OT - fantastic podcast about the correlation between youth anxiety and social media

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It's likely that social media is affecting more young liberal and progressive women than conservative women although perhaps certain personality types are already drawn to left-wing politics. It's worth examining this in an unbiased way:

Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue​

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Liberals have higher rates of depression than conservatives.
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But conservative states have higher suicide rates than liberal states. Men, especially white men, have the highest suicide rates and white American men may have the highest suicide rates in the world (data is incomplete):
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There's no way I'm listening to this. I haven't even gotten to the Rogan podcast with the guy who is positive we didn't go to the moon.

Priorities...
 
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I was just thinking about the backlash Hawk Tuah girl is receiving right now. Man I grew up with some good girls who said stuff like this all the time. We laughed and went on our way. Now due to social media some are trying to ruin her life.
Is she getting backlash? I missed that. I mean, I probably wouldn't be thrilled if that was my daughter, and maybe it's a little bit of a red flag for somebody actually considering dating her to find out just how much experience she has on that issue, but it was pretty clearly a joking comment.
 
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There's no way I'm listening to this. I haven't even gotten to the Rogan podcast with the guy who is positive we didn't go to the moon.

Priorities...
I’ll save you the torture of listening to what glfrs posts sound like if they were audible.

But joking aside, the content was fair and logical. Thanks for posting, rollerblades.

He used data to pinpoint the gut feeling many of us have had for a long time-

Social media can be surprisingly damaging, but is especially influential to young girls and women who can’t stop using it as an echo chamber. Misery loves company.
 

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It's likely that social media is affecting more young liberal and progressive women than conservative women although perhaps certain personality types are already drawn to left-wing politics. It's worth examining this in an unbiased way:

Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue​

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Liberals have higher rates of depression than conservatives.
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This is, to a degree, addressed in the podcast interview. They discuss kids that grow up in actively religious households and possible reasons for why that group has not seen the same rise in anxiety and depression as other groups/categories.
 

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This is, to a degree, addressed in the podcast interview. They discuss kids that grow up in actively religious households and possible reasons for why that group has not seen the same rise in anxiety and depression as other groups/categories.
I thought that data was interesting as well. We tried to teach our kids balance. I think social media is the devil, but wife and kids found that ridiculous.

I truly believe that while it may have its place, social media is absolutely designed to be addictive, and without higher priorities like kindness, faith, and focusing on helping others (which proper faith encourages), it often exploits the tendencies of nihilism and depression in those susceptible to it.
 

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I thought that data was interesting as well. We tried to teach our kids balance. I think social media is the devil, but wife and kids found that ridiculous.

I truly believe that while it may have its place, social media is absolutely designed to be addictive, and without higher priorities like kindness, faith, and focusing on helping others (which proper faith encourages), it often exploits the tendencies of nihilism and depression in those susceptible to it.
Yes, those reasons are all probably factors at play, and impact people to varying degrees based on how each person is wired.
One other possible explanation they gave is something that was mentioned earlier in this thread- schedule/structure. Kids in religious households tend to more frequently have a schedule and structure, and are held accountable to that schedule. If your energy goes toward what is on your schedule, then there is less energy available to focus on social media and whether or not you have hearted every post possible out of obligation and fear.

Kinda funny, since a current trend is to talk about how kids are over scheduled, have too much structure, and too little unstructured freetime. Tough to square that common and popular viewpoint(which has validity to it) with the fact that kids from families with schedules and structure have less time and energy to get hyperfocused on social media.
 

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It's likely that social media is affecting more young liberal and progressive women than conservative women although perhaps certain personality types are already drawn to left-wing politics. It's worth examining this in an unbiased way:

Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue​

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Liberals have higher rates of depression than conservatives.
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Almost certainly some causation going both ways there. Lots of parts of the leftist worldview that attract people prone to those type issues, and also lots of parts of the leftist worldview that are just psychologically unhealthy and self-destructive.
 

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If I did teach, I can't imagine trying to teach things I don't fully understand.

Yes, those reasons are all probably factors at play, and impact people to varying degrees based on how each person is wired.
One other possible explanation they gave is something that was mentioned earlier in this thread- schedule/structure. Kids in religious households tend to more frequently have a schedule and structure, and are held accountable to that schedule. If your energy goes toward what is on your schedule, then there is less energy available to focus on social media and whether or not you have hearted every post possible out of obligation and fear.

Kinda funny, since a current trend is to talk about how kids are over scheduled, have too much structure, and too little unstructured freetime. Tough to square that common and popular viewpoint(which has validity to it) with the fact that kids from families with schedules and structure have less time and energy to get hyperfocused on social media.
Also, groupthink has its pros and cons. Some people make great sheep, sadly. Those that don't, tend to struggle as they grapple with realizing everything they have been taught is wildly insufficient to explain the world they now truly see. I think that explains a large chunk of the "anxiety" difference among ideologies. (The rest is probably reporting bias and such.)

My struggle is how to raise children religiously, but without tainting them with conservative group think. The local catholic church had been doing fine on this....until last night.
 

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Kinda funny, since a current trend is to talk about how kids are over scheduled, have too much structure, and too little unstructured freetime. Tough to square that common and popular viewpoint(which has validity to it) with the fact that kids from families with schedules and structure have less time and energy to get hyperfocused on social media.
I agree that kids need to be allowed to freely play. However it is my experience kids just don't now a days because they are on their phones or games. My kid included.

Therefore I keep my kid in sports for social reasons and other life lessons as much as the sport of it.
 

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My struggle is how to raise children religiously, but without tainting them with conservative group think. The local catholic church had been doing fine on this....until last night.
What happened last night?
 

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What happened last night?
Poor "non-political" jokes that were in fact highly political and reinforcing conservative group think. When your "jokes" are talking about socialism and global warming not being real, you're not being non-political. Not sure if this results from the priest not coming from America and not catching the subtext, or just being so deep in conservative ideology that he didn't realize the error or just didn't care, but it definitely crossed a line. Granted, most churches cross that line multiple times every sermon and this is the first I've heard at this church in a decade. In and of itself, it's not a big deal. Just got me thinking about how to raise my kids here without them being bombarded by this groupthink from authority figures.
 

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Poor "non-political" jokes that were in fact highly political and reinforcing conservative group think. When your "jokes" are talking about socialism and global warming not being real, you're not being non-political. Not sure if this results from the priest not coming from America and not catching the subtext, or just being so deep in conservative ideology that he didn't realize the error or just didn't care, but it definitely crossed a line. Granted, most churches cross that line multiple times every sermon and this is the first I've heard at this church in a decade. In and of itself, it's not a big deal. Just got me thinking about how to raise my kids here without them being bombarded by this groupthink from authority figures.
"A priest, a socialist, and a climate activist walk into a bar..."
 

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Is she getting backlash? I missed that. I mean, I probably wouldn't be thrilled if that was my daughter, and maybe it's a little bit of a red flag for somebody actually considering dating her to find out just how much experience she has on that issue, but it was pretty clearly a joking comment.
I read she lost her job as a preschool teacher.
 

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I read she lost her job as a preschool teacher.
Unless she was at a Christian preschool that really holds out their teachers as being devout and conservative (in the modesty/chastity sense, not the political sense), that's pretty absurd. I mean, I can certainly understanding all the mom's not wanting her there when their husbands suddenly started volunteering to drop off and pick up the kids. But are they really worried she's going to start giving oral sex advice to preschoolers or something?
 

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It's likely that social media is affecting more young liberal and progressive women than conservative women although perhaps certain personality types are already drawn to left-wing politics. It's worth examining this in an unbiased way:

Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue​

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Liberals have higher rates of depression than conservatives.
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Maybe more white men should consider a black supportive wife like her:

 
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But conservative states have higher suicide rates than liberal states. Men, especially white men, have the highest suicide rates and white American men may have the highest suicide rates in the world (data is incomplete):
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I look at that map and see a rough correlation between sparsely populated areas and suicide. Of course less densely populated areas tend to be republican, but you've got New Mexico as a blue state being a pretty high rate. Lots of purplish states with relatively high rates and lots of solidly red states with low rates, albeit it not as low as California and a good chunk of the northeast. Not sure you'd have a noticeable trend after controlling for just a few other variables.
 
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Also, groupthink has its pros and cons. Some people make great sheep, sadly. Those that don't, tend to struggle as they grapple with realizing everything they have been taught is wildly insufficient to explain the world they now truly see. I think that explains a large chunk of the "anxiety" difference among ideologies. (The rest is probably reporting bias and such.)

My struggle is how to raise children religiously, but without tainting them with conservative group think. The local catholic church had been doing fine on this....until last night.
I wish I knew the specifics of "last night".
 

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Poor "non-political" jokes that were in fact highly political and reinforcing conservative group think. When your "jokes" are talking about socialism and global warming not being real, you're not being non-political. Not sure if this results from the priest not coming from America and not catching the subtext, or just being so deep in conservative ideology that he didn't realize the error or just didn't care, but it definitely crossed a line. Granted, most churches cross that line multiple times every sermon and this is the first I've heard at this church in a decade. In and of itself, it's not a big deal. Just got me thinking about how to raise my kids here without them being bombarded by this groupthink from authority figures.
I was on our pastoral council for a few years and among the things we do is bring issues to priests at meetings and when we want to. If you know someone on the pastoral council let them know and ask them to politely request that mass and other parish sponsored events aren't places for political indoctrination. I spoke out on a few things and priests listened. If done respectfully, lay authority can be influential. The abortion issue is fine, that's been official church teaching for some time. After George Floyd, our priest said a couple of things, much of it non-controversial, just reminding parishioners that racism is against Catholic and Christian teaching and reminded us to love one another and help the less fortunate. Had he gone on and pushed a bunch of other ideas for the secular social justice left that gained some popularity, I would have said something. Parishioners have a right to do that.
 
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Poor "non-political" jokes that were in fact highly political and reinforcing conservative group think. When your "jokes" are talking about socialism and global warming not being real, you're not being non-political. Not sure if this results from the priest not coming from America and not catching the subtext, or just being so deep in conservative ideology that he didn't realize the error or just didn't care, but it definitely crossed a line. Granted, most churches cross that line multiple times every sermon and this is the first I've heard at this church in a decade. In and of itself, it's not a big deal. Just got me thinking about how to raise my kids here without them being bombarded by this groupthink from authority figures.
Socialism unchecked is a proven failure and nobody's doubting climate change. Discussing what's causing climate change is NOT settled science. The huge money trail of the alarmists is alarming. Nothing wrong with The Churches views but still don't knows The specifics off what was actually said.
 
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