NIL $$$$

Midnighter

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Couple things to keep in mind:

The TV viewership ratings changed a couple of years ago (2020-ish?) to include "non=-traditional" viewers (They have some actual term for it, which I can't recall, but basically people other than those sitting down at home and watching the game on TV).
So all the numbers since that time are inflated over the numbers pre-2020ish.

That said, for the major bowls (NY6) one can expect to see bumps for the next few years as they all become "playoff" games - as opposed to what they are now.

The real juice is how many folks watch throughout the total season. I don't know what those figures are, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are up somewhat (certainly with the new calculation metrics, and more time slots in use, and maybe even without that). I expect any "drop offs" will hit TV viewership numbers last (a lagging item) - and actual attendance will be the "canary in the coal mine" indicator - if there is indeed a drop off.

Peach Bowl was a modest 7.7 million. Lower than the blowout FSU/Georgia bowl.
 

GrimReaper

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Peach Bowl was a modest 7.7 million. Lower than the blowout FSU/Georgia bowl.
Don't be surprised if Michigan-Washington garners fewer viewers than Michigan-Alabama. College football viewership, unlike that of the NFL,, can be weird that way. Not predicting that it will happen, but won't be terribly surprised if it does.
 
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psu31trap

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Not sure how accurate this is but donors at Texas pays all starting Offensive Linemen a $50,000 bonus per year. Not bad.
 

PSUJam

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Scrounged up enough money to go down to the Skeller for a case of green grenades(rolling rock pony bottles) and chase drunk chicks!
You trying to keep them away at the end of the night!

chicks GIF
 
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CvilleElksCoach

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Do these players have to pay taxes on the $$$$ they get from NIL? Also, does a Happy Valley United have to pay? Thanks fellas
Yes players receive a 1099 from hvu for nil activities from which they, hvu, were involved. If the players had other nil activities the expectation is that that institution prove the 1099. Yrs the players need to pay taxes and some pay quarterly estimated taxes.

also yes hvu pays tax on their income, the 15% cut they receive.
 

blion72

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No, there is no way. PSU isn't spending the money, it comes from (potentially) a myriad of third-parties, none of whom are obligated to disclose how much they've spent.
yes - two buckets. groups of people and some businesses contribute to a private company aka collective and that company dispenses pay for play money (not NIL). supposedly Penn State is arms length on where the $$$ go, but who knows. However these are private companies so not sure there is any visibility. they sign contracts with the players who they pay to play including inducement to attend school. all against ncaa rules but apparently not enforceable.

then there are some actual NIL $$$ for a few players - i.e. player sells their personal brand to a corporate sponsor. Wendys, Dr Pepper, etc. The sponsor wants the player's image in their ads - don't care about them attending a school. many of these are public companies and you might find what those deals are worth.
 

blion72

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Do these players have to pay taxes on the $$$$ they get from NIL? Also, does a Happy Valley United have to pay? Thanks fellas
these players pay taxes like the rest of us. I think the one Florida collective is paying the players as contractors, so the player likely needs an LLC or similar to take payment. They need a tax accountant and lawyer to assist. The collective has a tax return also - probably non-profit. They could get in a lot of legal trouble here if they try and evade taxation. Handing a plyer an envelope with $$$ could put both the player and company execs in prison. IRS wanted to some auditing - this would be a great place for them to go.

the real NIL $$$ are also taxable - Caleb likely has a pretty good size tax bill for Dr Pepper deal.

all part of being an entrepreneur.
 
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PSUJam

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these players pay taxes like the rest of us. I think the one Florida collective is paying the players as contractors, so the player likely needs an LLC or similar to take payment. They need a tax accountant and lawyer to assist. The collective has a tax return also - probably non-profit. They could get in a lot of legal trouble here if they try and evade taxation. Handing a plyer an envelope with $$$ could put both the player and company execs in prison. IRS wanted to some auditing - this would be a great place for them to go.

the real NIL $$$ are also taxable - Caleb likely has a pretty good size tax bill for Dr Pepper deal.

all part of being an entrepreneur.
So they pay taxes. Who cares? Are you a retired IRS agent or just someone obsessed with taxation?
 

GrimReaper

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So they pay taxes. Who cares? Are you a retired IRS agent or just someone obsessed with taxation?
Life is pretty simple: get paid and pay taxes; don't get paid and pay no taxes; get paid, pay no taxes and go to jail.
 
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leinbacker

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No, there is no way. PSU isn't spending the money, it comes from (potentially) a myriad of third-parties, none of whom are obligated to disclose how much they've spent.
Or how much they pay their board officers, admin costs, travel costs,, where they spend it etc. but hey, some here will try to shame others into giving them their hard earned money.
 
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