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From the Clarion-Ledger:
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From the Clarion-Ledger:
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needed to sit on the damn ground? I don't like to sit on the ground. It gets my pants dirty. Not everybody wears polyester slacks like cops do.
And we still don't know what really happened here. But the bottom line is the girl called the cops (whether or not Phil did anything to justify getting the cops called on him). The time to leave was when she first called them so he wouldn't even be there when they arrived. But since he did stay until they arrived, he should have sat on the ground when they told him to. Not smart on his part no matter how you look at it.</p>
Madison's Constitution. I am conservative -- a died in the wool, hard core, to the right of Attila the Hun, back to the ideals of the founding fathers type of conservative. I am the conservative that modern conservatives have forgotten. Think Goldwater. Think Jefferson, who ironically was a flaming liberal of his time.
they should have arrested him. Or actually, by my previous recommendations, they should have loaded his *** up in the car and dumped him on the doorstep of Coach Stansbury and made him deal with him. If he wouldn't leave private property at the request of the resident, they could have charged him with trespassing, or disturbing the peace (particuarly if he was paying someone to play Johnny Cash songs at over 80 db -- obscure past thread reference. Sorry.)
I feel for Phil Turner- I've been there and done that.
Fortunately for me, I left before the po-po came.
Fortunately for me, I left before the po-po came.
But if he was harassing a girl (allegedly) and wouldn't quit even after she called the cops (pretty evident since he was still there when they arrived), he probably could have very easily been charged with something else if the cops had wanted to. Sounds to me like they cut him a break.
is entirely possible, and might be the only explanation. That's why I think that a "disobeying officer's orders" or whatever the hell the charge is, is ********. Hell, if I break the damned law, charge me. But, don't subject me to sitting down, rolling over, or whatever one of cowbell's KGB agents tells me to do. (And yes, I understand he broke the "do what the storm trooper says" law. I just don't think that should be a law.)
incorrect. But, George Washington was the first President of the United States of America. If you call Samuel Huntington the first, I guess you and I would disagree on titles.
The Articles of Confederation resulted in a President of of the United States in Congress Assembled. You said President of the USA. USA is the United States of America. Hanson was the 3rd to hold such office. It was a non chief executive office. The President under the articles presided over Congress and over a cabinet in the absence of Congress.
Samuel Huntington was the presiding President of the 2nd Continental Congress. Upon ratification of the Articles of Confederation, he continued to serve -- thus he was not elected to the office. However, his successor, Thomas McKean was elected -- but only after the first elected refused to accept the position. That was Samuel Johnston.
Samuel Huntington was the presiding President of the 2nd Continental Congress. Upon ratification of the Articles of Confederation, he continued to serve -- thus he was not elected to the office. However, his successor, Thomas McKean was elected -- but only after the first elected refused to accept the position. That was Samuel Johnston.
You want to find something to really be pissed about the legal system in this country, well how bout this. You can legally have your assets (typically I've seen cash and cars) seized and not ever be charged with any crime at all. Under the asset seizure laws, cops can legally seize your assets if they have reason to believe they were used in committing a crime or are the proceeds from a crime. But they don't have to actually even charge you with the alleged crime, much less convict you. And when the asset seizure comes to court, the burden of proof is on you to prove that you did not use those assets in a crime or they weren't the proceeds of a crime. Even if you were never charged with a crime in the first place. If you can't prove the assets were legitimate, you just lost them. I've seen this happen at least 50 times in my line of work and it never ceases to amaze me that this could possibly be constitutional.
...John Hanson was #1. The soldiers of the Revolution demanded to be paid and there was no money. President Hanson convinced them to hang tough. Then, he demanded all flags other than ours to be banished. AND, the Presidential Seal that we use to this day, was created by John Hnason. Live and learn youngsters...live ande learn
The thing is, trespassing and harassing people and not stopping IS illegal. So, it sounds like the cops were within reason. If he had done what they said, they may have told him to get over it, leave and maybe issue a restraining order a few days later and that would be the end of it.
I'll tell you what is abuse is when I was trying to cross the street to go to the Saints/Colts game a few years ago. I was walking IN A CROSSWALK with the WALK sign going and one of Jackson's finest for some reason made me go to the other crosswalk parralel to the one I was in to cross the street. When I asked him why he yelled "GO!"I gave him the <17> you look all the way across.
But I did what he wanted, and I got to go to the game instead of missing the game and going to jail. I'm not defending Turner here, but what I'm saying is right or wrong, it's usually going to be better to do what the police want and get your pants dirty than not.
I'll tell you what is abuse is when I was trying to cross the street to go to the Saints/Colts game a few years ago. I was walking IN A CROSSWALK with the WALK sign going and one of Jackson's finest for some reason made me go to the other crosswalk parralel to the one I was in to cross the street. When I asked him why he yelled "GO!"I gave him the <17> you look all the way across.
But I did what he wanted, and I got to go to the game instead of missing the game and going to jail. I'm not defending Turner here, but what I'm saying is right or wrong, it's usually going to be better to do what the police want and get your pants dirty than not.
Cowbell's first president isn't constitutional either....he was actually the third (4th if you count the dude that refused the office) articilized President. (yes, I made that word up.)
His compelling speach to the troops to hang tough -- and the creation of the Presidential seal. That's what made him President first. WTF?
That makes him a great guy. But, it doesn't make him ever President of the United States of America. And it doesn't even make him the first President of the United States in Congress Assembled. And just to be fair, I did point out that if we disagreed, it would be over titles. </p>
That makes him a great guy. But, it doesn't make him ever President of the United States of America. And it doesn't even make him the first President of the United States in Congress Assembled. And just to be fair, I did point out that if we disagreed, it would be over titles. </p>
Who the congress elected is irrelevant. Wow. They had two elected before Hanson. Never mind. This is retarded. George Washington is the answer to your question. Had you wanted Hanson as the answer, you should have worded your question better. And even then you would have been wrong. ****.
Here's a question: Would Phil Turner have even come up with George Washington as the answer? Would he have come up with that the night he was arrested?
Here's a question: Would Phil Turner have even come up with George Washington as the answer? Would he have come up with that the night he was arrested?
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What, is the dude the highlander or something? Or are you talking about the Great Seal of the U.S.A.? In that case, was this guy also named Franklin, Adams, and Jefferson?
Live and learn you old fart. Is this you: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/9785
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.yet GW didnt take office until 1789 (April). The Presidents before him were:
1. John Hanson
2.Elias Boudinot
3. ThomaS Mifflin
4. Richard Henry Lee
5. John Hancock
6. Nathan Gorman
7. Arthur St. Clair
8. Cyrus Griffin.
Articles of Confederation didnt work. States had too much power and nobody could agree on anything. thats why the Constitutuon was written. GW was the 1st Prez under the Constitution.
1. John Hanson
2.Elias Boudinot
3. ThomaS Mifflin
4. Richard Henry Lee
5. John Hancock
6. Nathan Gorman
7. Arthur St. Clair
8. Cyrus Griffin.
Articles of Confederation didnt work. States had too much power and nobody could agree on anything. thats why the Constitutuon was written. GW was the 1st Prez under the Constitution.
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