New WR Coach Hired

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Gattis for 4 years
Then Corley and Parker each for a cup of coffee
Then Stubblefield for 3 years
Now the guy from UVA

5 in 9 years probably not all that far from the norm for college coaches anymore.

Breakdown for PSU under CJF:

OC (5 different ones) - Donovan (also TE), Moorhead (also QB), Rahne (also QB), Ciarrocca (also QB), Yurcich (also QB)
DC (3) - Shoop (also Safeties), Pry (also LB), Diaz (also LB)
QB (5) - Rahne, Moorhead, Rahne II, Ciarrocca, Yurcich
RB (2) - Huff (also ST), Seider
WR (5) - Gattis, Corley, Parker, Stubblefield, Hagans
OL (3) - Hand, Limegrover, Trautwein
TE (4) - Donovan, Rahne, Bowen, Howle
DL (2) - Spencer, Scott
LB (2) - Pry, Diaz
CB (1) - Smith
S (3) - Shoop, Banks, Poindexter
ST (3) - Huff, Lorig (when NCAA went to 10 man staffs), Collins (also OLB)

I was just reminded of terrible airbrushing on baseball cards in the ‘70s.

Right up there with the Honus Wagner card. All kidding aside , as a kid that pissed me off when they would mess with the pic, air brush wasn't in the vocabulary back then.
 

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Good pos
Gattis for 4 years
Then Corley and Parker each for a cup of coffee
Then Stubblefield for 3 years
Now the guy from UVA

5 in 9 years probably not all that far from the norm for college coaches anymore.

Breakdown for PSU under CJF:

OC (5 different ones) - Donovan (also TE), Moorhead (also QB), Rahne (also QB), Ciarrocca (also QB), Yurcich (also QB)
DC (3) - Shoop (also Safeties), Pry (also LB), Diaz (also LB)
QB (5) - Rahne, Moorhead, Rahne II, Ciarrocca, Yurcich
RB (2) - Huff (also ST), Seider
WR (5) - Gattis, Corley, Parker, Stubblefield, Hagans
OL (3) - Hand, Limegrover, Trautwein
TE (4) - Donovan, Rahne, Bowen, Howle
DL (2) - Spencer, Scott
LB (2) - Pry, Diaz
CB (1) - Smith
S (3) - Shoop, Banks, Poindexter
ST (3) - Huff, Lorig (when NCAA went to 10 man staffs), Collins (also OLB)
Good breakdown, at worst a push in a couple spots. Improvements in a lot of areas but staff retaining consistency was worse than Alabama in the same time period. I checked that out.

Gattis leaving was a killer at the time, needed a quick replacement that didn't work out which got us regressing in several areas.

Hagans is a solid hire. Some of the coaches mentioned as TS's replacement will be OC's and HC's in their next move.
 

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Gattis for 4 years
Then Corley and Parker each for a cup of coffee
Then Stubblefield for 3 years
Now the guy from UVA

5 in 9 years probably not all that far from the norm for college coaches anymore.

Breakdown for PSU under CJF:

OC (5 different ones) - Donovan (also TE), Moorhead (also QB), Rahne (also QB), Ciarrocca (also QB), Yurcich (also QB)
DC (3) - Shoop (also Safeties), Pry (also LB), Diaz (also LB)
QB (5) - Rahne, Moorhead, Rahne II, Ciarrocca, Yurcich
RB (2) - Huff (also ST), Seider
WR (5) - Gattis, Corley, Parker, Stubblefield, Hagans
OL (3) - Hand, Limegrover, Trautwein
TE (4) - Donovan, Rahne, Bowen, Howle
DL (2) - Spencer, Scott
LB (2) - Pry, Diaz
CB (1) - Smith
S (3) - Shoop, Banks, Poindexter
ST (3) - Huff, Lorig (when NCAA went to 10 man staffs), Collins (also OLB)
I suspect we’re spoiled by prior coaching stability.
 
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Good pos

Good breakdown, at worst a push in a couple spots. Improvements in a lot of areas but staff retaining consistency was worse than Alabama in the same time period. I checked that out.

Gattis leaving was a killer at the time, needed a quick replacement that didn't work out which got us regressing in several areas.

Hagans is a solid hire. Some of the coaches mentioned as TS's replacement will be OC's and HC's in their next move.
Interesting. I wasn't willing to invest the time to compare to other programs - but I would have guessed Alabama had more turnover. That surprises me a bit. Would probably also be interesting to compare to OSU and Michigan. Michigan seems to have a LOT of turnover, but that's just my gut hunch.
 

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Interesting. I wasn't willing to invest the time to compare to other programs - but I would have guessed Alabama had more turnover. That surprises me a bit. Would probably also be interesting to compare to OSU and Michigan. Michigan seems to have a LOT of turnover, but that's just my gut hunch.
Keep in mind, there are two types of turnover. There is probably at least one more, but it's better to keep things simple.
 

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Interesting. I wasn't willing to invest the time to compare to other programs - but I would have guessed Alabama had more turnover. That surprises me a bit. Would probably also be interesting to compare to OSU and Michigan. Michigan seems to have a LOT of turnover, but that's just my gut hunch.
Interesting enough Gattis and Huff were two who coached both along with OB who technically doesn't count. Checked another source which has Alabama at 32 and PSU at 28 stay tuned but it's close. Alabama had a track of hiring former HC's as OC's and losing coaches who became HC's . The comparative site still has the PSU numbers but doesn't have the Alabama numbers that i got.
 
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I think some people are just natural complainers. It’s their role in life to never see anything positive. Nevermind giving the guy a chance before forming an opinion. Nope. Complain from the start.
 

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tj houshmandzadeh was on some sports talk radio show last week and he was saying that most WR coaches at all levels are sub-par. Said it was because it was the position most likely to have a coach from a different offensive position coaching it or it was made the "head recruiter" position so coaching WRs was secondary. In other words, are you bringing in a good RB coach to head recruiting but already have a good RB coach for the actual position? Let the new guy be in charge of the WRs. Good assistant QB coach who you don't want to see go elsewhere? Make him head WR coach for awhile. Interestingly, said the majority of the top WR recruits that flame out are a result of bad coaching; talent is there, bad WR coaches who can't teach the skills necessary to thrive at the next level are to blame most of the time. Food for thought.
 
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tj houshmandzadeh was on some sports talk radio show last week and he was saying that most WR coaches at all levels are sub-par. Said it was because it was the position most likely to have a coach from a different offensive position coaching it. In other words, are you bringing in a good RB coach to recruit but already have a good RB coach for the actual position? Let the new guy be in charge of the WRs. Good assistant QB coach who you don't want to see go elsewhere? Make him head WR coach for awhile. Interestingly, said the majority of the top WR recruits that flame out are a result of bad coaching; talent is there, bad WR coaches who can't teach the skills necessary to thrive at the next level are to blame most of the time. Food for thought.

LOL. Mike McQueary, a college QB, was our WR coach for seven years.
 

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I think some people are just natural complainers. It’s their role in life to never see anything positive. Nevermind giving the guy a chance before forming an opinion. Nope. Complain from the start.
It's never a good idea to make any decisions, let alone a staff hire, without the approval of the BWICAC.
 

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Gattis for 4 years
Then Corley and Parker each for a cup of coffee
Then Stubblefield for 3 years
Now the guy from UVA

5 in 9 years probably not all that far from the norm for college coaches anymore.

Breakdown for PSU under CJF:

OC (5 different ones) - Donovan (also TE), Moorhead (also QB), Rahne (also QB), Ciarrocca (also QB), Yurcich (also QB)
DC (3) - Shoop (also Safeties), Pry (also LB), Diaz (also LB)
QB (5) - Rahne, Moorhead, Rahne II, Ciarrocca, Yurcich
RB (2) - Huff (also ST), Seider
WR (5) - Gattis, Corley, Parker, Stubblefield, Hagans
OL (3) - Hand, Limegrover, Trautwein
TE (4) - Donovan, Rahne, Bowen, Howle
DL (2) - Spencer, Scott
LB (2) - Pry, Diaz
CB (1) - Smith
S (3) - Shoop, Banks, Poindexter
ST (3) - Huff, Lorig (when NCAA went to 10 man staffs), Collins (also OLB)
I long for Moorhead.
 

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Good hire! Consistent with CJF's emphasis on stability, family, as well as recruiting and coaching abilities. Experience in 'the league' doesn't hurt either.
 
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He looks like Vince Carter.
Well if he can also jump like Vince Carter, then...well that would...having a Vince Carter vertical would help to...hmm...well I suppose that wouldn't make much difference in his new role at all...thought I was onto something... :sneaky: 🤷‍♂️ ;);)
 
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I kinda like the hire and hope that either he or Poindexter become the next PSU HC…..hopefully sooner than later.
 
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Gattis for 4 years
Then Corley and Parker each for a cup of coffee
Then Stubblefield for 3 years
Now the guy from UVA

5 in 9 years probably not all that far from the norm for college coaches anymore.

Breakdown for PSU under CJF:

OC (5 different ones) - Donovan (also TE), Moorhead (also QB), Rahne (also QB), Ciarrocca (also QB), Yurcich (also QB)
DC (3) - Shoop (also Safeties), Pry (also LB), Diaz (also LB)
QB (5) - Rahne, Moorhead, Rahne II, Ciarrocca, Yurcich
RB (2) - Huff (also ST), Seider
WR (5) - Gattis, Corley, Parker, Stubblefield, Hagans
OL (3) - Hand, Limegrover, Trautwein
TE (4) - Donovan, Rahne, Bowen, Howle
DL (2) - Spencer, Scott
LB (2) - Pry, Diaz
CB (1) - Smith
S (3) - Shoop, Banks, Poindexter
ST (3) - Huff, Lorig (when NCAA went to 10 man staffs), Collins (also OLB)
As much as we’d like to forget about Galiano, he was the ST coach before Lorig
 
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Just my own guess but this is a preemptive stake in Virginia recruiting before Pry and Elliott can get the in state schools a foothold. With Brown doing well in NC, probably helps there as well. Any improvement in the DMV and Jersey is great too.

The timing indicates something went on behind the scenes. 2 portal guys commit after we fire Stubbs before we pull a 10 year UVA coach (and alum)?
If PSU is hiring assistant coaches due to their perceived ability to out-recruit VT and UVA in Virginia, PSU has some serious problems. Fortunately, they are not.
 

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If PSU is hiring assistant coaches due to their perceived ability to out-recruit VT and UVA in Virginia, PSU has some serious problems. Fortunately, they are not.
It’s not as much about those 2 schools as the high end talent from the Tidewater, Hampton, VA Beach area ending up in the SEC or ACC. That area has always produced D1 talent.
 

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If PSU is hiring assistant coaches due to their perceived ability to out-recruit VT and UVA in Virginia, PSU has some serious problems. Fortunately, they are not.

VT becoming a 9-10 win team coincides with the Dark Years.

UVA under Welsh being a 7+ win team started right after our last national title.

You best believe that the top 10 HS kids in Virginia are kids we need and you don't want to risk losing them to recovering in state schools. Hagens was the only coach with VA ties on Mendenhall's staff and Fuente disregarded the state altogether.
 

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Oh boy. Don’t type that into your search engine.
In the 1990's the school at which I was employed (at that point as AD) generally had excellent basketball teams. Home games meant a packed gym of students and loyal local adults. We had a very talented and popular point guard named .....you got it Morehead. The chants of More head were incessant and all I could do was appear not to understand what was happening.
 
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