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Praying.

Y’all make sure people in your life know they’re loved and thought about. In that state of mind, one feels extremely alone and worthless to everyone in their life. No one should feel like that.
 
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If y’all could, say a prayer for my family tomorrow, specifically my sister brother in law & nieces. My nephew is being buried. He committed suicide at 32 years old. If you or anyone you know is struggling with depression, get help. And for Gods sake stay off the Adderall & Xanax.
Sorry to hear.

and I say a lot of stuff on the internet but I tell my friends a lot, if you are struggling talk to someone. Me. Wife. Mom. Dad. Psychiatrist. Someone.
 

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Sorry to hear.

and I say a lot of stuff on the internet but I tell my friends a lot, if you are struggling talk to someone. Me. Wife. Mom. Dad. Psychiatrist. Someone.
This is so important. My nephew just holed himself up in his room for the last few years & you couldn’t get him to really talk. Talk to someone. I think with everything we went through with Covid & the lockdowns, a lot of peoples mental health really suffered.
 
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This is so important. My nephew just holed himself up in his room for the last few years & you couldn’t get him to really talk. Talk to someone. I think with everything we went through with Covid & the lockdowns, a lot of peoples mental health really suffered.
I'm an over sharer so this doesn't bother me. I "struggle" with anxiety. I mean its under control, but it is there. I have a bottle of klonopin in my car but I have told my doctor (who is also a friend) if a bottle of 30 isn't lasting me 3 to 4 months we need to talk!
 

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I'm an over sharer so this doesn't bother me. I "struggle" with anxiety. I mean its under control, but it is there. I have a bottle of klonopin in my car but I have told my doctor (who is also a friend) if a bottle of 30 isn't lasting me 3 to 4 months we need to talk!
In all seriousness, you need to throw that stuff out. That class of drugs is extremely dangerous. A bottle of 30 lasting 3-4 months can quickly turn into a major addiction problem. And once you're on them, they're hell to get off of.
 
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In all seriousness, you need to throw that stuff out. That class of drugs is extremely dangerous. A bottle of 30 lasting 3-4 months can quickly turn into a major addiction problem. And once you're on them, they're hell to get off of.
Trust me i would if i could! I've been using them for about 7 years. Sometimes they last 5 or 6 months but I fly a lot for work and i'll take them when i fly as well.

Luckily I don't have an addictive personality, and I am very diligent about tracking how often i take them and how long they last.
 

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Trust me i would if i could! I've been using them for about 7 years. Sometimes they last 5 or 6 months but I fly a lot for work and i'll take them when i fly as well.

Luckily I don't have an addictive personality, and I am very diligent about tracking how often i take them and how long they last.
I understand. Be very careful (and it sounds like you are), and good luck. If it's a low dose and you can keep it to a pill every 2-3 days, you should be fine. But it can spiral out of control quickly if you go through a really traumatic stressful event, so watch it like a hawk.
 
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I understand. Be very careful (and it sounds like you are), and good luck. If it's a low dose and you can keep it to a pill every 2-3 days, you should be fine. But it can spiral out of control quickly if you go through a really traumatic stressful event, so watch it like a hawk.
Honestly i normal only take a pill about every 7 to 14 days, but when i fly thats one pill on the way and one pill on the way back.

If i go on a guys trip its usually a rough week after!
 
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Sorry Pat, lost my brother in law to it several years ago. He was on anti-depressants but we didn't realize how strong his demons were. His dad was a huge source of it and I shouldn't feel this way but it pisses me off that his dad is still alive and my brother in law is gone.
 

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Pat, my condolences to you and your family. I'm wiping tears thinking of what y'all must be going through and remembering a time 2 years ago where this almost happened to my family. Stay strong friend.
 
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If y’all could, say a prayer for my family tomorrow, specifically my sister brother in law & nieces. My nephew is being buried. He committed suicide at 32 years old. If you or anyone you know is struggling with depression, get help. And for Gods sake stay off the Adderall & Xanax.
Pat,

I'm very sorry to read this. I know it's terrible for your family. I hope and pray that you and they can somehow find peace in this terrible time.

And you are right about reaching out for help. Too often, men are told that we can't show emotion or vulnerability or it will show that we are weak and less of a man. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
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Pat (and everyone) do you guys think the medication can actually make it worse in some way - like even taking those individuals to the ultimate breaking point? I'm asking because as I said above, I've had a couple of friends who ended their own lives in the last few years, and both were on some sort of medication. It seems now after thinking back on it that it may have made them very unstable... like, the good times were really high but the bad times took them really really low. All of this sort of went unrecognized (at least by me) at the time, but looking back and finding stuff out after the funeral made me wonder.

Just seems that it's happening more and more, and that would coincide with the skyrocketing prescriptions of these meds in the past couple of decades. Scary thought.
 
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Pat (and everyone) do you guys think the medication can actually make it worse in some way - like even taking those individuals to the ultimate breaking point? I'm asking because as I said above, I've had a couple of friends who ended their own lives in the last few years, and both were on some sort of medication. It seems now after thinking back on it that it may have made them very unstable... like, the good times were really high but the bad times took them really really low. All of this sort of went unrecognized (at least by me) at the time, but looking back and finding stuff out after the funeral made me wonder.

Just seems that it's happening more and more, and that would coincide with the skyrocketing prescriptions of these meds in the past couple of decades. Very scary if so.
I think these medications absolutely do make things worse. Maybe at very low doses and for short-term use, they might help some. But long-term, these are extremely dangerous drugs.
 

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I think these medications absolutely do make things worse. Maybe at very low doses and for short-term use, they might help some. But long-term, these are extremely dangerous drugs.
And these drugs mixed with someone who still drinks alcohol can be a dangerous cocktail. In general we all know alcohol can really magnify the bad times but combined with these drugs it can be too much for some at what otherwise seems to be a random point in time.
 
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I think these medications absolutely do make things worse. Maybe at very low doses and for short-term use, they might help some. But long-term, these are extremely dangerous drugs.
Pat, my condolences to you and your family. That kind of death is a tough, tough one to experience.

I concur with you about the meds. I've been a part of the 12 step community for 20+ years and sadly this story is all too common. Meds can be helpful in the very short term, but at the same time, the sufferer must do a deep dive into themself for long term wholeness.

Best to you and your family.
 
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