OT: Jackson is 1st and worst in homicides

paindonthurt

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Just curious where you live or work? There is not a lot of crime downtown, if you consider DT the area from N State to thew train tracks between the state capitol and convention center.
I listed the number of murders within 1.5 mile radius of the capitol.

I mean there’s a reason all those businesses left like you mentioned.

Maybe it was the perception of crime due to how much goes on around the downtown area in a close proximity.
 

OG Goat Holder

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I listed the number of murders within 1.5 mile radius of the capitol.

I mean there’s a reason all those businesses left like you mentioned.

Maybe it was the perception of crime due to how much goes on around the downtown area in a close proximity.
Did you notice they were a small percentage of overall murders?

Are you really this stupid?

We all know the answer.
 
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This is a family issue. It won't be fixed by voting. It won't be fixed by law enforcement. It won't be fixed by economic opportunity. The only thing that will fix this issue is matriarchs and patriarchs making a decision to take responsibility for their children's behavior.
When you subsidize single motherhood it leads to people not having a reason to stay together in a 2 parent home and raise kids the right way. I realize that is a complex issue and not a one situation fits all issue, but government has hurt that issue a lot more than it has helped.
 

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I listed the number of murders within 1.5 mile radius of the capitol.

I mean there’s a reason all those businesses left like you mentioned.

Maybe it was the perception of crime due to how much goes on around the downtown area in a close proximity.
What is the source of that data?

The capitol is the northern boarder of DT, across high street is ghetto and it get's sketchy fast, but that's not what most consider DT. Also across Mill Street is within your 1.75 mile area, but that is not DT either.

DT is outlined as the Capitol (High Street) to the North, N State Street to the East, Railroad tracks to the West and Convention Center to the South. CSs is within your 1.75 mile board and no one considered CSs DT. At one time DT could be considered all the way down to Beatty Street, but that was long ago.

None of the core DT businesses left due to crime. Incompetent city leadership, iffy water, higher taxes, cheap, easily assessable building sites on Highland Colony that is closer to were the employees live is the reason this businesses left.
 
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paindonthurt

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Did you notice they were a small percentage of overall murders?

Are you really this stupid?

We all know the answer.
Yeah did you notice they were a huge percentage of murders compared to say flowood or the renaissance area or Madison or Brandon?

I mean murders not like salt you know. A little bit of salt wont hurt you, but a little bit of murder will.
 

paindonthurt

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So do you live or work near DT?
No I don’t. But you don’t have to live or work downtown to see people fleeing downtown left and right. Why are they leaving?

I know about 6 people who worked downtown at banks or law firms. They have a much different view than you do.

Again, I don’t need to work downtown to see the number of murders in a 1.5 mile radius. Small percentage of total murders or not. It’s still a lot of GD murders for a bunch of people to be around or invest in.
 

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What is the source of that data?

The capitol is the northern boarder of DT, across high street is ghetto and it get's sketchy fast, but that's not what most consider DT. Also across Mill Street is within your 1.75 mile area, but that is not DT either.

DT is outlined as the Capitol (High Street) to the North, N State Street to the East, Railroad tracks to the West and Convention Center to the South. CSs is within your 1.75 mile board and no one considered CSs DT. At one time DT could be considered all the way down to Beatty Street, but that was long ago.

None of the core DT businesses left due to crime. Incompetent city leadership, iffy water, higher taxes, cheap, easily assessable building sites on Highland Colony that is closer to were the employees live is the reason this businesses left.
I would stop trying to reason with that fool. Can’t reason with the unreasonable. Look at his posts since then. They make no sense.
 

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No I don’t. But you don’t have to live or work downtown to see people fleeing downtown left and right. Why are they leaving?

I know about 6 people who worked downtown at banks or law firms. They have a much different view than you do.

Again, I don’t need to work downtown to see the number of murders in a 1.5 mile radius. Small percentage of total murders or not. It’s still a lot of GD murders for a bunch of people to be around or invest in.
We know. You live in Starkville. Not the Jackson Metro.
 

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No I don’t. But you don’t have to live or work downtown to see people fleeing downtown left and right. Why are they leaving?

I know about 6 people who worked downtown at banks or law firms. They have a much different view than you do.

Again, I don’t need to work downtown to see the number of murders in a 1.5 mile radius. Small percentage of total murders or not. It’s still a lot of GD murders for a bunch of people to be around or invest in.
As someone who has worked DT for 30 years, I'm trying to educate you. Much of that radius IS NOT DT and you haven't provided the source of that data. For DT, the data is not close to accurate.

No one working DT is concerned or affected by what happens in the ghetto north of High Street. The Capitol Police (which has been around for decades) heavily patrolled that area and there's never been much crime bleed over into the DT area (since 1995 at least). I'm not saying cars didn't get broken into if some idiot left a valuable in sight.
 

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As someone who has worked DT for 30 years, I'm trying to educate you. Much of that radius IS NOT DT and you haven't provided the source of that data. For DT, the data is not close to accurate.
I’ll provide the source when you can show me you are intelligent enough to understand that it doesn’t matter what they call the area.

What matters is it’s close enough to downtown that people don’t like it. why are people and businesses fleeing downtown?
 

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How does a city in such shape pull out of the death spiral?
nuclear explosion GIF


…and start over
 

paindonthurt

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Honestly, it doesn’t matter where any of us live. Your data is idiotic. I showed you that clearly. Go to bed.
Yeah you totally showed us all goat!!

Put it this way. Starkville is 5 times larger than the area I’m referring to around the capitol.
The area around the capitol has about 7 times as many murders.

7 times as many murders but 20% of the size!

TOTALLY FINE! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
 
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Yeah you totally showed us all goat!!

Put it this way. Starkville is 5 times larger than the area I’m referring to around the capitol.
The area around the capitol has about 7 times as many murders.

7 times as many murders but 20% of the size!

TOTALLY FINE! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

I'm not entering into this slap fight, but it strikes me that taking a very bad part of a metro area and comparing it to an entire small college town is not particularly valid for determining much.

But yes, Jackson has a major murder problem
Why don't we all sleep now and dream of victory over UT.
 

paindonthurt

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I'm not entering into this slap fight, but it strikes me that taking a very bad part of a metro area and comparing it to an entire small college town is not particularly valid for determining much.

But yes, Jackson has a major murder problem
Why don't we all sleep now and dream of victory over UT.
Yes not a great comparison but you get the point. Obviously goat is too stupid to realize murders are bad.

The point of the comparison is if you took the small part of the metro area and put that number of murders in Starkville people would freak the 17 out and rightfully.

Now cram those murders into 5 square miles and…..
 

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If you look around the country at cities with similar demographics to Jackson and Memphis, they all have bad things in common since the early 90's. And it's not about a single election. It's the same story over and over and it's not fixable until the ones suffering decide to stop the cycle of self destructive decisions.

Bbbbut it's your fault not theres..........
 
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Darryl Steight

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It's hard to see now, but at the time it was proposed, I think that it could have been a totally different downtown if the City had a brain in its head and instead of trying to directly profit from it, had a little vision for what it could indirectly bring in.
And it wasn't just the baseball stadium... Those same types of decisions had already been made over and over by Jackson, missing several large opportunities that would have built and maintained momentum, not to mention game-changing tax revenue, housing and job opportunities.

Northpark Mall was supposed to be on the Jackson side of CLR. Worldcom headquarters wanted to build downtown, but the city wouldn't work with them. The baseball stadium along with Bass Pro and the outlets could have been within the city limits but the city didn't put up much of a fight against Pearl. Say what you want about the fate of Northpark and Worldcom, but all those projects (among others) were huge for the communities they landed in and it helped suck the life out of the capital city. State agencies would currently be centralized in the state capital instead of Clinton, Brandon, Madison. Projects like Topgolf could have landed in Jackson in this alternate reality where leaders made good decisions back then.

If those and others were originally kept in Jackson, the city would have had a lot more money, people, momentum, etc. over the decades that would have helped keep policing and infrastructure stronger, which would have led to more taxpayers living and working here for the last 40 years. Those were absolutely city- and consequently state-changing decisions (and/or lack of effort) by city leaders.
 
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