NIL money - national vs local

[blion72]

if the future of CFB is a separated model where the players are paid to play, have a union, CBA, roster limits, salary cap = NFL model, then that would eliminate outside pay except for NIL. There would be no role for a collective as that is pay to play now, and any funds they would try and give players would go against the cap.

That leaves NIL, which in its legal form has nothing to do with pay to play. This is the Dr Pepper, Wendy's, etc promotions. In that world the big money is national not local. Wendy's hired Caleb for commercials but they are not in LA. How much NIL money is really local where location could make a difference? Seems like we are doom and gloom about State College not having enough local NIL, but maybe it does not matter.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

if the future of CFB is a separated model where the players are paid to play, have a union, CBA, roster limits, salary cap = NFL model, then that would eliminate outside pay except for NIL. There would be no role for a collective as that is pay to play now, and any funds they would try and give players would go against the cap.

That leaves NIL, which in its legal form has nothing to do with pay to play. This is the Dr Pepper, Wendy's, etc promotions. In that world the big money is national not local. Wendy's hired Caleb for commercials but they are not in LA. How much NIL money is really local where location could make a difference? Seems like we are doom and gloom about State College not having enough local NIL, but maybe it does not matter.

Yes, NIL does and will continue to matter.

The courts have ruled (or will rule) that the ability of players to be paid NIL money cannot be limited.

Thus, as long as there are boosters, there is nothing to prevent the boosters from contributing money to an NIL model and paying players those funds over and above whatever salary the players may be paid. The more desired the player, the more funds he'll receive through NIL.

One of the most compensated, commercial NFL athletes was/is Peyton Manning. The only difference between his commercial deals and what we'll continue to see in college football was/is the source of the funds. Peyton got paid by the commercial organizations he represented with no contributions from fans.

College players will get paid by some legit commercial businesses (Wendy's, Dr. Pepper), etc. However, IN ADDITION, they'll get paid by NIL boosters simply because that is the culture of big time college athletics. Strangely, those same boosters would scoff at the idea of paying Peyton Manning out of their own pockets.

 

[BobPSU92]

“future of CFB”

 

[bdgan]

“future of CFB”

Me no like. Do they have to be students? Same admission standards as other students?

 

[blion72]

Yes, NIL does and will continue to matter.

The courts have ruled (or will rule) that the ability of players to be paid NIL money cannot be limited.

Thus, as long as there are boosters, there is nothing to prevent the boosters from contributing money to an NIL model and paying players those funds over and above whatever salary the players may be paid. The more desired the player, the more funds he'll receive through NIL.

One of the most compensated, commercial NFL athletes was/is Peyton Manning. The only difference between his commercial deals and what we'll continue to see in college football was/is the source of the funds. Peyton got paid by the commercial organizations he represented with no contributions from fans.

College players will get paid by some legit commercial businesses (Wendy's, Dr. Pepper), etc. However, IN ADDITION, they'll get paid by NIL boosters simply because that is the culture of big time college athletics. Strangely, those same boosters would scoff at the idea of paying Peyton Manning out of their own pockets.

not sure how there can be pay from collectives that is like supplemental pay. That would wind up hitting the salary cap. you cannot do that in the NFL due to the cap. Peyton can have his Nationwide commercial and that is NIL. but fans could not get together and pay him extra comp.

With CBA and the presumed anti-trust immunity that could not happen.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

not sure how there can be pay from collectives that is like supplemental pay. That would wind up hitting the salary cap. you cannot do that in the NFL due to the cap. Peyton can have his Nationwide commercial and that is NIL. but fans could not get together and pay him extra comp.

With CBA and the presumed anti-trust immunity that could not happen.

" ... that is like supplemental pay."

It won't be considered supplemental pay. Here's why:

Player A receives $xxx,xxx in salary from the team's $xx,xxx,xxx total payroll cap.

Big Bucks Booster Bob: "Hey, Player A ... if you come down to my car dealership to sign autographed pictures for a couple of hours on Sunday, I'll pay you $xxx,xxx".

That's NOT "supplemental pay". That is NIL. There is absolutely NOTHING that can be done to stop that scenario.

Revenue sharing will set the salaries. "Booster bags (i.e. NIL)" will be the differentiator between school A and school B ... just like now.

 

[SleepyLion]

" ... that is like supplemental pay."

It won't be considered supplemental pay. Here's why:

Player A receives $xxx,xxx in salary from the team's $xx,xxx,xxx total payroll cap.

Big Bucks Booster Bob: "Hey, Player A ... if you come down to my car dealership to sign autographed pictures for a couple of hours on Sunday, I'll pay you $xxx,xxx".

That's NOT "supplemental pay". That is NIL. There is absolutely NOTHING that can be done to stop that scenario.

Revenue sharing will set the salaries. "Booster bags (i.e. NIL)" will be the differentiator between school A and school B ... just like now.

The NFL has a salary cap. But players still have local and national NIL (often called endorsements) deals. This is what you are talking about and there is nothing to stop it in college.