Perhaps not what you want to "hear" right now, but your Nittany Lions had one heck of a run this season!

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Perhaps they did to some, but in reality, they blew it. They'll never have an easier path to a NC than this year. If, when they are in the playoffs again, I seriously doubt they will be able to win 3 big games in a row and thus are destined to lose their last game every playoff season.
 
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We had a great run and we blew it. Two truths that don’t contradict each other.

Also, nice of you to put “hear” in quotation marks. Appreciated. ;)
I guess I could have just went with read and been done with it. 😂 Rodent brain...
 
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We had a great run and we blew it. Two truths that don’t contradict each other.

Also, nice of you to put “hear” in quotation marks. Appreciated. ;)
We had a really good season and we didn't win. I am not going to say we blew it. We had a couple of opportunities to win that game and we didn't take advantage of them. ND had a couple, as well, and they we able to take advantage.
 

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Perhaps they did to some, but in reality, they blew it. They'll never have an easier path to a NC than this year. If, when they are in the playoffs again, I seriously doubt they will be able to win 3 big games in a row and thus are destined to lose their last game every playoff season.
As could be said of every team but the one that finally wins it. Tough to lose last night. There are many teams that did not get to where PSU did. Fans of every team that loses always think their team blew it. Never is a long time.
 

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As could be said of every team but the one that finally wins it. Tough to lose last night. There are many teams that did not get to where PSU did. Fans of every team that loses always think their team blew it. Never is a long time.
`Thank you Mister Obvious but that wasn't my point. I was speaking of PSU blowing this golden opportunity. To me they were the better team and should have won and gone on to the Finals. After they fix this ill-advised playoff ranking system, I don't foresee us being in the Finals any time soon if ever. I just hate the thought of watching my team their last game every year.
 

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`Thank you Mister Obvious but that wasn't my point. I was speaking of PSU blowing this golden opportunity. To me they were the better team and should have won and gone on to the Finals. After they fix this ill-advised playoff ranking system, I don't foresee us being in the Finals any time soon if ever. I just hate the thought of watching my team their last game every year.
Why? They‘re going to make the playoffs regularly.
 

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Though not the result you wanted IMHO should have had, but you had a great team this year. If I were betting, I would bet that you'll be right back in the hunt next season.

Cheers!
The very best non-PSU poster! Thanks - you are always classy. Unfortunately, it just feels like the SOS. Heck we almost lost to the boat-rower.
 

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Why bother then? Why give PSU Football any of your energy if you've already predetermined that they're going to lose? Seems silly to feel that way and continue to be a fan of the program. Lots of programs out there will happily take you on their bandwagon.
There has to be charity work this person can do on Saturdays between August and January. What a benefit to his community s/he will be!
 
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Perhaps they did to some, but in reality, they blew it. They'll never have an easier path to a NC than this year. If, when they are in the playoffs again, I seriously doubt they will be able to win 3 big games in a row and thus are destined to lose their last game every playoff season.
Easier path to an NC? They would have to beat ND and OSU to win. Who, by the way, were #1 and # 2 in pass defense. They make good QBs look average. With less than elite WR, Drew (any QB, Ewers,Gabriel) would (did) have a very difficult time. Oh yeah, Texas and Oregon did have elite receivers.
 

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Easier path to an NC? They would have to beat ND and OSU to win. Who, by the way, were #1 and # 2 in pass defense. They make good QBs look average. With less than elite WR, Drew (any QB, Ewers,Gabriel) would (did) have a very difficult time. Oh yeah, Texas and Oregon did have elite receivers.
ND’s defensive passing stats were aided significantly by playing Army and Navy.
 

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ND’s defensive passing stats were aided significantly by playing Army and Navy.
That’s a good point, however, they blitzed well and covered well. Yeah, they grab and such, but all teams (including us) do.

Like offensive holding, you could call PI or D-holding on almost any play. Football is evolving like basketball; penalties and violations that we played to are no longer penalties or violations. No “steps” or “palming” in basketball…. no holding, minimal or questionable PI in football!
 

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That’s a good point, however, they blitzed well and covered well. Yeah, they grab and such, but all teams (including us) do.

Like offensive holding, you could call PI or D-holding on almost any play. Football is evolving like basketball; penalties and violations that we played to are no longer penalties or violations. No “steps” or “palming” in basketball…. no holding, minimal or questionable PI in football!
And, I believe like the ncaa basketball tourney, the deeper into the CFP you go, the fewer penalties get called in the name of “let the players decide the outcome”.
 

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And, I believe like the ncaa basketball tourney, the deeper into the CFP you go, the fewer penalties get called in the name of “let the players decide the outcome”.
True!! However, they have to be consistent for both sides.

On one hand, you don’t want refs to control and influence the game. But you need consistency and integrity.
 
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Perhaps they did to some, but in reality, they blew it. They'll never have an easier path to a NC than this year. If, when they are in the playoffs again, I seriously doubt they will be able to win 3 big games in a row and thus are destined to lose their last game every playoff season.
Glass half empty all the time?
 

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`Thank you Mister Obvious but that wasn't my point. I was speaking of PSU blowing this golden opportunity. To me they were the better team and should have won and gone on to the Finals. After they fix this ill-advised playoff ranking system, I don't foresee us being in the Finals any time soon if ever. I just hate the thought of watching my team their last game every year.
Just curious. Are you a Philly fan also?
 

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Perhaps they did to some, but in reality, they blew it. They'll never have an easier path to a NC than this year. If, when they are in the playoffs again, I seriously doubt they will be able to win 3 big games in a row and thus are destined to lose their last game every playoff season.
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Why bother then? Why give PSU Football any of your energy if you've already predetermined that they're going to lose? Seems silly to feel that way and continue to be a fan of the program. Lots of programs out there will happily take you on their bandwagon.
That's funny that you don't understand. I had a friend in high school (almost 60 years ago) who was a huge Chicago Cubs fan. When you understand why he rooted for them for decades (he was a true fanatic) knowing for almost a certainty they were never going to win it all then you may understand the "why" you ask of me. Been a "true fanatic myself" for PSU since the 50's, following my dad's lead, he was an alum and a fanatic too. It's funny you think I should have the same opinion as you. The only silly thing is your post.
 
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Easier path to an NC? They would have to beat ND and OSU to win. Who, by the way, were #1 and # 2 in pass defense. They make good QBs look average. With less than elite WR, Drew (any QB, Ewers,Gabriel) would (did) have a very difficult time. Oh yeah, Texas and Oregon did have elite receivers.
Winning a NC is never easy, but it's peculiar that you ignored their 1st two games (SMU and BS) in your argument. So convenient to eliminate facts contrary to your side of the discussion. Don't worry though, there are scads of posters in here who do the same thing. PSU's path to the NC this year couldn't have been easier.
 

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Just curious. Are you a Philly fan also?
That' an odd question considering the gist of this thread, but to answer your query I like the Eagles because my daughter lives there and roots for them. If you mean baseball, the answer is no, I do not follow MLB, not one little bit.
 

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Glass half empty all the time?
That's a nonsensical deduction to assume from my post which was fact based. It's illogical to call it pessimistic or optimistic for that matter. But I am considering the source too ...
 

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That’s a good point, however, they blitzed well and covered well. Yeah, they grab and such, but all teams (including us) do.

Like offensive holding, you could call PI or D-holding on almost any play. Football is evolving like basketball; penalties and violations that we played to are no longer penalties or violations. No “steps” or “palming” in basketball…. no holding, minimal or questionable PI in football!
We handled their blitz exceedingly well…and still failed.
 

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That' an odd question considering the gist of this thread, but to answer your query I like the Eagles because my daughter lives there and roots for them. If you mean baseball, the answer is no, I do not follow MLB, not one little bit.
Philly fans generally have a nonstop glass half empty outlook on their teams. Sometimes it penetrates here too.
 
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Fact based 🤣🤣
Facts:
1. We blew it, we were the better team.
2.Name an easier path. You can't there isn't one.
3.You actually believe we can win 3 big games in a row? Wow.
4. You're no good at this, stop while you're 10 miles behind.
Philly fans are generally have a nonstop glass half empty outlook on their teams. Sometimes it penetrates here too.
Thanks for the info but it has nothing to do with me.
 

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Facts:
1. We blew it, we were the better team.
2.Name an easier path. You can't there isn't one.
3.You actually believe we can win 3 big games in a row? Wow.
4. You're no good at this, stop while you're 10 miles behind.

Thanks for the info but it has nothing to do with me.
“Facts” 🤣
 

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That's funny that you don't understand. I had a friend in high school (almost 60 years ago) who was a huge Chicago Cubs fan. When you understand why he rooted for them for decades (he was a true fanatic) knowing for almost a certainty they were never going to win it all then you may understand the "why" you ask of me. Been a "true fanatic myself" for PSU since the 50's, following my dad's lead, he was an alum and a fanatic too. It's funny you think I should have the same opinion as you. The only silly thing is your post.
I grew up a Cubs fan - lives just North lf the City and went to hundreds of Cubs games and knew full well they would lose most but still they were my team.
 
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Perhaps they did to some, but in reality, they blew it. They'll never have an easier path to a NC than this year. If, when they are in the playoffs again, I seriously doubt they will be able to win 3 big games in a row and thus are destined to lose their last game every playoff season.
So, in the previous playoff format and B1G setup, we still had to win several big games to get to the national championship game. For us to get into the playoff, we had to essentially beat beat OSU or UM (maybe even both in certain years), and hope no one else had a better record in the division, then win the division so that we could get into the B1G championship game, win the championship game, and then win the semifinal in the CFP. Granted not all of those wins are in a row, but that was still a lot of big wins. Now, we can still get into the CFP without even playing some of those teams, and there is still a little more room for error. If we have a dominant season, it is still possible to have a decent path in the future.
 

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So, in the previous playoff format and B1G setup, we still had to win several big games to get to the national championship game. For us to get into the playoff, we had to essentially beat beat OSU or UM (maybe even both in certain years), and hope no one else had a better record in the division, then win the division so that we could get into the B1G championship game, win the championship game, and then win the semifinal in the CFP. Granted not all of those wins are in a row, but that was still a lot of big wins. Now, we can still get into the CFP without even playing some of those teams, and there is still a little more room for error. If we have a dominant season, it is still possible to have a decent path in the future.
That is the most convoluted post I've ever read. Congrats.