OT: Longtimefan Strike

[T-TownDawgg]

Just want to let you all know I absolutely will not be attending a game at DWS this week.

And wanted to post this right 17in now like a petty bizznatch so everyone can agree that this thread is in fact on the front page

 

[L4Dawg]

Since I didn't get in the other one, the demands the longshoremen are making are totally insane. Our fans need to chill. This is maybe the worst rebuild we have ever had to do.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Our fans need to chill. This is maybe the worst rebuild we have ever had to do.

"Give Croom time"

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Since I didn't get in the other one, the demands the longshoremen are making are totally insane. Our fans need to chill. This is maybe the worst rebuild we have ever had to do.

I totally get asking for better pay but what they are asking for is off the charts crazy.

 

[HailStout]

I totally get asking for better pay but what they are asking for is off the charts crazy.

I’m with you. I get you want to aim high so when you compromise you get what you actually want, but you can aim so high that the other side just tells you to F off

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

They are working in Gulfport

 

[Dawgzilla2]

I wanted to have a word with the UPS employee in the other thread who "doesn't remember" what snagged up supplies in 2020 and 2021...

 

[ckDOG]

Can we automate the roster? #NILsolutions

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

They are working in Gulfport

Apparently Mississippi isn’t included or maybe they aren’t unionized?

 

[L4Dawg]

I totally get asking for better pay but what they are asking for is off the charts crazy.

Exactly, but that's not all. The no automation demand is just unworkable. You have ports all over the world doing that. We can't be left in the stone age like they are demanding.

 

[mstateglfr]

I totally get asking for better pay but what they are asking for is off the charts crazy.

Yeah, asking for better pay and asking to protect jobs from automation are totally understandable from an employee's perspective.
...the details though?...those are pretty dang high.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Apparently Mississippi isn’t included or maybe they aren’t unionized?

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This is port strike locations, and I'm not sure we have a major port, as such.

 

[mstateglfr]

Just want to let you all know I absolutely will not be attending a game at DWS this week.

And wanted to post this right 17in now like a petty bizznatch so everyone can agree that this thread is in fact on the front page

^ appreciate the effort to make the references and tie to MSU. Strong work.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

Not sure the difference between longshoremen and stevedoors, but I can tell you that the little interaction I have had with stevedoors has landed them in the category of laziest pieces of shìt I have ever dealt with. I hope they all lose everything and are forced to go get a real job.

In general, if you are in a union of any kind, you are promoting laziness. Low achievers thrive in unions where seniority rules the day and work ethic and ability are inconsequential.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Exactly, but that's not all. The no automation demand is just unworkable. You have ports all over the world doing that. We can't be left in the stone age like they are demanding.

Sounds like we're going to be speeding up the automation

And by we, I mean all of us, with the price hikes

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

This is port strike locations, and I'm not sure we have a major port, as

Apparently Mississippi isn’t included or maybe they aren’t unionized?

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The workers at the port of Gulfport are definitely union and were supposed to be included. The local (ILA) was meeting on Saturday to decide whether they would defy the national unions strike and if so what were the consequences. They either decided to defy the strike order or they have some members that chose to work. I know that the fruit companies order labor from the 3rd party (Ports of America) which is union daily and they have labor working this morning.

 

[ckDOG]

Yeah, asking for better pay and asking to protect jobs from automation are totally understandable from an employee's perspective.
...the details though?...those are pretty dang high.

Feels like this particular union has too much influence over too large of a component of the supply chain and does more harm than good. Their competition is different modes of transportation or geographic locations cost prohibitive distances away.

I'm willing to listen to a good case as to how they are being taken advantage of, but I'm leaning hard into them coming out on the losing end of this. Asking for zero automation is a non-starter for me. That's just stupid. I'd also tell them not to expect much in the way of public sympathy given the timing during an east coast state of emergency and rebuild process.

 

[Xenomorph]

The world is about to be 17ed.. maybe not as bad as Covid but dammit.

I’m waiting on 2 containers from India that are supposed to hit the dock tomorrow. They are already 9 days late because the ship went around Africa instead of through the Suez because of the Houthis.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Feels like this particular union has too much influence over too large of a component of the supply chain and does more harm than good. Their competition is different modes of transportation or geographic locations cost prohibitive distances away.

I'm willing to listen to a good case as to how they are being taken advantage of, but I'm leaning hard into them coming out on the losing end of this. Asking for zero automation is a non-starter for me. That's just stupid. I'd also tell them not to expect much in the way of public sympathy given the timing during an east coast state of emergency and rebuild process.

I feel like with their demands they know they have a lot of the country by the balls if they go on strike. Sounds like a good recipe for being hated by just about everyone. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

^ appreciate the effort to make the references and tie to MSU. Strong work.

With our history, not sure if I should like your post as a compliment or blast you for a poor attempt at sarcasm

 

[Ranchdawg]

According to the news Gulfport and Pascagoula are definitely include in the strike. Gulfport officials are hoping negotiations finalize before midnight or they will be shut down. Pascagoula said they are about 50% union and 50% non union. They said the non union workers will keep the port open and it will be business as usual.

 

[johnson86-1]

Yeah, asking for better pay and asking to protect jobs from automation are totally understandable from an employee's perspective.
...the details though?...those are pretty dang high.

Wanting to ask to protect jobs from automation is an understandable impulse, but actually asking for it just shows a union that is off its rocker. The way for the union to handle automation is to have members pay into a fund to give some transition pay to people automated out (or I guess more realistically, have the employers pay into it so they can pretend it's not coming at the expense of lower take home pay for the members).

 

[mstateglfr]

With our history, not sure if I should like your post as a compliment or blast you for a poor attempt at sarcasm

Take comfort in knowing I always use ** when applicable.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I totally get asking for better pay but what they are asking for is off the charts crazy.

Absolutely assures that the companies impacted will double down on automation research and implementation.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I’m with you. I get you want to aim high so when you compromise you get what you actually want, but you can aim so high that the other side just tells you to F off

I insist that @dawgstudent pays me $1MM per post for my insight!!!!!!!

 

[horshack.sixpack]

The world is about to be 17ed.. maybe not as bad as Covid but dammit.

I’m waiting on 2 containers from India that are supposed to hit the dock tomorrow. They are already 9 days late because the ship went around Africa instead of through the Suez because of the Houthis.

I didn't realize the Suez was not viable. Perhaps the Houthis should do some research on what happened last time the Suez was impacted by geopolitical ambition...

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Wanting to ask to protect jobs from automation is an understandable impulse, but actually asking for it just shows a union that is off its rocker. The way for the union to handle automation is to have members pay into a fund to give some transition pay to people automated out (or I guess more realistically, have the employers pay into it so they can pretend it's not coming at the expense of lower take home pay for the members).

Yep. Pay us for training on automation functionality, repair and maintenance, etc.

 

[johnson86-1]

Yep. Pay us for training on automation functionality, repair and maintenance, etc.

I think that sounds good, but you'd probably be more successful just giving them essentially a buyout if/when their job gets automated away.

The ones that are capable of doing higher skilled work are going to be able to find a way to get the training they need. Too many people need the workers.

The ones that aren't capable of doing higher skilled work aren't going to be helped by offering training for skills they just aren't going to be able to acquire.