OT: CEO killer caught?

[johnson86-1]

BREAKING: Cops Take Man Into Custody With ‘Similar’ Weapon Used in CEO Assassination

A man has been taken into custody and is being questioned by police in Pennsylvania in connection with the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, according to MSNBC -- and he reportedly had a "similar" weapon as the one that was used in the shooting.

www.mediaite.com

The info about having documents relating to the crime sounds like it's very likely.

 

[dorndawg]

If initial reports are close to true, ol buddy went from criminal mastermind to bumbling moron pretty quick.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

If initial reports are close to true, ol buddy went from criminal mastermind to bumbling moron pretty quick.

Yep. Not only did he still have the murder weapon. He still had it on his person. That thing should have been launched off a bridge between NY and PA at 3:00AM on his way back home or melted down. Or melted down and then launched over a bridge.

 

[Dawg1976]

If initial reports are close to true, ol buddy went from criminal mastermind to bumbling moron pretty quick.

Yeah. Why in the world didn’t he dump the gun in a river or body of water somewhere? Of course this might not be the guy.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

When folks were claiming it was a professional hit....there was nothing professional about it.

My question, did he want to get caught?

 

[Dawgg]

My question, did he want to get caught?

If this is the guy, then I would say, yes, yes he did.

 

[The Peeper]

Thompson Killer Captured?

 

[dawgman42]

<Shame on me> This is how I pictured him getting cornered at the McD's. . .

</Shame on me>

 

[YesIAmAPirate]

How stupid do you have to be to get caught by a McDonald's employee? They can't even get a simple order right

 

[Perd Hapley]

If initial reports are close to true, ol buddy went from criminal mastermind to bumbling moron pretty quick.

Yeah. If.

Let’s see if this guy stays alive long enough to make it to trial. If not, you’ll have the answer as to how “close to true” it is (not very).

 

[Perd Hapley]

Yeah. Why in the world didn’t he dump the gun in a river or body of water somewhere? Of course this might not be the guy.

Not only the gun….but the same ID used (among several other fake ID’s, apparently) and the alleged manifesto. You got all these ID’s, and you hang onto literally the only one that ties you to NYC after the shooting? And THAT’s the one you show to the cops? He could have literally had zero ID on him, and been in better shape than that.

Not saying this is the case, but if you were lining up a patsy, this is how it would be done.

 

[HotMop]

Penn and Stanford grad, also the valedictorian from a $40k a year high school. Can't trust the poor and underprivileged anymore.

 

[johnson86-1]

Thompson Killer Captured?

$40k per year high school. That tracks

 

[Darryl Steight]

Pennsylvania having quite the wild ride this year.

 

[Perd Hapley]

$40k per year high school. That tracks

Odd that there’s no photo of him in that article….assuming he’d have a ton of pictures available from LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Yep. Not only did he still have the murder weapon. He still had it on his person. That thing should have been launched off a bridge between NY and PA at 3:00AM on his way back home or melted down. Or melted down and then launched over a bridge.

Is that how you get away with it?

 

[horshack.sixpack]

When folks were claiming it was a professional hit....there was nothing professional about it.

My question, did he want to get caught?

Occam's Razor wins again? No greater conspiracy, just pain and anger driving someone to do something tragic, it appears.

 

[johnson86-1]

Odd that there’s no photo of him in that article….assuming he’d have a ton of pictures available from LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

There are photos. Didn't really pay attention before so they may have added afterwards.

 

[L4Dawg]

It's going to be interesting to see what they uncover about this guy.

 

[johnson86-1]

Occam's Razor wins again? No greater conspiracy, just pain and anger driving someone to do something tragic, it appears.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it wasn't pain, just anger and looking to feel important. I don't doubt that he had a relative that was unhappy with the United Healthcare experience, but I seriously doubt anybody close to him didn't get medical care when he went to a $40k per year high school and attended an ivy league school.

Also, he had the background that if he had really wanted to do something to improve the situation. Even if he thought it was too far fetched that just one person with ivy league connections and a rich family near Washington DC could meaningfully move the needle on healthcare policy, he presumably could have been much more destructive with a little bit of planning and effort. This seems like him wanting to feel important without wanting to do the hard work that's required to actually be important.

ETA: These are supposedly the properties his parents own:

https://www.turfvalley.com/

Home - Hayfields Country Club - Hunt Valley, MD

www.hayfieldscc.com

So yea, looks like somebody with tons of ability that got to play life on easy mode and was bored with life.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it wasn't pain, just anger and looking to feel important. I don't doubt that he had a relative that was unhappy with the United Healthcare experience, but I seriously doubt anybody close to him didn't get medical care when he went to a $40k per year high school and attended an ivy league school.

Also, he had the background that if he had really wanted to do something to improve the situation. Even if he thought it was too far fetched that just one person with ivy league connections could meaningfully move the needle on healthcare policy, he presumably could have been much more destructive with a little bit of planning and effort. This seems like him wanting to feel important without wanting to do the hard work that's required to actually be important.

Yeah. It will be interesting to see what we learn post-arrest. I hope he lives to provide insight (i.e. doesn't kill himself before trial).

 

[Perd Hapley]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it wasn't pain, just anger and looking to feel important. I don't doubt that he had a relative that was unhappy with the United Healthcare experience, but I seriously doubt anybody close to him didn't get medical care when he went to a $40k per year high school and attended an ivy league school.

Also, he had the background that if he had really wanted to do something to improve the situation. Even if he thought it was too far fetched that just one person with ivy league connections could meaningfully move the needle on healthcare policy, he presumably could have been much more destructive with a little bit of planning and effort. This seems like him wanting to feel important without wanting to do the hard work that's required to actually be important.

I think he either wanted to get caught, or it was very important for someone to be caught. There really is nothing in between those 2 extremes.

I’m also very skeptical that there’s just one person involved, regardless. They still don’t have any detail released about how the bike got there near the scene, when it never appeared beforehand in the hundreds of hours of footage of him canvassing the city. They also don’t know where it went afterwards, just that he didn’t have it at the taxi. If he planted it there near the scene in advance, there would be camera evidence of that at some point. If he stole it, someone would be missing it, and would have reported that.

It’s too large of an object to just spawn up without it being very obvious how it got there. Only plausible explanation is that a resident or other bystander hid it for him and had it ready at the right moment (maybe who he was talking to on the phone), or it was dead dropped in an area not covered by the cameras.

 

[johnson86-1]

I think he either wanted to get caught, or it was very important for someone to be caught. There really is nothing in between those 2 extremes.

I suspect he was probably ambivalent about getting caught. Clearly went through some decent planning to not get caught and had he not pulled down his mask to flirt with a girl, maybe he doesn't get caught. But him keeping that much incriminating evidence on his person certainly makes it look like he at least sort of wanted to get caught and have the notoriety.

 

[johnson86-1]

Yeah. It will be interesting to see what we learn post-arrest. I hope he lives to provide insight (i.e. doesn't kill himself before trial).

If he doesn't live long enough to, I'll believe he was framed. Just seems too interested in pushing his message to off himself now that he finally has a huge microphone.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it wasn't pain, just anger and looking to feel important. I don't doubt that he had a relative that was unhappy with the United Healthcare experience, but I seriously doubt anybody close to him didn't get medical care when he went to a $40k per year high school and attended an ivy league school.

Also, he had the background that if he had really wanted to do something to improve the situation. Even if he thought it was too far fetched that just one person with ivy league connections and a rich family near Washington DC could meaningfully move the needle on healthcare policy, he presumably could have been much more destructive with a little bit of planning and effort. This seems like him wanting to feel important without wanting to do the hard work that's required to actually be important.

ETA: These are supposedly the properties his parents own:

https://www.turfvalley.com/

Home - Hayfields Country Club - Hunt Valley, MD

www.hayfieldscc.com

So yea, looks like somebody with tons of ability that got to play life on easy mode and was bored with life.

I think that a large percentage of angst in this country among young people has to do with having no "real" problems in life. By "real", I mean they largely aren't worried about if they will have food, or a place to live, etc. We seem pre-disposed to need something to worry about. This may explain a lot of our outrage culture too.

 

[HotMop]

 

[Xenomorph]

Dude only got caught because he showed his face on camera.

All he had to do was keep his face covered. Bang bang.. ride into the park. Change clothes. Calmly walk out 2 miles away and disappear.

But he decided to flirt with that girl..... #undefeated.

 

[Darryl Steight]

Yeah. It will be interesting to see what we learn post-arrest. I hope he lives to provide insight (i.e. doesn't kill himself before trial).

If he does "kill himself"... like with a sheet that wasn't in his jail cell right after the cameras temporarily malfunction, for instance... then we will know.

 

[johnson86-1]

I think he either wanted to get caught, or it was very important for someone to be caught. There really is nothing in between those 2 extremes.

I’m also very skeptical that there’s just one person involved, regardless. They still don’t have any detail released about how the bike got there near the scene, when it never appeared beforehand in the hundreds of hours of footage of him canvassing the city. They also don’t know where it went afterwards, just that he didn’t have it at the taxi. If he planted it there near the scene in advance, there would be camera evidence of that at some point. If he stole it, someone would be missing it, and would have reported that.

It’s too large of an object to just spawn up without it being very obvious how it got there. Only plausible explanation is that a resident or other bystander hid it for him and had it ready at the right moment (maybe who he was talking to on the phone), or it was dead dropped in an area not covered by the cameras.

I don't know. The question of how it got there doesn't change whether he put it there or somebody else. And as for where it went, I would suspect if you leave a bike unchained in most places of NYC, you aren't likely going to have to worry about disposing of it.

I certainly don't doubt that he could have had an accomplice or multiple ones. They could have had a little club. I just don't think the bike requires it. He was apparently staying at the hostel for several days. Plenty of time to stash it nearby. That assumes there was a place for it to be safely locked nearby that he could count on it being there for a day or two.

 

[ckDOG]

His twitter is still out there if anyone wants insight to his thoughts and influences.

@PepMangione

 

[The Fatboy]

Manchurian assassin?

 

[ronpolk]

I think he either wanted to get caught, or it was very important for someone to be caught. There really is nothing in between those 2 extremes.

I’m also very skeptical that there’s just one person involved, regardless. They still don’t have any detail released about how the bike got there near the scene, when it never appeared beforehand in the hundreds of hours of footage of him canvassing the city. They also don’t know where it went afterwards, just that he didn’t have it at the taxi. If he planted it there near the scene in advance, there would be camera evidence of that at some point. If he stole it, someone would be missing it, and would have reported that.

It’s too large of an object to just spawn up without it being very obvious how it got there. Only plausible explanation is that a resident or other bystander hid it for him and had it ready at the right moment (maybe who he was talking to on the phone), or it was dead dropped in an area not covered by the cameras.

I don’t think this deal is nearly as complicated as you are trying to make it out to be. I think it’s just a guy who is probably not quite right.

 

[Bobby Ricigliano]

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Needed the wifi to read about how smart he is (was?)…

 

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Odd that there’s no photo of him in that article….assuming he’d have a ton of pictures available from LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

They’re out there…just google his name.

I’ve run my own facial algorithm & have confirmed a match with the hostel photo.

 

[RocketDawg]

Luigi Mangione - the name explains the eyebrows.

 

[RocketDawg]

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Probably because he doesn't have a vehicle (took the bus a couple of times, electric rental bike, etc.).

 

[onewoof]

26-year-old former lvy League student who had a manifesto which contained grievances against the US healthcare industry...

The profile of a unibomber somewhat

 

[GloryDawg]

I wonder what meal he was eating when it happened?

 

[kired]

I wonder what meal he was eating when it happened?

Could you imagine your last meal as a free man being McDonalds?

 

[ZombieKissinger]

As much as he hates corporations and the struggles of the modern world, he sure as **** loves McDonalds