But hey, you still have that cute little 3.6L engine to haul stuff with, and those thin aluminum bed walls that you can bust up.
OT: truck sales from Ford and GM
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I like the look, but their software sucks. Ford sync is the gold standard (I'm not a ford guy either).
I agree on tech. Ford has always been the best with that. But they have to be good at something.
I love my Ford F-150 Platinum Hybrid. I reason I mention Plato is the dang thing listed for 76 grand ——nuts I know the dealer got at cost but still 68k. I’m old and can afforded it I don’t know how most folks afford any truck. But I just read somewhere a high percentage of new car notes are over 1000 per month. I can’t imagine I don’t farm but I do use the bed a good bit. I like that in Memphis I get 25mpg but if I need to scoot I can. Faster than anything except a TRX. Had a GM 6.2 and was not a fan. Now I do think the new GMC is best looking truck.
Yikes at the price of new full-size trucks! Props to you guys that can jump that high. I am teh poor.
Go on Edmunds and look at some of the reviews for the 2021 model year GMC Sierras. Astonishing how many lifter problems they're having at low mileage. If you pay that much for a vehicle it had better be a pain free ownership.
Nothing but problems
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I may be in the minority but I like the new Tundra exterior more than the previous generation. It was very dated before the model change. I do not care for the grille, however.
Watched an interesting video on EV's. Guy was saying if you buy one for the fuel savings then fine and dandy, but if you are buying it under the assumption that you are saving the planet then you are sadly mistaken as they are far from green. He said, in effect, all you are doing is transferring the pollution from where you live to the country where they are mining all the raw ingredients for the batteries and other components. While our level of pollution may be slightly reduced, it is greatly increased in those countries, but they don't care because they are dirt poor third world hellholes that are more concerned about not starving to death this week than anything else.
Well, it's like all this environmental BS. We could be completely carbon-free and it wouldn't matter with the level of pollution going on in china and india. Libbies don't have a problem with opec mining fossil fuels....they just don't want it done here. This is the fraud that environmentalists perpetuate that is never discussed. We could do all that much cleaner here, which would stimulate the economy and create jobs, while making the planet cleaner.
But it's not really about that with those people.
The US, Canada, and Western Europe are the absolute worst when it comes to the “not in my backyard” mentality. Can’t do it here but if it comes from somewhere else in the world it’s just fine.
They can pass all the laws they want to, but things don't usually happen at the speed we want when it comes to issues that large.
I am constantly blown away by this. I'm not a car person and I get some people are, but I still can't imagine the percentage of income that some people put towards cars. I'd be curious as to how many of the people with $1,000 car notes are saving more than $1,000 a month.
Angela Merkel built her legacy on outsourcing fossil fuels. She cozied up to Russia for years and basically skated with little criticism.
No ragrets
And her delegation laughed at us when we warned her that she was dancing with the devil.
That's the very definition of "when keeping it real goes wrong."
That's like calling Christianity a fraud because there is still suffering in the world. The point of Christianity is not to end suffering (at least not here and now) and the point of environmentalism isn't to make the environment cleaner. The sacrifice, (preferably some nominal sacrifice on your part, like a miniscule reduction in savings rate, and a much more meaningful sacrifice by people poorer than you, and preferably closer to you in geographic proximity) is the point. They are ritualistically cleaner if they reduce consumption and standard of living of other people. If it results in a net decrease in pollution, that's a nice plus but for the most part not really relevant.
Germanys Energy Secretary (or whatever they call the title) is a former activist with GreenPeace. That’s super logical. She hates nuclear power.
They're one of the least up to date tech wise of them all. The interior hasn't been properly updated in a long time.
From my experience:
Ford-I will easily get 300K miles. Most common issues are electrical, joints, and radiator.
GM- Still have damn gas cap issues, burn oil after about 120K
Dodge- where to start? Oil cooler housing, sensors everywhere, General dependability from motor to body, to front ends in diesels
Toyota- not a damn thing, but a plain *** truck interior and bad gas mileage(had to complain about something)
Nissan- don't have long enough area to type
Honda- you p u s s I e s drive a Ridgeline? LOL
Ford-I will easily get 300K miles. Most common issues are electrical, joints, and radiator.
GM- Still have damn gas cap issues, burn oil after about 120K
Dodge- where to start? Oil cooler housing, sensors everywhere, General dependability from motor to body, to front ends in diesels
Toyota- not a damn thing, but a plain *** truck interior and bad gas mileage(had to complain about something)
Nissan- don't have long enough area to type
Honda- you p u s s I e s drive a Ridgeline? LOL
I'm pretty close to replacing the radio in my 2017 Tundra to one that can do apple play.
a lot of Nissan hate in here. I only know two people who have them, and they both love them. I know the original Titans had brakes that were undersized, but what’s the problem with the current ones?
I'm in my 12th year of Ford F-150s. On my 2nd of 2 crew cab STX models. Never had either one in the shop, never had to do anything other than change the tires, the oil, and the batteries. Over 200k miles combined. I use trucks because I cut and haul a lot of firewood, I fish (need to pull my boat) and hunt, and I spend a lot of time building stuff in my yard (lots of hauling building materials). The 2.7L V6 eco-boost is great for all of that, it scoots if I want it to, and I get 23.5 mpg in a full sized truck, even with all of that hauling. I get the STX because it has a good bit of tech on the interior, but none of the crazy bells and whistles that a truck driver shouldn't really need. I can get it as dirty as I want doing all my work and play, and I'm not sitting there worried about messing up the interior.
The only truck I would consider changing to is a Tundra. They're definitely the gold standard. After watching my brother in law buy a GMC only to have to replace a cracked dashboard and get it repainted after 5 years (because the paint just started peeling off for no reason), I have Chevy/GMC ranked pretty low. And these are not one-off problems. They are both pretty common.
I can't speak to them as strictly a work truck or a farm truck, but personally, I rank them (full sized trucks):
1. Tundra
2. F-150
3. RAM 1500
4. GMC/Chevy 1500
5. Anything else that exists
6. Nissan Titan
I have the 2021 Denali Yukon fully loaded with the 6.2L, it is awesome.
You should give the new 2023 Sierras a look. They've upgraded the interior and it's really nice.