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OT: DJU's FSU debut drawing criticism
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He was the 12th ranked QB in the portal, per On3 (no idea how those rankings are even determined).
Beyond the known deficiencies he had at QB, he had already been in the ACC at the other premier program and couldn't hack it. What was reason to there to think bringing him back to the same conference would yield different results.
I don't know. He has shown steady progress year-over-year so far. It'll be interesting to see how this year goes. The schedule doesn't do them a lot of favors, with a solid BC up next and then Memphis who was a 10-win team last year. They get a bit of a break with Cal and SMU but then play Clemson, Duke, Miami, UNC and ND. They don't get a true cream puff until the next-to-last game of the season.
You never can tell from first games. Will they finish 11-1 and that first game will be a fluke? Unless they can straighten out the OL and DL, they looked about like a 3-loss team, and it's not hard to see 2-3 more losses on their schedule. One thing they can't fix is DJ.
FSU wanted big names to make a splash to give the impression that they were not only back but are back amidst the elite of the sport.
I hear you, but I'm not sure anyone can guarantee anything from one year to the next now. You need to play freshmen to keep them but only exceptional freshmen can lift a team. Those who can, you're likely to lose anyway.
This is what I mean, I think it is year 5 for Norvell and the best they can do is bring in DJ from the portal? Year 5 and their OL and DL got pushed around by GT? Did GT all of a sudden become the mid 80's Chicago Bears or was FSU a bit over hyped as well. I think we are seeing Norvell's abilities level off. They may have peaked last year unless they can improve in key spots.
DJU is only an average QB, but he is being scapegoated for that Georgia Tech game. He was not bad. Didn't turn the ball over. Had a good drive at the end of the game to tie it up. FSU could not stop the run, allowed GT to make it a possession game, and kick a FG to steal it in the end. FSU has to get their run D together or else they could have problems again with BC on the road Monday night.
But that's the main problem with DJ. The best anyone can ever say about him is "he was not bad". As one FSU insider noted he's not a "put the team on his back" kind of QB. He may not be solely responsible for the loss, but he didn't do much to help them win, either. Again, this is all in the context of selecting him out of the portal. He's just not a playoff-caliber QB.
...and they don't have playoff caliber players around him on that offense. They don't have a Keon Coleman type receiver anymore. The kid wearing #0 appeared to be a good little possession receiver. Toafili is a little scatback that made a play, but I just don't see the athletes. .....and as I said their defense let GT keep the Time of Possession virtually even. FSU only got off 59 plays. You reduce the plays down that much and you are going to affect even a Championship-level offense.
That goes back to making the players around you better, which is the job of the QB.
Not sure why you're so defensive of DJ. Nobody has suggested he's solely responsible for the loss, or even mostly responsible for the loss. Simply that he was exactly the kind of QB he was at Clemson which begs the question of why FSU went after him (and even further, why Norvell, entering his 5th season hasn't developed a QB). You know as well as I do the QB always gets the most scrutiny. Goes with the territory for the only player on the team who has a W/L record attached to their stats.
In any event, we'll find out in the BC game. All the pressure is on FSU to prove the GaTech game was a fluke and to turn DJ loose.
Of course, by Saturday night, I'll know what our own deficiencies are and won't be all the worried about FSU.
Of course, by Saturday night, I'll know what our own deficiencies are and won't be all the worried about FSU.
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Ga. Tech is well coached. Their linemen and backs block the people they are supposed to block. It opens up a lot of stuff.
That's right. As college quarterbacks go, he's milquetoast, well, maybe nondescript.
BC sucks. Dj can be Dj and FSU will win.
I just wish DJ was still starting at Clemson.
I wouldn't say they suck, necessarily. They were 7-6 last year, with an early season 2-point loss to FSU. But, yeah, game at home so FSU should win fairly easily.
Game 2 didn't help things. Actually felt bad for DJ last night. He had a hopeless/helpless kind of look on his face, but had no choice but to keep running out there. FSU has issues across the board, no doubt, but fans were chanting "we want Brock" after DJ kept overthrowing wide open receivers.
After our ODU game, I can sympathize with their plight.
After our ODU game, I can sympathize with their plight.
Is brick their backup? I can't imagine trotting that headcase out there for another start. DJ would be watching from the bench if I was the coach.
He just clearly doesn't have it (and I say this full well aware we have our own QB issues). They drove down down the BC 5 after they managed to flip the field and get the ball at BC 35 to start the drive.
The OL allowed a terrible sack and then DJ missed badly on 2 passes into the end zone, including a completely uncovered Roydell Williams when DJ air mailed it way over his head.
They later drove down to the 6 and DJ misfired on 3 shots into the end zone.
This guy isn't young either. He redshirted right? Then spent 2 years at Clemson and then one year out west? So he's 5 years out of HS and he STILL looks like this?
FSU better start working their backup.
Bad news for FSU is, because Norvell has shunned recruiting in favor of the portal, they have no backup QB to develop. It's not like they have some hot shot true freshman waiting in the wings who they can bring in and get snaps and generate excitement. Leaving DJ at starter feels like waving the white flag. Bringing in the backup, Brock Glenn, would also feel like waving the white flag.
But, yeah, at this point, DJ is what he is. We've already talked about it, but it was just a weird, weird decision for Norvell. There was already plenty of tape of DJ in the ACC, and not much of it was flattering.
EDIT: and FSU apparently paid DJ $1 million
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