My wife's grandfather, a die-hard Carolina football fan who passed away 60+ years ago, always made the familiar comment "yeah but wait until next year". He used to get so frustrated watching mediocre football year after year after year. I've been hearing that same comment most of my life just like many of you have. Will it ever change here? I've finally accepted the fact that it probably won't change in my lifetime either even though we have the support, the funds, and some of the best facilities anywhere. If you disagree, please state why. Happy New Year!
My final (negative) post here for 2023
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I will agree with you that we have what we need. Reality is nobody really knows what’s in store. We have failed to find the right guy at the top. Time will tell if Beamer is that guy. I know clemmy fans that told me they never thought they’d win another NC again after ‘81, and they’d never be nationally relevant again. Especially when they hired Dabo.
I believe that there is always a possibility of brighter days ahead. I hope every year that we will see a permanent turnaround in our football program. However, if you want to do yourself a favor do not ever believe the preseason hype. After 50+ years of supporting Gamecock football I've learned this the hard way. Enjoy whatever success you have but don't believe any of the preseason hype.
I don't believe this BS their fans think they will win the NC ever year .
Do you think 2024 will be Beamer's last season with less than 6 wins.
You can not believe it all you want. But when they were struggling to win 6 every year, they had the same exact mindset most here do. They didn’t think they would ever get it back.
Dablo is an anomaly. Blows the ''we need to hire a coach who is proven winner'' mantra out of the water.
Our facilities are average at best when compared to other SEC schools and the higher ups in the B1G plus schools like Clemp, Notre Dame, USCw and UCLA. Of course I'm already including the 2 new SEC schools. Also, I keep hearing about our fan support but I rarely see the Upper East filled and our finances can't touch schools like UGA, TX and aTm to name just a few. Add the fact we have a unproven head coach, which leads me to conclude we're not making any noise anytime soon if ever.
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South Carolina could have the Taj Mahal of facilities and more NIL money than anyone and would still go 7 and 5 or worse.
Can you quantify your first sentence? Have you physically seen our facilities vs others in the SEC? We have issues, facilities ain't one of them.
I have been to a lot of colleges and seen a decent amount if athletic facilites. I think USC's are above average. I do think USC could improve the environment around Willaims Brice and make it feel more connected to the campus with pedestrian bridges and landscaping. It will take a mult year plan for this to happen. I was at Virgnia Tech when Frank Beamer was getting his run started and I remember the University President saying "we play sports for fun here" They had very low expectations but Frank Beamer was able to build an identity for the program and win games and build support and expectations. The adminstration was patient with him too. I think if USC is patient with Shane Beamer, he can do the same. There mainly needs to be incremental progess each year. It starts with a winning season each year and small upgrades and building continuity and then you get lucky a couple times and win 10 games and a good bowl win. Then you need to find a generational talent that can lift you from 10 wins to higher. It can happen but it needs a steady approach and some luck.Can you quantify your first sentence? Have you physically seen our facilities vs others in the SEC? We have issues, facilities ain't one of them.
There is no appetite for that. Carolina fans are always looking for a savior to come in and magically fix everything and win right away.
I have personal friends who are UPC fans and have always believed that place is special and that football success at UPC is a matter of manifest destiny.
When things weren't going well, they expected leadership to fix it eventually. That mindset has been vindicated on multiple occasions and will be again.
They seek until they find. They were unbowed even when we were beating them five straight. They were resolved as a nation to keep at it until they got it right.
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I believe Clemsons best days are behind them and ours probably won't come unless this portal situation is fixed.
Until then, in the words of the apostle Peter, "I go a fishing ".
That might or might not be. But what is certain is that they won't take irrelevance lying down, and that persistence will result in some good runs throughout the future, even if those are interspersed with mediocrity. That's just how they roll.
That list seems to rank solely the football operations buildings. Our ranking appears to be based upon the relative young age of our place, but even on this list we dropped from #5 to #10 in only one year as other schools build their taj mahals. Anyway, I was talking about our facilities as a whole. W-B is off campus and badly in need of major major upgrades. But the good news is the coming collapse of CFB, which now appears will occur much sooner rather than later, will make it all irrelevant.Can you quantify your first sentence? Have you physically seen our facilities vs others in the SEC? We have issues, facilities ain't one of them.
I think USC has to focus on things under their control and not if Clemson got lucky with Dabo. Maybe they did but he still has two national championships under his belt and he will have 200 wins as a head coach in another 3 to 4 years. He was not an instant success and he also had a lot to learn as a head coach. Clemson fans still wince regularly when he comments on things going on in the world because you can't be sure what is going to come out. Just develop a plan and workit hard every day. It's like saving for retiement versus buying lottery tickets.
Dabo is/was not Clemson's savior. He is but one piece of a much larger puzzle. It's a system dedicated to relevance, prominence and winning. Sustained success takes vision, commitment and patience, from the university president to the AD, to the coaches and everyone who works there.
They have a board of trustees (and AD) who is way more committed to football success than us. That helps.
I'm just looking for a coach with actual head coaching experience. I don't expect to get anyone who was previously a head coach for a P5 program, but that is fine with me.