There were a couple of us on the board that saw great promise with Paris. Many did not. A question to those that did not...what's he got to do to get you on board? Not suggesting he's done enough already. But just curious to see what the point is.
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I think a lot of people didn't want to give him a chance because he wasn't the big name splash hire that had already won at a P5 school. However, I have never thought that getting a retread was the right course of action. A school like South Carolina needs to hit on a coach with promise who hadn't gotten the shot on the big stage before. Most retreads are older, stuck in their ways. They may be good for a couple seasons, but they are usually out of touch with where the game is going and don't want to do the work to recruit on the highest level. I though Paris' exhibited promise and was worth giving a shot and some of shots he took from our fanbase (has his team playing streetball) were misinformed and just came from a place of an unwillingness to give the man a chance.
I was a "wait and see" kind of person as I had never heard of him. Now, I'm happy with the way his team has played.
I don't think I've ever been down on Paris, but I would like a top4 finish in the sec.
Fair enough...and I agree with you. The challenge he had last year is kind of hard to fully appreciate. No idea how we're going to end the year, but we won 11 last year, and already have 5 this year.
Coaching hires are a 50/50 proposition. Just ask A&M. There was as much reason to think Paris was a bad hire as there was to think it was a good hire. It was a roll of the dice either to say one did or didn't see promise.
The team looks to be much improved this year, but it's early and we'll have to see how it goes when we hit league play. Obviously, any coach is going to be judged by whether and how often he makes the NCAAT. How long do we give Paris to accomplish that? Beats me. An NIT can buy some time. I'd say if after 5 or 6 years we haven't made an NCAAT, then we need to seriously evaluate.
I was a fan from day 1. Really enjoy listening to him speak. Listen for 30 minutes and you quickly realize he knows his ****. I also like that he enjoys more than basketball (culinary etc). Well rounded and grounded..
I know that this question was not directed at me since I have been on the Paris bandwagon from the beginning. Why was I on the Paris bandwagon from the start? Although he was not the "big name" hire I wanted, I looked closely at his record at UT-Chattanooga and saw a program where the team's conference and overall record and/or conference standing improved every year. And being a young guy, I felt he should have the energy to be a "go-getter" in recruiting. And the fact that he was mentored as an assistant by Bo Ryan, one of the top basketball coaches in the country in the first 15 years of this century, did not hurt either. I'm excited about the hoop potential. You know, we might have gotten lucky.
I'm hoping he keeps things moving in right direction. Time will be needed, hopefully that will happen.
I think Coach Paris is a good communicator with the kids and decent basketball players will come here to Columbia to play for him. Coach Paris improved the results as the season went on along last winter and that was a difficult task when you have a 17 year old, no depth from the bench and Chico on the bench frequently with injuries. Instead of waiting for university plane to pick him up from Tennessee, Coach Paris got into his car and drove to Columbia which shows he wants to be here.
I was on this board when Paris was hired. I was worried when all of Martin’s players left last year. Those guys along with GG could have been a tournament team. But… once GG left, we would have right back where we ended up with Martin. I liked the way Paris handled GG last year and he certainly knew who to bring in from the portal. He has already gotten these guys to play well even though they haven’t been together long. I’ll be happy as long as they make the NIT but believe they could be a tournament team. They shoot well and are very athletic. I’m impressed with Paris so far. I had very low expectations going into this season. He’s got them playing hard and unselfishly.
I am one of the biggest Paris supporters on this board. I would be thrilled if we made the NIT or even come close to making it. Even at this point (5-0), the NIT would exceed my expectations.
We have officially entered the “others receiving votes” group. We got 3 votes for top 25. Been a long damn time since we’ve even been in that group!!
Honestly he hasn’t done anything. Not even this year yet. We have played bad teams. We play Notre Dame, Georgia Washington, and Clemson next. I fully expect us to lose all 3
A loser would expect us to lose all three. Get lost.
ND squeaked a win against Niagara and lost to Western Carolina. Not sure why we should just expect to lose to them…unless that’s just what you do.
I think 5-0 is a great start, and hopefully lays a foundation for the rest of the season. But being realistic, the only decent team we've played so far is VaTech, and they are at best are a middling ACC team. I'm going to need see a bit more before I can get overly excited.
Agreed but regardless of who we played, 5-0 is better than all of us expected. I'm still expecting a rough season but finishing above .500 is a good step in the right direction.
Last year and the last few with Frankie, we could have expected tp be .500 at best against the same teams we are beating.
VT finished last year 75th in the net. GCU finished right around 100. Both would have been a quad 2 win based on last year's rankings. This year isn't out yet. We had 2 quad 2 wins all of last year. Other than our game, VT has hammered everyone they've played.
Coppin St, Campbell, and Wofford are hardly to be considered resume builders.
I didn't say they were. But there are a lot of teams that would love to say they've crushed teams they should beat. Ark is a top 20 team that just got beat by UNCG. Vandy lost to PC. LSU has lost to Nicholls and Dayton. Mizzou lost to Memphis and Jackson St. There's value in not losing.
Last year, if one is to use the argument of last year of opponents records, then one would have to use the same parameters for out team, and I believe we can all agree that is not a quotient we would want to use.
We'll find out more next week against Notre Dame. VMI and DePaul completely suck. VMI's only win this year is over some school called "Christendom". Still, 5-0 is as good as we could be possibly sitting right now.
Virginia Tech will be better than Notre Dame IMO. Just saying. I think we get George Washington because a get back game from last year and we have them at home. Now, the Clemson will be next true test of where this team is. Clemson is far from unbeatable though. We compete and see what happens.
I believe that people have to remember that we are just about 18 months out from when our basketball roster was obliterated after Martin was fired, not just due to graduation, but mass transfers. I'm personally keeping things with that perspective and thus, not expecting really good things this season. But, I am open to being surprised.
The portal is so huge for basketball. We went from one of the least experienced teams in the country to one of the most in a matter of months.
Who knows what's going to happen next? We should be pumped!!! If this were a Martin team, we would be 3-2 at best right now.
I will be here to take my medicine but I’ve seen this show before. Hope I’m wrong
Yes. Playing for Martin was like playing on a court with eggs. You had to be careful because you might break an egg and get Martin's temper tantrum. You have to get on a player's rear end at times. But Martin, imho, overdid it. I believe you play and work better when you are loose and not afraid of making a mistake.
I think South Carolina was 2-3 in their first five games last season so I will gladly take 5-0 with three neutral court site wins. The only compliant I with Coach Paris now is he needs to do a weekly press conference.
So far, this team looks better than last year's team. That's called improvement and is the first step to getting to where we eventually want to go. I can't draw any additional conclusions one way or the other.
As for what I'll need to see from Paris to conclude that he's "the guy," I guess I'll know it when I see it. The last guy took us to the Final Four and still turned out to be a dud, so it's clearly not a determination I can make based on sample size of one or two seasons. But I'm sure pulling for him.
As for what I'll need to see from Paris to conclude that he's "the guy," I guess I'll know it when I see it. The last guy took us to the Final Four and still turned out to be a dud, so it's clearly not a determination I can make based on sample size of one or two seasons. But I'm sure pulling for him.
NIT is a possibility if they continue to win the junk games and win 40% or so of conference games. I haven’t looked at the talent level at the other conference teams so don’t know what the likelihood is. Paris did hit the portal well. These guys can, shoot and drive the basket. They are also more physical. He did well filling our needs. He’s also got them playing well from the get go. If the conference is down, we could do better. Again, haven’t looked at the other teams so can’t say. But, yes, hasn’t won or proven much yet except bringing in the right guys and having them hungry and ready on day one.
Still unproven as far as SEC competitiveness is concerned. You guys!! 
So I just researched it. We are predicted to finish last. The top half is pretty loaded on talent. The 2nd half not so much. Eight conference wins would be huge step forward. If this team does more they definitely over perform. Let’s see what Paris can do. Definitely see this team being better than last year’s. The Tater game will give us an early look. They are more experienced. A win or gòod game there will show us what we have.
Yep….coaches kids when they come off the floor. Refreshing vs the “you’re an f’n disgrace” encouragement Frank used to give.
shocker….in other news, the world is round
True. It’s only December and we’ve got almost half the wins we had the entire year last year. Nothing wrong with seeing potential in that.Still unproven as far as SEC competitiveness is concerned. You guys!!
Clem has a really good team this year. That’s going to be a tough game.
This is arguably our best 5-game start to a season in 20+ years...
Not saying we should be booking flights to Phoenix but if you're not excited about where we're at right now what's the point of being a fan?
Not saying we should be booking flights to Phoenix but if you're not excited about where we're at right now what's the point of being a fan?