#2 should read something like, "find a DA who won't be prosecuted himself while in office." Last couple ones didn't meet that criteria
OT: Jackson is 1st and worst in homicides
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Do you understand what that chart is showing? It's pretty clear that the majority of murders were NOT happening in downtown.
And also, the Capitol Police was not formed to control crime "where it was happening". They were formed to control crime in DOWNTOWN. The hope was that JPD could obviously ramp up patrols with the extra personnel, but that was secondary to keeping the downtown area clear.
The crime trend in down in both places, as it is across the country. That's why Jackson is still #1 in murder rate, the whole reason this thread was started.
But certainly the CP have helped downtown, which is why I said TateR knows what he is doing. Now we need everyone else to do their part and start coming back to downtown Jackson, and investing in downtown Jackson.
So policing where crime is works? Got it! Thanks for agreeing goat! Way to use those 89 IQ points!!!
1.They're doing a pretty good job with Capitol Police. They need more money to hire more cops and they can take over more areas of the city. JPD needs more funding to hire more officers. They're severely understaffed and they can work hand in hand with Cap PD. They also need to invest better in the 911 call centers. There have been reports of calls being unanswered due to staffing issues, calls being transferred then dropped, and JPD/Cap PD not knowing which jurisdiction it's in so police being no shows.
2. This is the biggest issue here. They need more DAs, better judges, and more jails to house the criminals. I would estimate that most of Jacksons murders have been committed by criminals out on bond for murder already. I know bail isn't set to keep criminals in jail but something needs to be done. If you commit a serious crime you need to stay in jail until your trial.
3-5. See my first point
If Jackson can clean up the crime I think the investments will happen. It's going to take time and money but I believe it can happen.
I may be simple but my IQ is 20 points higher than yours easily so thats gotta make you one of the dumbest SOBs ever.
The saddest part to me wasn't the age itself, but the lack of access they have to decent parenting. I wandered around with my pellet gun pretty much every day, from a young age. When out in the "country" at my grandparent's house, I could wander in and out of the house with whatever I chose from the gun rack so long as I had ammo. My grandmother would take me to Hadad's if I had money and let me buy whatever ammo I wanted. I was taught how to carry a gun safely, sanctity of human life and the axiom that you never pointed a gun at anything that you were not prepared to shoot.
I mean i don't hate a plea deal but the punishment has to fit the crime and the punishment has to be progressively worse each offense.
This is kind of along the lines of something I've thought about recently.
As far as the gun talk, which area do you believe has a higher percentage of gun ownership? The city of Jackson, or Rankin County? I have no numbers. I don't know where to find them, but I'd lean toward Rankin County having a higher percentage of gun ownership and guns per household than Jackson. Yet Rankin County is one of the safest places not just in Mississippi, but anywhere.
It's not the guns. It is a combination of poverty, absent fathers, and judges who put violent criminals back on the street.
There is also a direct correlation in the spike in crime shown in the graph above to an ankle monitor in lieu of bail system put into place by the last Mayor early in his first term. That disaster of an idea is not talked about enough.
There are plenty of reasons why, but I think that if any of us could look in the mirror and honestly ask ourselves how we would have turned out if we did not have a single adult in our lives that was a positive role model and were left to basically raise ourselves. I suspect that is so far from most of our reality that we can't really make that mental leap. I was reading when I went to kindergarten because of my mother. That might be one of the biggest legs up I could've gotten. I'd like to think I would have just bootstrapped myself on up, but the reality is that bootstrapping is not reality.
Its easy to just say "hire more police", but how do you actually accomplish that? Low wages, a seemingly never ending stream of threats both from citizens and non-citizens who aren't punished, and the general dangers of dealing with those with no regard or care for law. How exactly do you grow a PD under that environment?
Yeah, and let me correct my comment because I should've stated "lawful access to guns". My point was intended to be more about extremely young kids getting pulled into gang activity as opposed to there being a deer rifle in the house.
Right, and having the knowledge of how to add a switch to them to make them automatic, etc.
and we had pistols too!
mostly though we shot 22 rifles because ammo was cheap and it held a lot more of it for punishing cans and such. We all saw the westerns where the guys revolver just clicked on a spent round...My thoughts, as a person who lives in jxn, but is not from here and have lived all over the state. As Jackson goes, so will MS. I think until the rest of the state understands this, we will continue to not reach our potential. There is very little tax base, most of the homes are rentals, and businesses have left. All were justifiable in doing so. I think politicians should propose a VAT statewide where the funds go to restore/police Jxn. Can't just turn them over to the locals, but have an appointed member to the city council and a co-governing arrangement. I know that is way outside the box, but imagine what a vibrant and growing capital city would do for MS. The funding is just not there for them to do it on their own.
As long as I can get from the Pearl River to my office in the morning and from my office back across the Pearl River in the evening, I don't care what happens to Jackson. Their voters are dumbasses. It's all on them. They can do something about everything wrong in Jackson at the voting booth. They keep voting for the same stupid type people. One election could fix it all. But they are really ignorant. So screw them.
love the nooga....wouldn't have said that 20 years ago.
Not sure what I'd do in Jackson, MS even if it was crime free.
Bad POV, but 80% of Mississippians think like you. Just give me mine, 17 the rest.
If you're actually serious about that statement, that's one of the sillier things I've read on here. One election's gonna fix Jackson??
ONly thing I can do is move to Jackson and become a voter. Other than that, it's out of my hands.
It takes one election for those dumbasses to know they have been wrong and keep voting correctly.
"I think having a mayor who actually cares about it is a step in the right direction. But they need a DA and judges who care."
I nominate...........
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I have no idea how it could be done, but somehow convincing children and adults who can't take care of themselves to stop having children they can't and won't take care of is how fixing it starts. That has to start among the people who are in the communities where too much of that keeps happening.
Can’t fix the whole city. But you can help with patroning downtown businesses.
As someone who has worked in DT Jxn for 30+ years (and still does), DT is not dangerous at all. There's little crime, although homeless do pass though as Gateway Mission is nearby.
DT is deserted though, it was vibrant in the mid 90s with folks everywhere, now it's largely abandoned. There's no bringing back the professional firms, as they have invested in infrastructure in Flowood, Madison Ridgeland. Just drive Highland Colony Parkway and you see several buildings of firms that once populated DT.
Building the ballpark DT wouldn't have made difference, it would have been mismanaged and sit empty most of the time, much like the Convention Center.
I'd like to see an entertainment district DT, Beale Street on a much small scale (I know that failed on Farish St). City/State leaders would have to be willing to invest in over the top security though, and I doubt that would happen. I was recently in Austin, the police presence downtown near the bars, restaurants and clubs was impressive.
Just curious where you live or work? There is not a lot of crime downtown, if you consider DT the area from N State to thew train tracks between the state capitol and convention center.
Look at Little Rock, Montgomery, etc all redeveloped their core business district around water. hopefully, the corp gets its right.
If you think anyone north of 82 give two flaming dog turds about Jackson, you’d be mistaken. A VAT would be yet another welfare program. North MS has its share of poverty. I don’t see a linear correlation with crime. It’s culture. No amount of money will fix it. Force the people there to at least pay their water bills and move on.
No question that the first step is total alignment of the city and state.
We know you don’t care about Jackson. Neither do people on the Coast. But as said many times before, it’s vital to have an urban core inside the state limits. That will eventually help Mississippi State, which we ALL care about.
Jackson is the only chance. Tupelo and Gulfport simply don’t have that capability, at least not in our lifetimes.
Now again, if the majority don’t care about that or won’t accept it, by all means, let’s just be a rural state. Focus our student recruiting heavily on Memphis, Huntsville and Birmingham, because those places at least can ‘reproduce’ students and alumni. And heck may not be a bad idea anyway, since it appears that anybody can compete once in a while in this new era of sports. Bama is done being dominant.
When Dale Danks finished up Jackson started to finish up.
If you look around the country at cities with similar demographics to Jackson and Memphis, they all have bad things in common since the early 90's. And it's not about a single election. It's the same story over and over and it's not fixable until the ones suffering decide to stop the cycle of self destructive decisions.
Had this discussion with some friends recently on factors that contributed to the demise of downtown. Aside from Jackson’s overall crime and political issues, the consensus was that the downfall of Worldcom and the fact that Skytel just kind of disappeared were two issues that Jackson never recovered from. Deposit Guaranty selling didn’t help either. Those three used a ton of downtown space and provided a ton of jobs. When those disappeared so did downtown Jackson. Kudos to those that hung in like Trustmark but the clock started ticking as soon as Bernie’s *** was exposed