Now that it seems we're officially in the market for an OC...who ya got?

18IsTheMan

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Really hope we don’t go for Briles. Don’t want another SEC castoff.
 

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Eh, not too sure about Briles. Arkansas fans are more eager to be rid of him than our fans were to be rid of Satterfield.
Briles would be a top notch hire. His Ark offense was #5 in the SEC this year in a "down" year. Every offense he has ever directed is balanced and very productive.
 
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Briles would be a top notch hire. His Ark offense was #5 in the SEC this year in a "down" year. Every offense he has ever directed is balanced and very productive.

Eh, I dunno. It just makes me skittish to grab someone that another school is trying to get rid of.
 

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I would be shocked and disappointed if Shane had not developed a "short" list of who he wanted to replace Satterfield after the 2021 season.
We both know he has and keeps a list, likely for every major position. I'm sure the OC list has been active for quite a while.
 

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disagree....somebody with a track record. It's not like we're hard to please as a fanbase....we just want competency and competitiveness within the conference. You have to hire a talent at OC - not a hope. We need to hit the mark with this, and I think our crowd, the game atmosphere and momentum could help big time in getting the right hire.
You hit on a good point there. While some well-established programs can take more of a chance on an OC (hope), we need to get this right at this crucial juncture in the Beamer era IMO.
 

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Our QB commit for 23/24 has stated that Beamer conveyed to him they wouldn't hire a new OC until several weeks after the bowl. We may have to wait a bit. That would be mid-jan.

Maybe the bowl game is an audition for Freddy or Stepp?
 

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I was all for keeping Satterfield. However ,apparently he decided to leave on his own. If that is really what happened Shane should take advantage of the situation. I like the idea of making Kitchens the interim OC for the bowl game. It's pretty clear something changed after the Florida game. Some think Kitchens was calling the plays. Whomever we get the number one task is convincing Rattler to stay for one more season.

If Kitchens is named interim OC, then we'll all know who called the plays the last two games. That will also be the key to keeping Rattler one more season, IMO.
 

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Eh, I dunno. It just makes me skittish to grab someone that another school is trying to get rid of.
I have enormous respect for you and your views. And what you say there, makes a lot of sense to me. What I don't understand is why Arkansas feels that way. I look at Briles numbers this year and see:

Total Offense: #27
Rushing Offense: # 9
Completion Percentage: # 32
Passes Had Intercepted: tied @ # 19
Passing Yards Per Completion: # 31
Team Passing Efficiency: #16

He certainly runs a balanced offense that Beamer wants. Why Arkansas has soured on him is a mystery to me.

Their defense has sucked. Souring on their DC is understandable.
 

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I have enormous respect for you and your views. And what you say there, makes a lot of sense to me. What I don't understand is why Arkansas feels that way. I look at Briles numbers this year and see:

Total Offense: #27
Rushing Offense: # 9
Completion Percentage: # 32
Passes Had Intercepted: tied @ # 19
Passing Yards Per Completion: # 31
Team Passing Efficiency: #16

He certainly runs a balanced offense that Beamer wants. Why Arkansas has soured on him is a mystery to me.

Their defense has sucked. Souring on their DC is understandable.

I wonder how those numbers compare to Satterfield, and if that's why Nebraska is "cautiously optimistic" with their hire?

(And yes, that's my way of trying to get you to look up the numbers)

I just know our total offense, and it was 77 or 75 compared to Arkansas's 27.
 

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Arkansas offensive TDs this year: 46
South Carolina offensive TDs this year: 47

No thanks. Not really even a lateral move.
 

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Doubtful he comes here anyway, and even if he does, he would bolt at the first opportunity. Wants to be a head coach.
 

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I wonder how those numbers compare to Satterfield, and if that's why Nebraska is "cautiously optimistic" with their hire?

(And yes, that's my way of trying to get you to look up the numbers)

I just know our total offense, and it was 77 or 75 compared to Arkansas's 27.
In the order of the categories that I listed, we are:
77
106
9
tied @ 107
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30
 

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I wonder how those numbers compare to Satterfield, and if that's why Nebraska is "cautiously optimistic" with their hire?
Since Nebraska fans are "cautiously optimistic" about their new OC, I am ecstatic for them on their new hire.
 
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I want the phantom genius play caller that is already on staff that won the Tennessee and Clemson games for us.

Did he suddenly disappear or something? LOL
 

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In the order of the categories that I listed, we are:
77
106
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tied @ 107
58
30

So, it seems he's better at almost every category. And his fans are still growing tired of him. I don't know if it's a big enough improvement to really get excited about.
 

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Why would anybody be excited about bringing in an OC that scored less? Fewer points isn't an improvement, and that's the only stat that really matters in the end.
 

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So, it seems he's better at almost every category. And his fans are still growing tired of him. I don't know if it's a big enough improvement to really get excited about.
For me, when it's all said and done, I am going to look at Total Offense. That's the broadest measure of an offense's productivity. Field position and special teams are not equal for all teams. Opportunities on offense generally are.
 
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For me, when it's all said and done, I am going to look at Total Offense. That's the broadest measure of an offense's productivity. Field position and special teams are not equal for all teams. Opportunities on offense generally are.

I agree. Which would put him 50 spots higher. Okay, I could become more supportive the more we look.
 
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We MUST have the phantom play caller. All y'all claimed someone else on staff was calling those last 2 games.

Would be the dumbest thing ever not to hire that guy.
 

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I have enormous respect for you and your views. And what you say there, makes a lot of sense to me. What I don't understand is why Arkansas feels that way. I look at Briles numbers this year and see:

Total Offense: #27
Rushing Offense: # 9
Completion Percentage: # 32
Passes Had Intercepted: tied @ # 19
Passing Yards Per Completion: # 31
Team Passing Efficiency: #16

He certainly runs a balanced offense that Beamer wants. Why Arkansas has soured on him is a mystery to me.

Their defense has sucked. Souring on their DC is understandable.
How were the red zone numbers? To me that’s a huge indicator.
 

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How were the red zone numbers? To me that’s a huge indicator.

You are right. Our red zone offense was ranked higher, which probably explains why we had the slight edge in TDs.

Sorry, that's not an upgrade. Nobody gives a **** about running up and down the field if you score less.

Pass. Still holding out for phantom play caller.
 

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Lots of offenses look good when there is a lot of field in front of them, but not so good when the field gets short. There is no one stat you can use to judge an offense.
Points scored is a pretty good stat to judge an offense. At the end of the day, it's the only one that really matters.
 

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Points scored is a pretty good stat to judge an offense. At the end of the day, it's the only one that really matters.
Not necessarily. The Texas A&M and Georgia State games quickly come to mind where special teams either scored or came close to scoring. Clemson's 30 points last Saturday looks fairly good for the offense at first glance until you remember that their defense returned a pass interception for a touchdown.
 

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I have enormous respect for you and your views. And what you say there, makes a lot of sense to me. What I don't understand is why Arkansas feels that way. I look at Briles numbers this year and see:

Total Offense: #27
Rushing Offense: # 9
Completion Percentage: # 32
Passes Had Intercepted: tied @ # 19
Passing Yards Per Completion: # 31
Team Passing Efficiency: #16

He certainly runs a balanced offense that Beamer wants. Why Arkansas has soured on him is a mystery to me.

Their defense has sucked. Souring on their DC is understandable.
yes....if any one person in the state of Arkansas wants rid of K. Briles.....let them be stupid and we will take their "cast off". He will be a top 3 OC in Carolina history after 2-3 years. Pairing him back up with Stepp would be dynamite, too.
BTW- he's doing that in the SEC West....fairly tough league.
 
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Arkansas offensive TDs this year: 46
South Carolina offensive TDs this year: 47

No thanks. Not really even a lateral move.
If you are comparing Kendal Briles and Satterfield and consider them similar....you are off your rocker. Comparing them in coaching talent, resume, ingenuity...probably even body oder...there is no contest.
 

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Not necessarily. The Texas A&M and Georgia State games quickly come to mind where special teams either scored or came close to scoring. Clemson's 30 points last Saturday looks fairly good for the offense at first glance until you remember that their defense returned a pass interception for a touchdown.
We were talking about offensive stats, not team stats. Points scored by the offense.
 

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If you are comparing Kendal Briles and Satterfield and consider them similar....you are off your rocker. Comparing them in coaching talent, resume, ingenuity...probably even body oder...there is no contest.

I was just comparing them on that completely useless stats of how many points their offense scored this year.