NIL federal legislation - what do you think people want?

blion72

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this is a very common among the talking heads in the media, but never is it stated what they want. There are already laws, regulations and case law for trademarks and property rights governing both organizations and individuals name, image and persona. Numerous case law has covered personal image, defamation, copying, etc. This law applies federally and locally. NIL around pro athletes have used this for years. What is needed that would be unique to college athletes?

On ESPNU they seemed to be harping on the fact there was no governing body for college football, and it needed a czar. I believe that is why the NCAA was created, to govern college sports. So since the NCAA is nothing but a body that the colleges themselves have established and agreed to be their governing body, wouldn't that be the simplest solution for the college football czar? So far, the legal challenges against the NCAA have been anti-trust (i.e. Allston case finding was that the NCAA could not limit academically oriented funding to scholarship athletes). If you want a simple and fast solution legislatively, why not just have congress give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption. Then they can make the rules in line with what their board (Presidents) want. That would be fast and not require much effort. Any other solution would seem to take years of fighting, as it would be clean start.

I know the NCAA is not a good solution to Penn State, but that is also partly on how our leadership failed to fight. Somehow Tom Mars was able to threaten a court case against the NCAA to get a QB transfer instant eligibility and the NCAA backed down. Our leadership did not have the wit and fortitude to even attempt similar action. That does not mean the NCAA may not be a good organizational solution. If not the NCAA, then some other startup organization that will wind up looking like the NCAA but only for CFB.
 

Monty2007

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Personal opinion, the NCAA needs to figure this out themselves. Besides, Congress can't even agree on policy our the most important issues facing this country. We don't need to make this a Blue/Red issue.
 

GrimReaper

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this is a very common among the talking heads in the media, but never is it stated what they want. There are already laws, regulations and case law for trademarks and property rights governing both organizations and individuals name, image and persona. Numerous case law has covered personal image, defamation, copying, etc. This law applies federally and locally. NIL around pro athletes have used this for years. What is needed that would be unique to college athletes?

On ESPNU they seemed to be harping on the fact there was no governing body for college football, and it needed a czar. I believe that is why the NCAA was created, to govern college sports. So since the NCAA is nothing but a body that the colleges themselves have established and agreed to be their governing body, wouldn't that be the simplest solution for the college football czar? So far, the legal challenges against the NCAA have been anti-trust (i.e. Allston case finding was that the NCAA could not limit academically oriented funding to scholarship athletes). If you want a simple and fast solution legislatively, why not just have congress give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption. Then they can make the rules in line with what their board (Presidents) want. That would be fast and not require much effort. Any other solution would seem to take years of fighting, as it would be clean start.

I know the NCAA is not a good solution to Penn State, but that is also partly on how our leadership failed to fight. Somehow Tom Mars was able to threaten a court case against the NCAA to get a QB transfer instant eligibility and the NCAA backed down. Our leadership did not have the wit and fortitude to even attempt similar action. That does not mean the NCAA may not be a good organizational solution. If not the NCAA, then some other startup organization that will wind up looking like the NCAA but only for CFB.
You grossly underestimate the degree to which universities are unpopular on Capitol Hill. Congress just allowed an almost 30 year exemption for the Ivy League to expire. There is NFW they are going to grant one to the NCAA or any other organization to allow them to control compensation to students.
 

Midnighter

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this is a very common among the talking heads in the media, but never is it stated what they want. There are already laws, regulations and case law for trademarks and property rights governing both organizations and individuals name, image and persona. Numerous case law has covered personal image, defamation, copying, etc. This law applies federally and locally. NIL around pro athletes have used this for years. What is needed that would be unique to college athletes?

On ESPNU they seemed to be harping on the fact there was no governing body for college football, and it needed a czar. I believe that is why the NCAA was created, to govern college sports. So since the NCAA is nothing but a body that the colleges themselves have established and agreed to be their governing body, wouldn't that be the simplest solution for the college football czar? So far, the legal challenges against the NCAA have been anti-trust (i.e. Allston case finding was that the NCAA could not limit academically oriented funding to scholarship athletes). If you want a simple and fast solution legislatively, why not just have congress give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption. Then they can make the rules in line with what their board (Presidents) want. That would be fast and not require much effort. Any other solution would seem to take years of fighting, as it would be clean start.

I know the NCAA is not a good solution to Penn State, but that is also partly on how our leadership failed to fight. Somehow Tom Mars was able to threaten a court case against the NCAA to get a QB transfer instant eligibility and the NCAA backed down. Our leadership did not have the wit and fortitude to even attempt similar action. That does not mean the NCAA may not be a good organizational solution. If not the NCAA, then some other startup organization that will wind up looking like the NCAA but only for CFB.

Part of the NCAA’s mandate is to ensure a fair playing field; there’s simply no way to do that with the income disparity certain programs/conferences have over others. There is no uniformity when it comes to dorms, training facilities, educational assistance, etc. Every state has different NiL rules which may or may not be advantageous to some player/programs. It’s chaos right now and NIL just adds to it. The NCAA should come up with a uniform NIL policy, allow schools to run NIL programs and sign players to contracts. Get rid of academic eligibility requirements and allow players to ‘major in football’ if they choose.
 
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Psu00

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Congress should stay out of it.

Someone at the ncaa needs to actual do their job and put together the guidelines/ policy. The longer they allow the Wild West the worse it will be to recover and prevent the great disparity among schools.
 
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Nitt1300

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You grossly underestimate the degree to which universities are unpopular on Capitol Hill. Congress just allowed an almost 30 year exemption for the Ivy League to expire. There is NFW they are going to grant one to the NCAA or any other organization to allow them to control compensation to students.
the last thing they want is an educated populace
 

GrimReaper

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Congress should stay out of it.

Someone at the ncaa needs to actual do their job and put together the guidelines/ policy. The longer they allow the Wild West the worse it will be to recover and prevent the great disparity among schools.
And get them thrown out by the courts. NCAA had its chances and pissed them away.
 

Psu00

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And get them thrown out by the courts. NCAA had its chances and pissed them away.
You can make a policy that doesn’t get thrown out and at the same time doesn’t allow open buying of players by schools like A&M and Georgia.
 

GrimReaper

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You can make a policy that doesn’t get thrown out and at the same time doesn’t allow open buying of players by schools like A&M and Georgia.
So someone is going to make a policy that limits the ability of players to earn money on NIL? That's gone in 3, 2, 1...........
 
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