We know what we have with Howland. We will beat the bad teams, beat some average teams at home and lose to any good team (at home) or mediocre at best team on the road. Deep down, everyone knew we would lose tonight. Howland has never won a big road game. So are we ok with this? Or should we strive for more? At least we had some tremendous highs with Stansbury. We don’t have any great highs with Howland. I mean, we had a poster claiming a two-point home win over a now unranked Alabama team was our best win in 14 years. That tells you all you need to know. Fresh blood and energy is needed. Howland should be thanked for bringing us out of the Rick Ray hell, given a nice retirement package and shown the door at the end of the season.
Our basketball program has stagnated
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The bastards clamoring for Stansbury’s demise should be publicly flogged. What a bunch of dumb pricks they are.
You can’t convince me that we wouldn’t be better off right now if we would have kept Stans as opposed to firing him when we did.
I know this has been rehashed many times over, but the decision to cut Bailey instead of Sidney was the demise of this program.
You can’t convince me that we wouldn’t be better off right now if we would have kept Stans as opposed to firing him when we did.
I know this has been rehashed many times over, but the decision to cut Bailey instead of Sidney was the demise of this program.
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this cannot be reiterated enough. Brooks and McCray have absolutely no business being on an SEC staff.
Strange post. You start off saying that we fired Stans too soon….then say the demise of the program was cutting Bailey instead of Sidney? Who do you think made that call?
By everything I have ever heard from those in a position to know the right person was cut over that incident. There were posts made to that effect at the time.
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OK. Why are you telling me? All I was saying is that Stans made that call either way.
My sense is Howland's role is -- and always was -- a bridge from the Rick Ray era to the next coach who could take us up to the next level. This was essentially what Bob Boyd's role was between Hatfield and Williams back in the early 80's
The only question is how many years, which is likely between 3 and 5.
The only question is how many years, which is likely between 3 and 5.
Bro you just admitted that Stans had plenty of blame. He did his part to get himself fired.
The problem was, we did it in the wrong year. Should have done it after 2011, or waited until 2013 at earliest.
He was 43-22 when Perry and Woodard were on the roster. They made the NCAAT thr first season and covid shut down their second season before the SECT could take place.
Not sure how that is wasting talent, especially when half the games are when they were freshmen.
We weren’t making the NCAA Tournament in 2020 unless we won the SEC Tournament. Which wasn’t happening. I feel like we are buried in mediocrity that we can’t get out of. We’re like a Premier League team that constantly finishes in 12th place. Never in danger of relegation, but never challenging for any trophies. Just kind of meh. And fans don’t like meh. It’s boring. As I said before, Howland is a boring man who coaches a boring style of basketball and the fans haven’t taken to it.
Barring winning the tournament, we weren’t making the Dance. People love to give him credit for that season but we were clearly on the wrong side of the bubble.
Yes, I remember we were on the wrong side of the bubble that season. I didnt claim we were going to make the NCAAT that season.
We could have gotten another win or possibly two in the conference tournament and then played a couple more in the NIT.
An NCAAT and NIT plus winning 2/3 of games in 2 seasons isnt wasting talent. That was my point.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Every sports board has people who fly off the rails with a loss. Basketball is a game of ups and downs when you play teams with similar talent. Firing the coach is the answer to every disappointing loss.
7 years would be far too long
3 years at the shortest and 5 and the longest seems reasonable
3 years at the shortest and 5 and the longest seems reasonable
A team with Woodard and Perry on it had no business being anywhere close to the NIT. We were on the wrong side of the bubble in spite of having the SEC Player of the Year and being a Top 4 seed in the SEC Tourney. That’s a large failure.
We hired Williams basically because he was about the only person we could afford to hire at the time. About the only two differences between him and Ray were he was already on the staff....and he won when given the chance.
Stans last couple of years he spent more time with Meo and the Kids and less time coaching. Also kinda reading between the lines, mistakes were made crootin.
I was replying to both of you. The word at the time was that Stans put it to a team vote. You can make of that what you want to.
I think it's time. We have been slightly above average but there is absolutely no excitement to be had at this point. The Alabama broadcast had a time where the announcers were comparing Howland's old school coaching style to what Alabama was doing. We won that one so it's not a great example of why to move on, but it was interesting to me that the commentators took the time to notice and discuss how old school Howland is. Makes Saban's ability to adapt and continue to excel all the more impressive when you see how difficult it is to remain relevant in any high level coaching job.
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I remember when he was hired there were many on this board that were just down right giddy because Adidas had done us such a favor by convincing him to come here. Yeah, Thanks Adidas....
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