Per Rosebowl, Dennis Thames will commit to MSU
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Different one....this one was a flanker from Macon.</p>
You could technically add Eric Rice to the list too....though he did grow up in the edge of Oktibbeha county.</p>
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You could technically add Eric Rice to the list too....though he did grow up in the edge of Oktibbeha county.</p>
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Wow, I contradict some of the things Yancy says, but I'm a sheep.
Ok, that makes sense.
Obviously you don't know the story behind Patterson....nor the connection with Moore/Thames to Yancy. If you did, you'd understand why I said what I did.
Ok, that makes sense.
Obviously you don't know the story behind Patterson....nor the connection with Moore/Thames to Yancy. If you did, you'd understand why I said what I did.
that the two of the top prospects in Mississippi (Boyd and Bumphis) are the ones you have no clue about. Maybe that's because UM knows they are out of the running for both of them and haven't given you many tidbits or sniffles here lately. Im sure that you could give me countless facts about Thames, Winston, and a guy no one has ever heard of in Dale Juniad. I also don't give a **** if the Kentucky baseball program falls off into the ocean. That's basically where it was when Cohen went there. Winning at Kentucky at the level that Cohen did is like taking Mississippi Valley State in basketball to the Elite 8. All I know is Cohen will win at MSU.
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Yancy wrote an article that was published on scout in Feb that said OM offered Boyd.
If you as a rival fan are paying for Yancy's info, you are as big of a dumbass as he is. You post his **** with astonishing frequency.
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If you as a rival fan are paying for Yancy's info, you are as big of a dumbass as he is. You post his **** with astonishing frequency.
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with the combination of Nafoom and Sixpack, the info gets out there. Also, when you come with Titus Brown, 99.9% of MSU fans are going to think of the Titus Brown that played and basically started for us the last 4 years. Not some flanker from Noxubee County as you say a while back. I've never heard of that guy before.
If you are talking about Patterson's dad being upset with Pat going ahead and commiting to MSU without talking with his parents or whatever, that has already been cleared up and his family is behind him. Remember, Patterson almost committed to MSU back on junior day when he was first offered. It's also funny that neither MSU, UM, or USM offered Clayton Moore up until the offer from the Rebels. They guy was basically on no one's radar and all the in-state talk was about Chris Garrett and a guy named Tyler Russell. Once Moore committed to UM, Yancy ranks him ahead of Garrett (LSU commit) and Russell (MSU commit). Nevermind that scout.com has Garrett and Russell ranked ahead of Moore. I mean, how biased is that. Robertson continues to have Garrett ranked ahead of Russell in his Mississippi rankings eventhough we got burned by him. Porter wouldn't do that.
If you are talking about Patterson's dad being upset with Pat going ahead and commiting to MSU without talking with his parents or whatever, that has already been cleared up and his family is behind him. Remember, Patterson almost committed to MSU back on junior day when he was first offered. It's also funny that neither MSU, UM, or USM offered Clayton Moore up until the offer from the Rebels. They guy was basically on no one's radar and all the in-state talk was about Chris Garrett and a guy named Tyler Russell. Once Moore committed to UM, Yancy ranks him ahead of Garrett (LSU commit) and Russell (MSU commit). Nevermind that scout.com has Garrett and Russell ranked ahead of Moore. I mean, how biased is that. Robertson continues to have Garrett ranked ahead of Russell in his Mississippi rankings eventhough we got burned by him. Porter wouldn't do that.
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Grad typically has really good information. It's a lot more reliable than anything Yancy brings, and from my experience, he's usually right when he brings information to the table. He obviously doesn't get his information from the Spirit or any recruiting sites because he often disagrees with what they are reporting.
If he was just being a sheep, he'd retort every single point that was made. However, he said he didn't know about some of the points, which shows that he's only giving you the information on players that he knows about. I believe that Grad either works in our athletic department or has a very close friend working in our athletic department or on the coaching staff, because he's typically got information that you don't see other places. Therefore, I'd probably pay attention to what he's saying.
Edited to add: He does often leave out a lot of pieces of information, which I've ribbed him about before, but what he does give is typically accurate, which leads me to believe he does have the story/facts to support his statements.
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Phillips, Thames, etc. Every piece of the puzzle supports Rosebowl over Yancy. It's not logical to believe Yancy. He's wrong, and so are you.
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I know about Boyd and Bumphis, but don't know what they are going to do. Therefore my answer. I've actually met Bumphis, but I wouldn't know Boyd if he walked in the door. I've never heard of Juniad, have no idea who he is. I have somewhat of a connection to Patterson, Thames and Moore.....so yea, I do know some things about them.JacksonDevilDog said:
that has very good connections with high school coaches all across the state about specific players that Ole Miss is recruting. That would make sense to me.
Pre-Orgeron: "What exactly is the term "recruiting" and how does it benefit a football program?"
During Orgeron: "We are currently ranked 19th in the nation in recruiting. We are 1-4 this year, but I think this kid from Kosciusko deserves another star by the way he juked that fat black kid from Noxapater. Yancy, can you push for this kid to be evaluated again? Thanks for all your good work. How was your fishing vacation?"
Post-Orgeron: "Recruiting is overrated. Who cares if we get the Mississippi kids or not? This Juniad kid with offers from Dallas Baptist and Baylor looks good on the hoof. Stars are overrated."
By the way: Juniad is a commit that yall have in football. I would think with your knowledge and Bruiser's support, you would know that. Also, Boyd is a MSU commitment. If he walked in the door, you would probably know him because he stand around 6-4 and 300 lbs.
Pre-Orgeron: "What exactly is the term "recruiting" and how does it benefit a football program?"
During Orgeron: "We are currently ranked 19th in the nation in recruiting. We are 1-4 this year, but I think this kid from Kosciusko deserves another star by the way he juked that fat black kid from Noxapater. Yancy, can you push for this kid to be evaluated again? Thanks for all your good work. How was your fishing vacation?"
Post-Orgeron: "Recruiting is overrated. Who cares if we get the Mississippi kids or not? This Juniad kid with offers from Dallas Baptist and Baylor looks good on the hoof. Stars are overrated."
By the way: Juniad is a commit that yall have in football. I would think with your knowledge and Bruiser's support, you would know that. Also, Boyd is a MSU commitment. If he walked in the door, you would probably know him because he stand around 6-4 and 300 lbs.
Grad talked about Titus, not me.
Now you might have convinced me that you weren't paying had you said that you had a borrowed password to the Spirit. Lots of people do. However, now that you have claimed to be gathering this info from 6pack & nafoom, I know you are paying for it.
You have been posting the stuff for weeks and it's essentially copy and paste stuff that wasn't here until you posted it. And you want me to believe you compile the stuff from here & nafoom. Try harder.
Now you might have convinced me that you weren't paying had you said that you had a borrowed password to the Spirit. Lots of people do. However, now that you have claimed to be gathering this info from 6pack & nafoom, I know you are paying for it.
You have been posting the stuff for weeks and it's essentially copy and paste stuff that wasn't here until you posted it. And you want me to believe you compile the stuff from here & nafoom. Try harder.
I use my father-in-law's scout.com subscription to Gene's page. I used to have one, but I'll just save the 10 bucks a month because I can find the info out in other places. It's basically common knowledge on this board that the recruiting info and rumors are prevelant here. Goal Holder is pretty good about posting some rumors that he hears and there are others as well. I could never log onto Gene's page and basically find out what's going on over here.
But there are multiple MSU fans that their Ole Miss buddies let them use their subscription to read over there. And the other way around. Plus Rosebowl can read that entire spirit board and Yancy can read the entire Gene's page. It's just gotten real bad this year.
Based off of what I've read, I full expect Ole Miss' signing class to look like this:
Pat Patterson
Fletcher Cox
Chad Bumphis
Dennis Thames
Clayton Moore
Darrius Winston
Jamal Berry
Chris Garrett
Deonte Skinner
Kendrick Hardy
Matt Barkely
Chris Davenport
(Note: The Barkley and Garrett commits are jokes.)
But there are multiple MSU fans that their Ole Miss buddies let them use their subscription to read over there. And the other way around. Plus Rosebowl can read that entire spirit board and Yancy can read the entire Gene's page. It's just gotten real bad this year.
Based off of what I've read, I full expect Ole Miss' signing class to look like this:
Pat Patterson
Fletcher Cox
Chad Bumphis
Dennis Thames
Clayton Moore
Darrius Winston
Jamal Berry
Chris Garrett
Deonte Skinner
Kendrick Hardy
Matt Barkely
Chris Davenport
(Note: The Barkley and Garrett commits are jokes.)
Grad never said Patterson would end up at Ole Miss. He just said that Patterson's commitment to MSU wasn't 100% solid and that we were still in the picture. Those are two different things. All I'm saying is that Grad does have some reliable sources, and his information isn't coming from the recruiting sites, which is where most everyone else is getting their information.
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I don't know where he'll end up. I doubt anyone does for sure.
I'm just saying it's not over.
I will admit, it would be hard for Ole Miss to pull him out of your back yard.
Much harder than it was for you to pull Phillips, because we were not paying him much attention early on.
I'm just saying it's not over.
I will admit, it would be hard for Ole Miss to pull him out of your back yard.
Much harder than it was for you to pull Phillips, because we were not paying him much attention early on.
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Also, whatever info you have on Patterson is either just flat-wrong or wishful thinking. He's going to State.
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Didn't I read an article by Yancy or Steve that quoted Phillips or Dan Hicks about how most Oxford high school football players don't like UM or something? I remember seeing that somewhere over there. To be honest with you, there is absolutely NO reason for MSU to come into Oxford and get a pretty decent athlete. No reason. If he's worth a ****, which from what I've heard he is, you offer him. He's located about 2 miles from Vaught Hemmingway.
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Stalker? I talk to Doug almost everyday on the phone or over the computer.
Nice try.
I was simply saying if you know him, it's probably best not to bother him while he's at work during his first week.
Nice try.
I was simply saying if you know him, it's probably best not to bother him while he's at work during his first week.
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When it comes to recruiting, nobody knows what goes on in these guys minds. Some middle-aged redneck runs into a high school player's coach in Wendy's and says "So Coach, whar's ol' twente-too goin' tuh school? He gon' be a Reb?" Coach responds, being political, "I dunno, looks like ol' Nutt's gonna build a good program up there." Redneck to his friend (loud whisper) "Yew hear that? He's tryin tuh tell us that we gottem!!" And hence, a "credible source" is born. I trust recruiting sites more than hearsay, because they usually at least have some quotes actually from the player that you can interpret yourself. Unless if the hearsay comes from a state fan on sixpack.
Is Doug, Pat Patterson's father? Is that what you are implying over here? If that is the case, which is fine, you talk about how he has a brand new job. You say it in a way that would make some people think there is something going on with that.
"Ole Miss is still in the game with Pat Patterson. His father just got a brand new job."
I mean what the hell is this ****? Seriously?
"Ole Miss is still in the game with Pat Patterson. His father just got a brand new job."
I mean what the hell is this ****? Seriously?
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That's not the opinion he is giving the Ole Miss staff.
I will admit many of the locals go away to play ball because they grew up there and 'the grass is always greener'.
Much like the Fabris brothers, Travis Macon, Eric Rice, Gerald Gallik, Orlando Trainer, Keith Thompson, Zeppelin and Breck Tyler.
I will admit many of the locals go away to play ball because they grew up there and 'the grass is always greener'.
Much like the Fabris brothers, Travis Macon, Eric Rice, Gerald Gallik, Orlando Trainer, Keith Thompson, Zeppelin and Breck Tyler.
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I disagree. It isn't the case with every kid, but especially in a small town you have a lot of people who want to go away for college to get a change. Even growing up in Memphis, I had a lot of friends, non-athletes, that could've gone to Memphis for cheap, but they chose to go to other schools so they could experience something different.
If you look back at our track record, we don't do all that well with kids inside Lafayette County. I chalk that up to the fact that most of them have already done the Oxford thing growing up and they want college to be a different experience. So in reality, I put our chances at about 50/50 when it comes to kids from Lafayette County, solely because so many of them want to go somewhere else.
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There's no comparison between a kid growing up in Memphis not wanting to go the the University of Memphis and a kid growing up in a town with a real university not wanting to go to the home-town university. I can't imagine that many people would go to Memphis for any other reasons than convenience or their options were limited.RebelBruiser said:
If y'all did not know the Rebels are going to steal our whole recruiting class because Tech is going to beat us and we are only going to win 2 games. The Mississippi recruits will see the light when Ole Miss goes 9-3. How do they know this? Because Nutt said so and you can tell that the players believe. Nutt said they were going to win and he is a breath of fresh air. Croom said our goal is the SECCG and he so crazy. Snead said he believes they can win and he is a true leader. Carroll says we can win and he is delusional. They will continue to believe that they are going to take who ever they want right up until they sign with State and then they will start on next year's delusion and chalk 08 up Melvin paying players.
and yes I know about the reply button, but it would not work so I had to use quick reply.
and yes I know about the reply button, but it would not work so I had to use quick reply.
You're probably right. That was a bad example, but I still think that our history with Oxford/Lafayette prospects shows that it applies to small towns too. It just seems like most Oxford kids, even non-athletes, prefer to go away for school. If you live there full time, and you grow up there, you most likely are going to want to experience something new for college, something not so close to your parents.
Memphis "stole" a prospect or two from our backyard as well, and even that didn't surprise me. Like I said, we're probably looking at about a 50/50 shot at getting Oxford kids to Ole Miss. It's not like it's rare that a kid from Lafayette County goes somewhere else. It happens a lot.
Memphis "stole" a prospect or two from our backyard as well, and even that didn't surprise me. Like I said, we're probably looking at about a 50/50 shot at getting Oxford kids to Ole Miss. It's not like it's rare that a kid from Lafayette County goes somewhere else. It happens a lot.
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