400 (25 bowls)

Are they better than us historically? Marginally. They are not head and shoulders better than us historically. That would be a cop out answer to dismiss how they've surpassed us in the SEC. This despite our 20-year head start.

It's an embarrassing reality.
The fact that they have been to 10 more bowls than we have AND maintain a better bowl winning percentage AND beat us in a 2005 bowl game AND have a better all-time winning percentage AND have won two division titles to our one in a shorter time frame in the SEC AND own our @$$e$ over the past five years establishes an indisputable WSQ (Worthiness Superiority Quotient). It's not even close.
 

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The fact that they have been to 10 more bowls than we have AND maintain a better bowl winning percentage AND beat us in a 2005 bowl game AND have a better all-time winning percentage AND have won two division titles to our one in a shorter time frame in the SEC AND own our @$$e$ over the past five years establishes an indisputable WSQ (Worthiness Superiority Quotient). It's not even close.

10 more bowls spread out over several decades is not that statistically significant. They still have a losing bowl record and a % not that much better

The bottom line when you break down the numbers OVERALL, historically they are not light-years ahead of us. They’re a bit better. We can’t do this. We can’t dismiss their achievements in the SEC simply because “well, of course, they’re better than us so it was to be expected.”

In the overall scheme of things, we are in the same echelon historically. Fact of the matter is, overall, they have not even been that much better than us the last five years. They just have a way of beating us.

I’d expect to have this conversation in a few years after Texas and OU join.
 
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10 more bowls spread out over several decades is not that statistically significant. They still have a losing bowl record and a % not that much better

The bottom line when you break down the numbers OVERALL, historically they are not light-years ahead of us. They’re a bit better. We can’t do this. We can’t dismiss their achievements in the SEC simply because “well, of course, they’re better than us so it was to be expected.”

In the overall scheme of things, we are in the same echelon historically. Fact of the matter is, overall, they have not even been that much better than us the last five years. They just have a way of beating us.
They are and have been unquestionably better on the gridiron. And then, they are also a more highly regarded school. Our relationship with them is conguent (congruent) to our relationship with Notre Dame, but not as statistically imposing.
 
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They are and have been unquestionably better on the gridiron. And then, they are also a more highly regarded school. Our relationship with them is conguent to our relationship with Notre Dame, but not as statistically imposing.

I acknowledged they have been better. Marginally. No matter how you slice it, a .544 all-time win percentage is marginally better than .510. They have 75 more wins historically over the span over roughly 131 years. Statistically insignificant.

Dogmatic language doesn’t change the numbers.
 

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I acknowledged they have been better. Marginally. No matter how you slice it, a .544 all-time win percentage is marginally better than .510. They have 75 more wins historically over the span over roughly 131 years. Statistically insignificant.

Dogmatic language doesn’t change the numbers.
And the numbers won't change the dogmatic language, either. 😁 They are comprehensively better, regardless.
 

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Interpretation, that's all it is, interpretation. What's the adage? There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
You’re taking a qualitative approach. I’m taking the quantitative.
 

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You’re taking a qualitative approach. I’m taking the quantitative.
I want to explain something to you, out of respect. I wouldn't have pursued this line of reasoning as far as I have had I not been astounded at our fans, and there have been a lot of them, who condemned the admission of Missouri into the SEC and demeaned their program and fanbase.

We came into the league virtually hat in hand, wholly without leverage or attainments. I found it stupefyingly ridiculous
that we should begrudge admission to such a school as they as if we somehow were entitled to stand in their way. Those who took that stance diminished themselves, in my opinion. I've been consistent in my position on this matter, and always will be.

Anyhow, I concede some of the quantitative points you made.
 
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Why is OrangeDog so obsessed with our team? Why do you give a sh*t what we do or don’t do? You need to get laid or something boy. The stress is getting to you.
Cause Orange Dog just watched his Viles get drubbed by one of the least talented Bama Teams 😳 under Saban's Bama coaching Tenure.

How bout those viles???
 
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