Let’s stay consistent Illinois is not a big boy. We’re in the big boy business that’s always been the argument. Kent/Rutgers/bowling green, they matter zero
Penn State at 9. Illinois at 19.
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show me a team that plays all "big boy" opponents
Apparently, you're fine with posters who never miss a chance to take a shot at CJF, even when he's not part of the topic under discussion. Maybe that should also make you sad.Sad how many threads are littered with completely irrelevant and unnecessary cheap shots at fellow posters. I refer, of course, to the self-congratulatory BWICAC references and the calling out of nobody in particular for being hypothetically unhappy about PSU and/or Franklin where no such displeasure has been expressed. Please continue to toot your behind-the-keyboard “superior fan” horns because it apparently boosts your self esteem.
Really, it’s designed to be as accurate as possible, to avoid sharp $ loading up on either side.
I don't think this is much of a discussion if we have all our players. we are down several key players and some who seem to be playing hurt. The ONLY reason that Ilinois won the game in 2021 was we had several key injuries including no QB. Clifford playing hurt was a disaster.
We have some high potential backups who don't have much experience.
full strength both sides we kill them.
The main takeaway I take from that disaster game is Bielma lining up in goal line offense from everywhere on the field and running the ball down our throat. Pry seemed reluctant or slow to change anything and it was painful to watch.
I'm admittedly not a sports wagerer, thus I don't understand the generous number of points (17 - 18) the bookies are affording PSU.
I think Illinois is a very difficult opponent for PSU and could very well win the game outright. Beilima has already demonstrated that he knows how to kick Franklin's arse to the curb with lesser talent. While the "White Out" can be intimidating, Illinois has shown that they can play well in a hostile environment at night.
PSU Offense vs Illinois Defense
Illinois has a large D-line and doesn't hesitate to play 5 - 7 men at or near the line of scrimmage daring the opponent to run the ball while relying on 5 - 7 defensive backs, who are aggressive and physical, to defend the pass. Nebraska struggled with this look as did Kansas. By the time the 4th quarter rolled around, Illinois D-line was dominating the LOS and their D-backs, especially #14, were ball hawks.
PSU's OL has been relatively good in pass protection but hasn't demonstrated an ability to consistently open up running lanes, especially between the tackles.
Illinois Offense vs PSU Defense
Illinois' offensive line, in true Beilima fashion, is huge and semi-mobile. Sure they grab and hold, but if unflagged they can certainly open holes for their RB's and give their QB ample time for quick short throws without fear of getting sacked. We all know PSU's D-Line is again woefully undersized this season to effectively compete in the expanded B1G. By the 4th quarter, Illinois should be able to run and pass the ball at will as they did against the Jayhawks and Huskers.
Tell me why I shouldn't bet the majority of my life estate for Illinois to cover a 17.5 point deficit and the residual of my life estate for them to win outright?
What am I not understanding?
I think Illinois is a very difficult opponent for PSU and could very well win the game outright. Beilima has already demonstrated that he knows how to kick Franklin's arse to the curb with lesser talent. While the "White Out" can be intimidating, Illinois has shown that they can play well in a hostile environment at night.
PSU Offense vs Illinois Defense
Illinois has a large D-line and doesn't hesitate to play 5 - 7 men at or near the line of scrimmage daring the opponent to run the ball while relying on 5 - 7 defensive backs, who are aggressive and physical, to defend the pass. Nebraska struggled with this look as did Kansas. By the time the 4th quarter rolled around, Illinois D-line was dominating the LOS and their D-backs, especially #14, were ball hawks.
PSU's OL has been relatively good in pass protection but hasn't demonstrated an ability to consistently open up running lanes, especially between the tackles.
Illinois Offense vs PSU Defense
Illinois' offensive line, in true Beilima fashion, is huge and semi-mobile. Sure they grab and hold, but if unflagged they can certainly open holes for their RB's and give their QB ample time for quick short throws without fear of getting sacked. We all know PSU's D-Line is again woefully undersized this season to effectively compete in the expanded B1G. By the 4th quarter, Illinois should be able to run and pass the ball at will as they did against the Jayhawks and Huskers.
Tell me why I shouldn't bet the majority of my life estate for Illinois to cover a 17.5 point deficit and the residual of my life estate for them to win outright?
What am I not understanding?
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See your first comment (unless you want to bet your life savings on a coin flip). Many that that do make a living at this have the line as pretty spot on. From what I’ve seen, it seems that some are overrating the Illinois performance to date this season.
Illinois isn't very good. Better than last year - largely due to improved QB play - but still not very good.
Meanwhile, PSU is viewed as being a top-12 caliber team.
That is a pretty big gap.
I think it is that simple.
Credit to them for beating Nebraska in Lincoln, but Nebraska is no world-beater themselves - and played a rather poor game (IMO). Matt Ruhle, FWIW, has probably been one of the lower-end coaches in the nation wrt game management decisions (Though I think he may eventually put together a pretty successful team in Lincoln). But last week he once again lent his game management to the cause of helping Nebraska pull defeat from the jaws of victory. One of the reasons Nebraska has struggled so much in close games.
I knew there was something wrong with this thread. Where are the booby pictures??? Just bought new bifocals and wanted to see how much better booby pictures look with them on!!!
I'd love to know where the source of confidence that some have is coming from. PSU'S best win is vs a team that lost to Pitt. While I think PSU should ba a solid favorite I see this as a hard fought contest. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. Bottom line, you aren't a playoff team because the experts say so.
Penn State has been very strong against the spread until it's three losses last year; but, IMO, I don't take anything for granted anymore. Penn State has lost to teams it is better than (on paper) in the past.
I'm admittedly not a sports wagerer, thus I don't understand the generous number of points (17 - 18) the bookies are affording PSU.
I think Illinois is a very difficult opponent for PSU and could very well win the game outright. Beilima has already demonstrated that he knows how to kick Franklin's arse to the curb with lesser talent. While the "White Out" can be intimidating, Illinois has shown that they can play well in a hostile environment at night.
PSU Offense vs Illinois Defense
Illinois has a large D-line and doesn't hesitate to play 5 - 7 men at or near the line of scrimmage daring the opponent to run the ball while relying on 5 - 7 defensive backs, who are aggressive and physical, to defend the pass. Nebraska struggled with this look as did Kansas. By the time the 4th quarter rolled around, Illinois D-line was dominating the LOS and their D-backs, especially #14, were ball hawks.
PSU's OL has been relatively good in pass protection but hasn't demonstrated an ability to consistently open up running lanes, especially between the tackles.
Illinois Offense vs PSU Defense
Illinois' offensive line, in true Beilima fashion, is huge and semi-mobile. Sure they grab and hold, but if unflagged they can certainly open holes for their RB's and give their QB ample time for quick short throws without fear of getting sacked. We all know PSU's D-Line is again woefully undersized this season to effectively compete in the expanded B1G. By the 4th quarter, Illinois should be able to run and pass the ball at will as they did against the Jayhawks and Huskers.
Tell me why I shouldn't bet the majority of my life estate for Illinois to cover a 17.5 point deficit and the residual of my life estate for them to win outright?
What am I not understanding?
Perhaps not a white out game. But he covers his cherry pie in mounds of vanilla ice cream.
I'm admittedly not a sports wagerer, thus I don't understand the generous number of points (17 - 18) the bookies are affording PSU.
I think Illinois is a very difficult opponent for PSU and could very well win the game outright. Beilima has already demonstrated that he knows how to kick Franklin's arse to the curb with lesser talent. While the "White Out" can be intimidating, Illinois has shown that they can play well in a hostile environment at night.
PSU Offense vs Illinois Defense
Illinois has a large D-line and doesn't hesitate to play 5 - 7 men at or near the line of scrimmage daring the opponent to run the ball while relying on 5 - 7 defensive backs, who are aggressive and physical, to defend the pass. Nebraska struggled with this look as did Kansas. By the time the 4th quarter rolled around, Illinois D-line was dominating the LOS and their D-backs, especially #14, were ball hawks.
PSU's OL has been relatively good in pass protection but hasn't demonstrated an ability to consistently open up running lanes, especially between the tackles.
Illinois Offense vs PSU Defense
Illinois' offensive line, in true Beilima fashion, is huge and semi-mobile. Sure they grab and hold, but if unflagged they can certainly open holes for their RB's and give their QB ample time for quick short throws without fear of getting sacked. We all know PSU's D-Line is again woefully undersized this season to effectively compete in the expanded B1G. By the 4th quarter, Illinois should be able to run and pass the ball at will as they did against the Jayhawks and Huskers.
Tell me why I shouldn't bet the majority of my life estate for Illinois to cover a 17.5 point deficit and the residual of my life estate for them to win outright?
What am I not understanding?
I agree:
Illinois has always played us tough and been a thorn on the side. Brett Bielma game plans well against the Penn State.
Not sure I agree with always. A few times, yes.
Illinois Bielema did a nice job in 2021 when our starting QB played injured and not so much last year. Wisky Bielema was 1-3 (removing the post Sandusky 2011 game) with 2 PSU blow outs.
If you want to play the transitive property game a pick six was the difference in their game against Kansas at home (who lost to WVU). We beat WVU by more than 20 on the road.
The only place Bielema should get a knee is to his nuts.But not by tooooo much, easy there!
Be ready to take a knee at the right time too
Yeah, the pick six was on an attempted screen pass by KU deep in their own territory seconds before the half ended. Ouch ouch ouch!
It appears virtually impossible to knee him there with that gut hanging down to his ankles.The only place Bielema should get a knee is to his nuts.
There you go again ... bringing facts to a bad narrative!
The only place Bielema should get a knee is to his nuts.
I’m with you on that!
Sometime back, I took to calling him “Coach Bag-of-sh*t-ema.”
I know that doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue (ew) but at the same time I feel it has the perfect ring to it, and I’m sticking with it.
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