OT: NIL implications in light of the Rashada situation

[Patriot321]

I hope all the true college football fans are enjoying all these NIL/transfer portal "discussions", how much $$ all these kids will be making, and how many kids are leaving the team every year thru the portal! It is so much fun talking about this chaos and insanity!!! I mean how could we have ever been entertained by discussing recruiting class rankings, the possible record of next year's team, who the starting QB and RB's will be, the actual playing ability of the incoming freshmen, which coaches should be replaced, football x's and o's, all that boring amateur athletic on-the-field stuff and the upcoming spring game, on and on. Thank goodness we no longer need to talk about actual football anymore, this NIL agent contract stuff and the transfer portal chaos is just so much more entertaining. @sarcasm.

 

[BattleshipTexas]

I don't think a regulation that the kid has to be enrolled a year before any NIL deal is made is unreasonable.

Certainly reasonable to you and me, but expressly in violation of the Supreme Court's ruling unfortunately. Read the ruling. The NCAA can't interfere with NIL deals.

 

[Lurker123]

Certainly reasonable to you and me, but expressly in violation of the Supreme Court's ruling unfortunately. Read the ruling. The NCAA can't interfere with NIL deals.

It's been pointed repeatedly that the schools and NCAA can't touch the NIL, you are right about that. They officially can't be involved in at all, which means they can't withhold it either.

It's almost impossible to keep that money out of initial recruiting, but schools could limit the tampering and transferring by using the rules they can affect, like eligibility and transfer rules.

 

[Anon1671602102]

Nothing happens at UF Football that UF Football doesn't have first hand knowledge and approval of.

The first problem with NIL is that it exists at all and the inequity among the players which creates a "me first" non-team atmosphere. If the court says players have to be paid, pay them equally and maintain the team atmosphere. Those who excel are being given the opportunity/forum to sell their skills to the highest bidder at the NFL level, not at the college recruiting level. Instead of signing with the college paying the most $$ to sign an LOI, you sign with the college you think gives you the best opportunity to show off your talent.
Second problem is the lack of rules and lack of enforcement of the few rules which do exist - which may be very limited with an equal pay rule.

No one’s going for equal pay. No way the clowneys, Jalen hurts etc of the college football world should get paid what a 4th stringer gets paid.

 

[Prestonyte]

No one’s going for equal pay. No way the clowneys, Jalen hurts etc of the college football world should get paid what a 4th stringer gets paid.

Why not, if set up that way as a requirement for all. College athletics is not the NFL. Pay them all something equally to meet court ordered requirements but stop the crazy bidding to sign a LOI. They get their proven worth as a pro, not to play in college.

 

[BattleshipTexas]

No one’s going for equal pay. No way the clowneys, Jalen hurts etc of the college football world should get paid what a 4th stringer gets paid.

Starting qb and deep snapper paid the same? Nope. Arch Manning vs a 2-star just lucky to be offered? Nope.

 

[KingWard]

Be enrolled for at least one year before eligible for NIL for starters.
Some kind of penalty if they transfer, ie return a % of the NIL, return any gifts (i.e. cars).

I think the Supreme Court ruling probably blows up the first one. The second one would suppose that these NIL deals were direct play-for-pay somehow connected with schools, which is illegal and would fall under the purview of the NCAA.

To be best of my understanding. what an entity like Jim Hudson does on NIL is outside the reach of the NCAA. So, if Jim Hudson has a player deal go sour, that's on them. They need to seek their own recourse, if there is any to be had.

Really, what they need to do is to find smarter ways to spend their advertising dollars currently assigned to buying players.

 

[KingWard]

Why not, if set up that way as a requirement for all. College athletics is not the NFL. Pay them all something equally to meet court ordered requirements but stop the crazy bidding to sign a LOI. They get their proven worth as a pro, not to play in college.

There is no such court-ordered requirement devolving upon schools. There's no guarantee of equal payment with regard to NIL, which is market-driven and subject to the whims of the people putting up the money. Now, if you want to go along with the proposal in California to make players university employees, and use that mechanism to pay everyone equally, quite possibly a ruinous idea, then have at it.

 

[Prestonyte]

Paying high school athletes NFL type money to sign a college LOI is craziness.
Moving the professional pay day for quality athletes up 3-4 years before they have proven anything at the college level makes no sense to anyone but the NFL - because they get a fully functional farm system for free when they should be paying the bill.
Does anyone believe NIL and the colleges they represent are truly separate entities in anything other than theory?

 

[Anon1671602102]

Paying high school athletes NFL type money to sign a college LOI is craziness.
Moving the professional pay day for quality athletes up 3-4 years before they have proven anything at the college level makes no sense to anyone but the NFL - because they get a fully functional farm system for free when they should be paying the bill.
Does anyone believe NIL and the colleges they represent are truly separate entities in anything other than theory?

In some cases, yes I do. It’s also not just a theory. They are legally separated, period. Being legal is the only thing that matters in the end.

 

[Prestonyte]

In some cases, yes I do. It’s also not just a theory. They are legally separated, period. Being legal is the only thing that matters in the end.

Legally separated yes, but independent, no. NIL does nothing the college is not aware of and in agreement with.

 

[Lurker123]

Legally separated yes, but independent, no. NIL does nothing the college is not aware of and in agreement with.

Agreed. This is the difference between the official line, and what's really happening.

 

[Patriot321]

There is no such court-ordered requirement devolving upon schools. There's no guarantee of equal payment with regard to NIL, which is market-driven and subject to the whims of the people putting up the money. Now, if you want to go along with the proposal in California to make players university employees, and use that mechanism to pay everyone equally, quite possibly a ruinous idea, then have at it.

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