OT: Is fishing with Livescope like cheating?

[DesotoCountyDawg]

The Department of Wildlife Fisheries and Parks just came out with new limits on crappie because people are catching so many fish with Livescope.


REMINDER - New creel limits for crappie at Lake Washington and the four Flood Control Reservoirs (Grenada, Enid, Sardis, and Arkabutla) go into effect tomorrow, July 24th.

New regulations:
-> At Lake Washington, the daily creel limit for crappie is 20 fish per angler & the minimum length limit remains at 11 inches.

->At the four Flood Control Reservoirs, the daily creel limit for crappie is 10 fish per angler & daily boat limit is 25 fish for boats with three or more anglers. The minimum length limit remains at 12 inches.

For more information - https://www.mdwfp.com/news/mdwfp-an...D-HcoVKSivGmqr4YFQ_aem_rqx7q46Hu7PO7floMG-bEQ

 

[Anon1704414204]

10 per at a foot long doesn't sound endangered so I voted no. Plenty of fish left in the lake and erybody gets 2nds.

 

[aTotal360]

I’m fine with it for recreational use, but it should be disallowed in tournament fishing.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

No problem with it at all. It’s just like spotlighting deer.

 

[M R DAWGS]

It shouldn’t be allowed on smaller bodies of water. I’m ok with it on places like the reservoir or Grenada lake.

 

[Ranchdawg]

I fish with a friend who has one. To me it makes fishing boring. You drop your jig right on the fish then pull them off in the boat. It is expedient though.

 

[Perd Hapley]

The Traeger pellet smoker of the wildlife and fisheries industry****

 

[DawgsGoneWild]

Definitely cheating and I’ll second Ranch, boring. I don’t want a part of it

 

[3000lbchicken]

We used to fill our freezer up every spring during the spawn to have fish for the year. We don't do that any more with livescope. I throw way more back than I keep. Keep a few if we want to have a fish fry. But thats just me. There are some that will rape the big lakes when they are at winter pool.
FYI, livescope won't make them bite. You'll learn more about them with it too. They are getting smarter and any boat sound will spook them to the bottom after being chased around.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

I prefer a seine net, no limits...as long as wardens stay off the lake at night...

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

We used to fill our freezer up every spring during the spawn to have fish for the year. We don't do that any more with livescope. I throw way more back than I keep. Keep a few if we want to have a fish fry. But thats just me. There are some that will rape the big lakes when they are at winter pool.
FYI, livescope won't make them bite. You'll learn more about them with it too. They are getting smarter and any boat sound will spook them to the bottom after being chased around.

I think that’s more my concern. It’s going to make the fish spook or change their habits to where you’re almost forced to fish with them.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

If it drops the creel limits for the average guy, I'd prefer it not be legal to use.

 

[Dawgg]

Unless you're dependent on fishing solely to feed yourself and your family, then what's the point? You have more technology than a fish? I feel like there's got to be some, ya know, sport to it.

 

[AlCoDog]

 

[mstateglfr]

I suck at fishing and only try to catch whatever I can see...so its always fish near a bank. Thats a free version of livescope.
No worry on me hitting my limit since everything is thrown back due to size!


Fishing with livescope isnt cheating- its like using a rangefinder in golf, a quality scope when hunting, etc. Its just technology that can make a hobby easier/more fun/more successful.
Also, someone with $10k in reels and other tackle isnt cheating when they are compared to a guy with a string, hook, and worm. Its all just how someone wants to experience their hobby.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Just buy the box of gorton's breaded filets and call it good.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Fishing with livescope isnt cheating- it’s like using a rangefinder in golf, a quality scope when hunting, etc. It’s just technology that can make a hobby easier/more fun/more successful.
Also, someone with $10k in reels and other tackle isnt cheating when they are compared to a guy with a string, hook, and worm. Its all just how someone wants to experience their hobby.

If that scope allows you to see in the dark, it’s not legal to use in the dark for hunting deer.

 

[Dawgbite]

this was the most advanced technology available back in my fishing days. Some M-80’s with waterproof fuses, a little ammonia nitrate, a little diesel fuel, and some of grandma’s empty pill bottles.

 

[patdog]

 

[DerHntr]

I suck at fishing and only try to catch whatever I can see...so its always fish near a bank. Thats a free version of livescope.
No worry on me hitting my limit since everything is thrown back due to size!


Fishing with livescope isnt cheating- its like using a rangefinder in golf, a quality scope when hunting, etc. Its just technology that can make a hobby easier/more fun/more successful.
Also, someone with $10k in reels and other tackle isnt cheating when they are compared to a guy with a string, hook, and worm. Its all just how someone wants to experience their hobby.

It is not like using a range finder or a gun scope. It would be like having thermal imaging technology that worked well in daylight and you could drive around in your truck or ATV seeing through the woods to find the deer. A range finder and a gun scope do not put you right on the animal.

I’m not saying they should be illegal. I’m saying you are not comparing apples to apples.

 

[DerHntr]

If it drops the creel limits for the average guy, I'd prefer it not be legal to use.

It would have been interesting if the limit was higher for people without a scope. Of course that would be hard to enforce.

 

[mstateglfr]

If that scope allows you to see in the dark, it’s not legal to use in the dark for hunting deer.

Good point. And that's a law vs is it 'cheating'.

 

[mstateglfr]

It is not like using a range finder or a gun scope. It would be like having thermal imaging technology that worked well in daylight and you could drive around in your truck or ATV seeing through the woods to find the deer. A range finder and a gun scope do not put you right on the animal.

I’m not saying they should be illegal. I’m saying you are not comparing apples to apples.

I agree they aren't apple to apple comparisons.
I was just listing some examples of technology that make a hobby easier/more successful, but I don't consider to be 'cheating'.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

The Department of Wildlife Fisheries and Parks just came out with new limits on crappie because people are catching so many fish with Livescope.


REMINDER - New creel limits for crappie at Lake Washington and the four Flood Control Reservoirs (Grenada, Enid, Sardis, and Arkabutla) go into effect tomorrow, July 24th.

New regulations:
-> At Lake Washington, the daily creel limit for crappie is 20 fish per angler & the minimum length limit remains at 11 inches.

->At the four Flood Control Reservoirs, the daily creel limit for crappie is 10 fish per angler & daily boat limit is 25 fish for boats with three or more anglers. The minimum length limit remains at 12 inches.

For more information - https://www.mdwfp.com/news/mdwfp-an...D-HcoVKSivGmqr4YFQ_aem_rqx7q46Hu7PO7floMG-bEQ

How is the flood control reservoirs creel limit different than before? I been fishing those for years and that was what I always thought the limit was. I know they added the 25 per boat max probably 8 or so years ago. You also can only use up to 4 rods per person.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

How is the flood control reservoirs creel limit different than before? I been fishing those for years and that was what I always thought the limit was. I know they added the 25 per boat max probably 8 or so years ago. You also can only use up to 4 rods per person.

Went from 15 to 10 fish. Length stayed at 12 inch.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

in the words of the nicktator and bair, "if you ain't cheating' ya ain't tryin'."

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

Length stayed at 12 inch.