Would not be stupid enough to go on an anonymous, meaningless message board and ask for financial or medical advice. But you go girl...and knock yourself out!
OT: the American auto industry is about to experience its death rattle. (link)
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And here I thought you fellows were just being haughty and disdainful snobs
My response posted before I finished and couldn’t delete to modify. Look again
Now you know why I come here for the laughs! One needs a place like this...
The future is in companies that engineer and build seawalls
OK, they aren’t rising all the scientists are wrong. Happy now?Little….
The Seas are Rising, The Seas are Rising
NASA Sea Level Change Portal
The Seas are Rising, The Seas are Rising
Hey fellows, I was being a little factious….
Being a civil/structural guy, I did work with hydrology and large storm events and realized 25 yrs ago the rising elevations in the oceans. I use to tell people that on day that the Jersey Shore will be at the base of the Pocono mts.
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Holy ****...NASA is in the portal. We are screwed!
I have this workshop scheduled for January:
Climate Change, Infrastructure Design, and Rainfall Statistics
Presenter: Daniel B. Wright, PhD; Assistant Professor; Hydroclimate Extremes Research Group – Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
When? Thursday, January 20, 2022
Cost? Free for members
Description: There is overwhelming evidence that rainfall extremes are growing more severe due to human-induced climate warming. This understanding, however, has not translated into actionable information needed by hydrologists and engineers. In this presentation, we will see that existing rainfall intensity-duration-frequency (IDF) statistics such as the “100-year storm”—for example, from NOAA’s Atlas 14 project—are often inadequate for current and future needs. This translates to serious deficiencies in our hydrologic design standards and infrastructure. We will discuss two solutions to address this challenge for both current and future conditions. From there, we’ll see what other states are doing to rise to that challenge, and close with some thoughts on the hurdles that scientists, practicing engineers, and decision makers must break down together to secure our communities against future rainfall.
Now we're expecting a review of the workshop on Friday, January 21, 2022.
At 5 o'clock with beer!
Depending on the administration, you may or may not be able to say ‘climate change.’ But ‘climate resiliency’? Yes. Including the last administration.
I have to wonder if the environmental impact of EVs take into account the mining of minerals for the batteries, the refining of said minerals, and the eventual environmental impact of disposal of those batteries in the future?
My initial thought is who's buying a Chinese made automobile? I understand we all buy Chinese products every time we walk into Walmart but an automobile? I buy American whenever possible and couldn't stomach buying a communist made vehicle.
and there was a time when the Appalachians were taller than the Himalayas
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There are a lot of things we don’t know. One thing I’ve learned, everything comes at a price.
"NFW" is dam right. If your worried Chinese built cars flooding the market, well remember the Yugo!!!!
I remember the Yugo!! I was a Penn State student when the Yugo hit the US market. I've never been much of a car guy but even I noticed when I saw a couple of those things driving around State College. I was like, "WTF is that??"
A lot of the same concerns were raised when hybrids started to become somewhat popular.
I've looked at the disposal of EV batteries, and it seems to be better than most might imagine. Let's look at Tesla. They recycle their batteries. The lithium and the cobalt in the batteries is quite valuable, so from a financial perspective it makes sense to recycle the battery. Plus, a large percentage of those that purchase Tesla cars are doing so for environment reasons, so there is a lot of good will earned by Tesla by recycling their batteries. Toyota did pretty much the same thing (set up a program to recycle all their hybrid batteries) when they started to dominate the hybrid market.
This recent article talks about the subject on a larger scale (i.e., beyond just Tesla):
Cars Are Going Electric. What Happens to the Used Batteries?
Used electric vehicle batteries could be the Achilles' heel of the transportation revolution—or the gold mine that makes it real.
I haven't looked at the other issues you raised as much, so I'll hold off on commenting on them.
If it's in non-US countries, you can probably wager the bare minimum is being done. I think I've read China has a large stake in it in the countries its mined. How are they about pollution and long term cause/effect?
Ford GM Chrysler making chips .... doubt it ... doubt any OEMs are making chips - that's a 2+ year process to set up
Cars sitting on lots waiting for boards that contain chips - very true, drove by 1000s of vehicles on the site of the old Palace in Auburn Hills today
Ford will be making their own chips through a partnership with Global Foundries. Not sure of start date,
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the two companies were pretty sparse with details when they announced their collaboration in November. It wasn't even clear from the announcement that Ford would be making chips.
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Ford, GlobalFoundries say they will work together to boost chip supply
Ford Motor Co and chip manufacturer GlobalFoundries Inc on Thursday said they plan to work together to boost supplies for the automaker's vehicles and the broader U.S. auto industry but gave few details about what the deal entails.
www.reuters.com
The mining of the metals for the batteries are not environmentally friendly at all. Very small extraction rate per ton of rock mined. Horrible water quality from the mine. Huge land acreages destroyed by the mine. I honestly don't know that much about the refining process.
I believe the batteries qualify as hazardous waste, so if not recycled they need special disposal facilities.
Not to mention, you still need electricity to charge the batteries. Which puts more load on some already strained power grids.
But hey, the tree huggers feel better.
Thankfully we have the fossil fuel industry looking after our water and air quality then.
The fossil fuel industry impacts water and air quality, but metals mining is worse.Thankfully we have the fossil fuel industry looking after our water and air quality then.
Nonetheless, it's the macroeconomic view and there's no denying our hunger for cheap, Chinese-made product in insatiable. Reserve the tunnel vision for chartists.
In the interest of full disclosure, I am short on the current batch of EVs due to Moore's Law as it applies to battery technology. It's in a constant state of flux and this one presents an environmental hazard greater than gasoline. But never fear, solid state batteries are coming. They're lighter than liquified batteries which means they're range-extenders and charge twice as fast. That last part will be important when you're faced with the decision of recharging at a station located in a "disadvantaged neighborhood." Never has one seen a public policy proposal as screwed up as that one! "Yes, by all means, let's fill-up and get mugged while we're at it." More xenophobic thinking brought to you from inside-the-beltway. Your tax dollars hard at work.
Once again I may just be old fashioned, but I think there are still enough real Americans left in this country to support an American Auto industry. A communist Chinese junk just ain’t gonna cut it at this time.
Has anyone looked at Buicks lately? The models I looked at are 100% Chinese made. GM built a plant there and is sourcing all of the components. So, the Chinese were trained how to build a car from Americans. If you think this is bad that a look at Comac. A chinese aircraft company that will directly compete with Boeing from commercial aircraft. All components for the first 100 airplanes are being (re)-designed by US aircraft suppliers in the "hope" of getting follow-on orders. The only thing they are doing is training the chinese how to build an aircraft that will pass FAA testing requirements and regulations.
The big question is why has the world bank allowed the Chinese Yuan conversion to remain at US$1.00 to 6 - 7 RMB for the past 15 years, when it should have been around 2 RMB to the dollar.
The big question is why has the world bank allowed the Chinese Yuan conversion to remain at US$1.00 to 6 - 7 RMB for the past 15 years, when it should have been around 2 RMB to the dollar.
You managed to pack a whole lot of disinformation into a single post, even for you. Congratulations!Nonetheless, it's the macroeconomic view and there's no denying our hunger for cheap, Chinese-made product in insatiable. Reserve the tunnel vision for chartists.
In the interest of full disclosure, I am short on the current batch of EVs due to Moore's Law as it applies to battery technology. It's in a constant state of flux and this one presents an environmental hazard greater than gasoline. But never fear, solid state batteries are coming. They're lighter than liquified batteries which means they're range-extenders and charge twice as fast. That last part will be important when you're faced with the decision of recharging at a station located in a "disadvantaged neighborhood." Never has one seen a public policy proposal as screwed up as that one! "Yes, by all means, let's fill-up and get mugged while we're at it." More xenophobic thinking brought to you from inside-the-beltway. Your tax dollars hard at work.
Thanks, interesting articleNonetheless, it's the macroeconomic view and there's no denying our hunger for cheap, Chinese-made product in insatiable. Reserve the tunnel vision for chartists.
In the interest of full disclosure, I am short on the current batch of EVs due to Moore's Law as it applies to battery technology. It's in a constant state of flux and this one presents an environmental hazard greater than gasoline. But never fear, solid state batteries are coming. They're lighter than liquified batteries which means they're range-extenders and charge twice as fast. That last part will be important when you're faced with the decision of recharging at a station located in a "disadvantaged neighborhood." Never has one seen a public policy proposal as screwed up as that one! "Yes, by all means, let's fill-up and get mugged while we're at it." More xenophobic thinking brought to you from inside-the-beltway. Your tax dollars hard at work.
Oil industry mouthpiece? What I typed is from my 20 years experience working around the mining and environmental industries. Using actual data. I can't help it you don't accept reality.
Have you ever looked up the size of the average surface coal mine vs a metals mine? Have you ever seen the impacts of waste materials from these? Ever put together a plan to remediate mining impacts?
I see and deal with the impacts of the days of unregulated coal mining every day. Mining today in the US is regulated to minimize environmental impacts. You think all the foreign metal mining operations are limiting impacts to the environment?
Well we ”tree huggers“, aka as environmentally concerned, know all that. Mining, though necessary, like most human activity, has impacts that require preventive measures. Your derogatory comment shows you are a mouthpiece, just for a different industry than I surmised.
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