We shouldn't spend money on a QB if we can't field a defense that can win 6 games. We'd be better off saving money for future cycles.I'm just assuming we'll wind up with either Van Buren or Arnold. Don't much care which one. If we wind up with neither, we're probably screwed. Which wouldn't be too surprising either.
Doesn't seem like the dollars we are tossing around are far fetched.
I'm glad we're so much smarter than all those other schools that actually win football games. **One of our head-in-the-sand fans will quickly tell you that everyone else is recklessly spending and we won't do that. In the interim, we will continue to get skull drug by the Toledo's of the world.
Did Toledo outspend us? Just curious.One of our head-in-the-sand fans will quickly tell you that everyone else is recklessly spending and we won't do that. In the interim, we will continue to get skull drug by the Toledo's of the world.
"Just keep it in the black."I'm glad we're so much smarter than all those other schools that actually win football games. **
Money has to be spent on EVERY position. Why does everyone think it’s an either/or thing?I don't know if he's leaving. I don't know if the numbers I'm hearing are accurate.
But if the numbers are close to accurate, this is my feeling on the situation:
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Until we spend money to improve our defense, what's the point of spending on a QB?
Bingo. MVB has offers in his ear. State potentially has a good portal QB and HS QB coming in, State doesn't have to match high bids from others. Sucks but... the way of the college football world now.with Taylor in the boat and the possibility of a kid like Arnold transferring in, there is no way that we can break the bank for MVB right now. Too many gaps in the roster, and frankly neither one exactly lit the world on the fire this year
Arnold is now scheduled to visit Auburn.Bingo. MVB has offers in his ear. State potentially has a good portal QB and HS QB coming in, State doesn't have to match high bids from others. Sucks but... the way of the college football world now.
Price of poker is way way up. No doubt about it. If we want to compete we have to pay. That's just the way it is.One of our head-in-the-sand fans will quickly tell you that everyone else is recklessly spending and we won't do that. In the interim, we will continue to get skull drug by the Toledo's of the world.
Our dumbass DC shouldWho the 17 believes handing 7 figures to an 18 year old is a good idea?
Who. In. The. Actual. 17????
Well then you have room to up mvb's offer then.Arnold is now scheduled to visit Auburn.
Pretty much anybody who wants to win more than 2 football games. It's not a question if it's a good idea. It's just a fact.Who the 17 believes handing 7 figures to an 18 year old is a good idea?
Who. In. The. Actual. 17????
Doesn't seem like the dollars we are tossing around are far fetched.
We have a finite amount of money. Every dollar spent is a dollar that can't be spent elsewhere.Money has to be spent on EVERY position. Why does everyone think it’s an either/or thing?
You don’t get a QB for free just because he played here last year
Doesn't seem like the dollars we are tossing around are far fetched.
Yeah that sounds like a great way to go 2-10 or 3-9 indefinitely.We need to get out of the portal paying business. Let the blue bloods fight that out. Pay our existing players who did things for us, and get portal players who are hungry for PT and or an FBS spot.
Remember when people ridiculed us for saying that NIL was just another name for pay for play?Remember those 3 months when NIL meant “name, image, likeness”? You know, like Bobs Burgers gives a guy some money to take a picture with Bobs Burger?
Hard for me to comprehend these young kids running around a college campus with a million bucks to spend! We used to roll nickels and go to the Mr Cook on the edge of campus!
Like this past year? How much did we spend again?Yeah that sounds like a great way to go 2-10 or 3-9 indefinitely.
No decent player is playing for free anymore, even the guys without much of a track record.
Oh we're spending money recklessly, just on coaches (Hutzler) and not players.One of our head-in-the-sand fans will quickly tell you that everyone else is recklessly spending and we won't do that. In the interim, we will continue to get skull drug by the Toledo's of the world.
It’s both. You have to have the right coach and be willing to spend. I don’t know if Lebby ends up being the right coach or not but I know for a fact he has no chance if we don’t even try to play the game.Like this past year? How much did we spend again?
Maybe, just maybe….we should get serious about a coach instead of lapping up the sheep ball juice. Just my opinion.
Better get creative. Like hire some good p$ssy to put on them. Apparently that's legal now. Everything isI don't claim to know much, but we have to come up with something other than more money. We are not going to win many bidding wars.
That deal doesn't make or break us either way. We've got a great NIL. It's about the better player and Arnold is who Lebby thinks is better.We have a finite amount of money. Every dollar spent is a dollar that can't be spent elsewhere.
Some teams are one quarterback away from the CFP. They should break the bank for the quarterback position. We are not that team. We could spend all our money on bringing in Tom Brady and not go to a bowl.
Which team wins more?
Neither team is going to the CFP in 2025, but Team B at least gives us a chance to improve.
- Team A: a $1.5 mm QB (MVB or otherwise) with more or less the same defense from 2024
- Team B: Shapen/Taylor/other QB with a defense upgraded with money not spent on a million-dollar QB
Like a Starkville branch of Ma Shoemake’s?Better get creative. Like hire some good p$ssy to put on them. Apparently that's legal now. Everything is
A little classier ladies than Ma Shoemake's had.Like a Starkville branch of Ma Shoemake’s?
We don’t have a great NIL. It’s better than it was a year ago , but we’re so far behind the top schools it’s ridiculous. really, so far the recruiting results aren’t any better than last year. And we see where that got us.That deal doesn't make or break us either way. We've got a great NIL. It's about the better player and Arnold is who Lebby thinks is better.
That’s what I’m hoping anyway.That deal doesn't make or break us either way. We've got a great NIL. It's about the better player and Arnold is who Lebby thinks is better.
He wants to be guaranteed a starting spot. That’s not going to happen with Shapen coming back. Nor should it.Well then you have room to up mvb's offer then.
This is why they hired the GM guy. He better be in that "war room" figuring out the chess pieces.
Are you saying we can’t get a $1.5 mm decision wrong? There are few programs that can make a $1.5 mm wrong move and not suffer for it. We aren’t one of them.That deal doesn't make or break us either way. We've got a great NIL. It's about the better player and Arnold is who Lebby thinks is better.
And if we end up with both we might be screwed as well. Literal crap shoot if we will add what we need on either side of the ball and near certainty that the schedule will be tough and the defense will not.I'm just assuming we'll wind up with either Van Buren or Arnold. Don't much care which one. If we wind up with neither, we're probably screwed. Which wouldn't be too surprising either.