Neeli on thin ice .

[BobPSU92]

Fulbright Scholars production is sweet . We have a lot of smart and talented kids . I’m now going to have a nun hit my hands with a ruler for typing a good word about PSU .

I miss Art. He would never let us get away with posting positive sentiments about PSU.

 

[Erial_Lion]

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[kgilbert78]

Yep, Climate, distance and cost are similar for Pitt.

But, Pitt is urban. What's the numbers at Temple?

 

[OaktonDave]

Looking at stats in Wikipedia, these are the demographics for Penn State:

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White	65%
Foreign national	8%
Hispanic	8%
Asian	7%
Black	6%
Other[a]	6%

These are the numbers for Pennsylvania:

White (non-Hispanic)			76.6%
African American (non-Hispanic)			11.8%
Hispanic or Latino[d]			8.1%
Asian			4.5%
Other			1.3%
Native American			1.1%
Pacific Islander			0.1%

So, as a state University, these numbers tell me that whites are, at best, underrepresented, Asians are overrepresented, Hispanics are about right, and blacks appear underrepresented, although we don’t know what ethnicity the “foreign nationals” are. If all the “foreign nationals” are white (unlikely, but let’s play that way), whites are still underrepresented as a percentage of the state population. The bottom line, to me, is that, numbers-wise, the percentages appear to be reasonably representative of the state population, although the “foreign nationals” (and “other”) could skew the numbers a bit.

Both Step and Erial mentioned, above, that they perceive blacks (and perhaps other minorities?) being uncomfortable with a mostly-white population. That may be. I would be curious to know if anyone is aware of any written complaints, anecdotes, or other input wherein minorities at Penn State say they are made uncomfortable.

Absent that, my perception is that this is all “much ado about nothing.” We are talking a very few percentage points difference between the University population and the State population at large. Beyond that, where is the evidence of racism or even “making people feel uncomfortable?”

The last thing I want to see is more bureaucracy and regulation trying to rectify a situation that appears to need no rectifying.

Why is it that when we talk about representation and diversity we only talk about race? Is that the most important thing about a person? Is a person who grew in a city the same as a person who grew up in the suburbs and the same as a person who grew up in a rural area if they are all the same race? Is a person who grew up poor the same as a person who grew up middle class or wealthy because they're the same race? Why do we lump many widely diverse cultures, experiences, beliefs, etc. into one group like we do with "Asians?" Why do we act like experiences and viewpoints are uniform within races when we know that isn't the case?

 

[Nitt1300]

Why is it that when we talk about representation and diversity we only talk about race? Is that the most important thing about a person? Is a person who grew in a city the same as a person who grew up in the suburbs and the same as a person who grew up in a rural area if they are all the same race? Is a person who grew up poor the same as a person who grew up middle class or wealthy because they're the same race? Why do we lump many widely diverse cultures, experiences, beliefs, etc. into one group like we do with "Asians?" Why do we act like experiences and viewpoints are uniform within races when we know that isn't the case?

probably because of our history

 

[OaktonDave]

probably because of our history

It plays into it, but a lot of it unwillingness to go beyond the superficial or even think about it beyond some limited boxes that show varying levels of connection to reality. One of the most awkward things I've ever witnessed was an ethnic Korean and an ethnic Chinese try to explain to a diversity instructor why it was uncomfortable for them to be told they were just like the Japanese. The instructor was allegedly there to help us understand other cultures, but showed no aptitude for it outside their own lens - they were all Asian, what was the problem?

 

[rigi19040]

Why is it that when we talk about representation and diversity we only talk about race? Is that the most important thing about a person? Is a person who grew in a city the same as a person who grew up in the suburbs and the same as a person who grew up in a rural area if they are all the same race? Is a person who grew up poor the same as a person who grew up middle class or wealthy because they're the same race? Why do we lump many widely diverse cultures, experiences, beliefs, etc. into one group like we do with "Asians?" Why do we act like experiences and viewpoints are uniform within races when we know that isn't the case?

The one group pushing diversity does not care about the other factors. They also dont push for diversity in their own neighborhoods or businesses where they are successful.

 

[Erial_Lion]

The one group pushing diversity does not care about the other factors. They also dont push for diversity in their own neighborhoods or businesses where they are successful.

I will always push for more diversity where it’s lacking, and that includes race, religion, sexual orientation, sex, etc. However, PSU doesn’t have relatively concrete stats on things like religion or Sexual Orientation since they aren’t the type of Census designated stats that are collected on everyone. Having the opportunity to interact and become friends with people from very different backgrounds was a big part of my college “education” that shaped the person I am today.

And I’ve chosen to live in an extremely diverse neighborhood, so I wouldn’t make sweeping generalizations on “they”.