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I don’t understand why MSM steers clear of this topic and refuse to bring attention to it. Worldwide it is estimated that 20-25 million are victims of human trafficking and over 50 million in situations of slavery. This should be at the forefront
Having millions of undocumented people in this country is having bad consequences for the nation and those individuals themselves.
I’m skeptical of the term “human trafficking”. Pretty sure that covers everything from shortpaying a contractor to women being captured in Ukraine and sold in Brussels. We also have tons and tons of laws against this stuff.
Seems like a moral panic more than anything.
Seems like a moral panic more than anything.
I have a theory
Is Nevada so high bc prostitution is legal?
trafficking sucks and should be punished severely But if you are voluntarily being a prostitute you aren’t a victim
It’s a problem but I agree in that not all of what they call “trafficking” is trafficking
even if it’s illegal if a person is voluntarily selling themselves they aren’t trafficked or victims.
it’s not like a bunch of pimps are still running around forcing hookers into prostitution. I’m sure that happens but many cases women do it for the money.
Tons and tons of laws doesn’t mean **** when lawmakers are involved
If you’re interested in the topic, You’re Wring About podcast has a good episode on the topic.
Well that's because "human trafficking" consist of prostitution and massage parlors that give happy endings. It's just a cooler word like custodial engineer. But at the end of the day they are just locking up sex workers. They aren't rescuing kidnapped women and children that are being forced into sex slaves.
Go to Wal mart and take count the number of Latin Americans in there that don't speak English. I just had a roof put on my house. There were 20 Mexicans doing the labor. Only one spoke any type of English. You know they are making top dollar. There was human trafficking going on at my house. I asked the Roofer do they work for him, and he said no. There about five groups that roofers hire to do the job. They pay a flat fee to the group and the group leader takes care of them. Once they were finish, I asked him what if one fall off my roof and gets hurt? He said he would take responsibility. I took stock in what he said. I am not sure his bond and insurance would protect me from some group he hired to do the job. They were not his employed. The did a good job.
I would imagine there are states ranked lower than Miss that is higher than us. They just don't go after them. They let it ride. Go to the source and it say they were going by what was reported.
I have met multiple people who’ve been trafficked. It didn’t seem like a moral panic to them. Seemed very real.
Drug cartels are making more money from getting people across the border than drugs.
This border situation has created an expanded market where they take money from vulnerable people up front, extract whatever they can on the way by means of coercion, and demand more if anything goes wrong. Many women are raped and have to turn sex work just to complete the trip.
This open border, although sold to liberals as human rights experiment, has streamlined a trafficking network and made it extremely profitable for evil to prey upon the “poor and huddled masses” without limits, and with little chance of any prosecution. It has created more human misery and exploitation than can ever be quantified.
This border situation has created an expanded market where they take money from vulnerable people up front, extract whatever they can on the way by means of coercion, and demand more if anything goes wrong. Many women are raped and have to turn sex work just to complete the trip.
This open border, although sold to liberals as human rights experiment, has streamlined a trafficking network and made it extremely profitable for evil to prey upon the “poor and huddled masses” without limits, and with little chance of any prosecution. It has created more human misery and exploitation than can ever be quantified.
Article suggested that the legality of the industry created an easy avenue for underaged girls to get pulled in.
I just don't understand prostitution much. Too many people willing to do it for free to be paying for it.
From Homeland Security...
Glory- what was happening atop your roof?
Seriously though, were the workers forced to work? Were the workers coerced into working? Was there fraud taking place atop your roof?
Go read the entire article. It says if you are paying a foreign non-English-speaking worker less than minimum wage you are human trafficking. I was saying it is possible those workers on my roof did not get paid a proper wage.
Ouch. Glfr got to be blistered by that burn.
Sex work is one of the biggest problems with it. I’ve listened to many women talk of their ordeal and fight to get away from their “handlers“.
I challenge you to find someone who has been human trafficked and tell them it really isn’t that big of a deal.
I challenge you to find someone who has been human trafficked and tell them it really isn’t that big of a deal.
I should know more, but I know that we are a significant pipeline for the rest of the country in Austin. Not something I'm very proud of.
Human trafficking is a stretch if sex work or child exploitation not involved.
Migrant workers are purely demand vs supply. When I built my retirement house several years ago my contractor had to use migrant labor just to get done. Used them for sheetrock and roofing. Best, quickest job of any of the subs. Beat the hell out of the ten thumbed rednecks who only wanted to get through the day with a half assed job so they could get off at 3 and go deer hunting or fishing. And don't dare complain about the work that they do. Sad that work ethic has vacated many Americans.
Migrant workers are purely demand vs supply. When I built my retirement house several years ago my contractor had to use migrant labor just to get done. Used them for sheetrock and roofing. Best, quickest job of any of the subs. Beat the hell out of the ten thumbed rednecks who only wanted to get through the day with a half assed job so they could get off at 3 and go deer hunting or fishing. And don't dare complain about the work that they do. Sad that work ethic has vacated many Americans.
I definitely didn't read that in the original link or the secondary link.
Where is it?
Exploiting someone so they work in poor conditions or for poor pay certainly can potentially be trafficking, but from what I have learned, that isn't necessarily trafficking.
The original link? https://www.voronoiapp.com/crime/Mapped-US-States-With-the-Most-Human-Trafficking-Victims-2908
The link that the original link was based off of?
Which U.S. States Have Had the Most Human Trafficking Victims Over the Past 5 Years?
Which U.S. States Have Had the Most Human Trafficking Victims Over the Past 5 Years? Human Trafficking Statistics 2024 We, the team at Joslyn Law Firm, |
www.criminalattorneycolumbus.com
Who said that it was ok?
Y'all are some heartless bastards.
So what percentage of human trafficking is okay with y'all. "It's Just a little bit of slavery."
When you are arguing that the number is higher than it should be because some of those people WANT to be in the sex industry, you are at least looking for an excuse.
No I’m not looking for an excuse.
im saying definitely if someone chooses to be in the sex industry (many do), they aren’t being trafficked.
that’s a fact. You might not like it but it is a fact.
Exactly! Only on SPS would we pick apart languanfe to try to make it seem OKer. It’s a bad category, bad stat no matter the specific definition, and MS is third place for worst in the country. That’s the point.
Y'all are some heartless bastards.
So what percentage of human trafficking is okay with y'all. "It's Just a little bit of slavery."
In many cases, even the by choice, legal sex workers come from abusive childhoods. Nobody ever aspired to be a sex worker. It’s a place you end up, not one you choose, like a normal career.
And all those strippers are just working their way through medical school.
So you are telling me that not one in 2 ish million prostitutes in the USA didn’t chose it? What about girls on onlyfans?
I don't know if 'the girls' are forced to work in Las Vegas because I don't know who you are referring to.
Are you asking about literally every dancer in Vegas or some specific group?
Either way though, dancers is Vegas have nothing to do with my comments in this thread. I commented on roofers and asked why/how it was known that the roofers were trafficked.
My point is the statistics don’t really tell a true story.
Nevada is no doubt so high bc prostitution is legal in Las Vegas area.
Voluntarily being a prostitution isn’t trafficking.
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