Official '24 Eagles - Commanders G2 thread

LionJim

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I’ve read that this was Smith’s first drop of the season. Incredible. And the way he owned it postgame, I got nothing but respect for the guy.
 

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words mean things. the ref didn't MISS the punch. he was clearly there staring at it happen, and decided to throw the flag on the person using words, and not the person using his hands. i think anyone without any bias can clearly see the difference and knows how egregious that is

your point is taken though.
Exactly. Same happened with Slay and Mitchell last week.
 

nittanyfan333

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Exactly. Same happened with Slay and Mitchell last week.

i didnt' see any video of the refs staring at slay and mitchell throw punches. it was a melee to me, and I can see why it was difficult for the refs in that instance. 10+ bodies going at it. that is an example of "missed" the punches (that clearly happened. i do think it should have been offsetting last week. Slay and mitchell threw, then others started throwing. action, reaction. and yes, replay should have been used for offsetting penalties)

i think the big difference was the presence of a ref yesterday staring at the situation from beginning to end and CHOOSING who gets the flag.

two different situations


EDIT: I just rewatched it, and yeah, the ref was right there when Slay started throwing punches. i retract my stance on that fight and Slay should have been flagged in the moment. no excuse to miss that.

that said, at the end of the day, we're talking about a dude throwing someone out of the club after a play (unnecessary roughness) and his response throwing hands (unnecesary roughness - should have offset) compared to a dude jawing at someone (happens every game) and the dude responds with punches (unnecessary roughness) And the dude that did NOT/NOT use his hands gets the foul. take last week and your emotion from it out of the picture. you can't see the difference?
 
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i didnt' see any video of the refs staring at slay and mitchell throw punches. it was a melee to me, and I can see why it was difficult for the refs in that instance. 10+ bodies going at it. that is an example of "missed" the punches (that clearly happened. i do think it should have been offsetting last week. Slay and mitchell threw, then others started throwing. action, reaction. and yes, replay should have been used for offsetting penalties)

i think the big difference was the presence of a ref yesterday staring at the situation from beginning to end and CHOOSING who gets the flag.

two different situations
 

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i didnt' see any video of the refs staring at slay and mitchell throw punches. it was a melee to me, and I can see why it was difficult for the refs in that instance. 10+ bodies going at it. that is an example of "missed" the punches (that clearly happened. i do think it should have been offsetting last week. Slay and mitchell threw, then others started throwing. action, reaction. and yes, replay should have been used for offsetting penalties)

i think the big difference was the presence of a ref yesterday staring at the situation from beginning to end and CHOOSING who gets the flag.

two different situations
I think you have your green and white glasses on.
 

LionJim

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I was working on prime elements in the integral domain of Gaussian Integers. 2 is prime as an integer but not as a Gaussian integer because 2=(1+i)(1-i). Similarly, 5 is prime as an integer but not as a Gaussian Integer because 5=(1+2i)(1-2i). That was my field, Commutative Algebra. These are easy examples; I had been stuck on primes which are 3 plus a multiple of 4, like 3, 7, 11, 19…these are always prime as Gaussian Integers but I couldn’t find a proof for a couple days. Found the proof at around when the 4th quarter started, thought of a trick. Italics are unintentional.
When you have an odd prime p you always get a remainder of either 1 or 3 when you divide by 4. Notation: Remainder of 1: p=1 (mod 4). Remainder of 3: p=3 (mod 4).

A theorem of Fermat says that every prime equal to 1 (mod 4) is the sum of two squares. Witness:

5=2^2 + 1^2.
13=2^2 + 3^2.
17=4^2 + 1^2.
29=5^2 + 2^2. You always have a sum of two squares! Cool theorem. Why is it relevant here? Because this gives us:

5=(2+i)(2-i) not a prime as a Gaussian Integer.
13=(2+3i)(2-3i) not a prime as a GI.
17=(4+i)(4-i) not a prime as a GI.

if p=1 (mod 4), then p is the sum of two squares:
p=x^2 + y^2=(x+yi)(x-yi) not a prime as a GI.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
 

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When you have an odd prime p you always get a remainder of either 1 or 3 when you divide by 4. Notation: Remainder of 1: p=1 (mod 4). Remainder of 3: p=3 (mod 4).

A theorem of Fermat says that every prime equal to 1 (mod 4) is the sum of two squares. Witness:

5=2^2 + 1^2.
13=2^2 + 3^2.
17=4^2 + 1^2.
29=5^2 + 2^2. You always have a sum of two squares! Cool theorem. Why is it relevant here? Because this gives us:

5=(2+i)(2-i) not a prime as a Gaussian Integer.
13=(2+3i)(2-3i) not a prime as a GI.
17=(4+i)(4-i) not a prime as a GI.

if p=1 (mod 4), then p is the sum of two squares:
p=x^2 + y^2=(x+yi)(x-yi) not a prime as a GI.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
yes well how does this explain why Smitty dropped that ball?
 

LB99

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I edited my post to reflect such. probably while you were posting yours.
Slay should have been ejected. The rules are clear as day. Throwing a punch is a flag and an ejection. It was an egregious non call. Not to mention Slay must be the dumbest mother effer out there. Throwing punches at a 280 lb man with his helmet on? Was he looking to break his own hand? It is somewhat unclear whether Mitchell threw a closed fist punch at Austin, but he had the motion and it was directed towards Austin’s head/neck. At a minimum he deserved a flag.
 

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yes well how does this explain why Smitty dropped that ball?
When you inject a prime p=1 (mod 4) into the Gaussian Integers, you get p equal to the product of two primes. Two primes, two eyes, the sum gets into your eyes. Bad luck for Smitty and Philadelphia, but the math don’t lie.
 
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I want to know why on the interception did the player give himself up on the runback?? there was almost 3 minutes left in the game???? and if he actual gave more effort he could eluded the would be tacklers that were just standing around was there a whistle that we didnt hear??

there was no last 25 seconds left where you run around and fall down...its was like 3 minutes.....play football god dammit


IF he eludes the would be tackler #26 instead of covering up he returns it to the house no one in front of him and everyone standing around


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I want to know why on the interception did the player give himself up on the runback?? there was almost 3 minutes left in the game???? and if he actual gave more effort he could alluded the would be tacklers that were just standing around was there a whistle that we didnt hear??

there was no last 25 seconds left where you run around and fall down...its was like 3 minutes.....play football god dammit


IF he eludes the would be tackler #26 instead of covering up he returns it to the house no one in front of him and everyone standing around


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fwiw I wondered the same thing, but thought perhaps he was tired, or didnt like the way his legs were moving or something, but I did think think there was more to gain there.
 

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Slay should have been ejected. The rules are clear as day. Throwing a punch is a flag and an ejection. It was an egregious non call. Not to mention Slay must be the dumbest mother effer out there. Throwing punches at a 280 lb man with his helmet on? Was he looking to break his own hand? It is somewhat unclear whether Mitchell threw a closed fist punch at Austin, but he had the motion and it was directed towards Austin’s head/neck. At a minimum he deserved a flag.

Ok bud…. I hope you got whatever catharsis you were looking for by coming here a week later, but it’s time….

 

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Ok bud…. I hope you got whatever catharsis you were looking for by coming here a week later, but it’s time….


I’m good, bud. You can’t seem to admit Slay should have been ejected and Mitchell deserved, at a minimum, a flag, possible ejection there also. Some of you want to complain that the officiating was horrendous in this weeks game while ignoring the fact that it was also horrendous in last weeks game. It just benefitted your team so you didn’t care. Officiating has stunk for a very long time. It’s ridiculously inconsistent and, as far as we know, the officials aren’t held accountable.

For the record, they missed a clear hip drop tackle on the Steeler’s Pierre also. He hit a text book illegal tackle on AJ Brown. It wasn’t flagged.
 
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