Playing time for Sellers?

[18IsTheMan]

At this point, it takes an extremely optimistic outlook to see us getting to six wins. I simply do not see it happening. That being the case, I wonder when the coaches start to think about getting Sellers more playing time so he goes into next year with a decent amount of real game experience. Obviously, Rattler is not the problem and is the only consistent positive for this team. so it’s not getting Sellers playing time because Rattler is not doing well, but I don’t think we can afford to go in the next year with all the other issues that we might have, and throwing into that mix an inexperienced quarterback.

I guess maybe you hold out hope and see if we can steal a game on the road in the next couple weeks. But if that does not happen, he should get substantive snaps in our last four games of the year.

 

[Tusi21!!]

Rattler is not the problem. Why risk it?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Rattler is not the problem. Why risk it?

Risk what?

 

[Tusi21!!]

Risk what?

Sellers.

 

[Prestonyte]

I think having specific packages for Sellers and putting them in for planned usage and actually using them at some point would be wise. Rattler seems to be a mentor to Sellers and a team player who would not have a problem with a planned series for Sellers.

 

[kidrobinski]

Not going to happen. Whatever ‘experience’ he would get by doing something like that would be of minimal if any benefit next year and would just cause confusion.

The exception would be if we somehow make a bowl game; if I was Rattler, I’d sit the bowl game out. THEN would be a good time to plug Sellers in.

But we wouldn’t. Hello Luke.

 

[Prestonyte]

Not going to happen. Whatever ‘experience’ he would get by doing something like that would be of minimal if any benefit next year and would just cause confusion.

The exception would be if we somehow make a bowl game; if I was Rattler, I’d sit the bowl game out. THEN would be a good time to plug Sellers in.

But we wouldn’t. Hello Luke.

Bowl Game????
Maybe the Toilet Bowl

 

[Viennacock]

Risk what?

Let's give it a break. I know some of you don't agree but he's redshirting unless Rattler goes down. He'll play in three more games and it will likely be on the backend.

 

[Gamecock9395]

Maybe Jack State, and Vandy, if we get this season rolling and a shot at a bowl game, Sellers may be the guy. By then, SR should be a solid 1-2nd rounder and wouldn't risk his future on the Gravy Bowl or whatever bottom bowl we get.

 

[HockeyCock16]

Can Sellers play defense?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Let's give it a break. I know some of you don't agree but he's redshirting unless Rattler goes down. He'll play in three more games and it will likely be on the backend.

Well, that's exactly the point. Where in the OP did I say anything about burning his redshirt? Anywhere? No. We have 3 more chances to get him, real, substantive playing time this season. I don't even want to think about what this season would look like if we didn't have Rattler under center. I certainly don't want to go into next year's buzz saw of a schedule with a QB who has barely played.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Maybe Jack State, and Vandy, if we get this season rolling and a shot at a bowl game, Sellers may be the guy. By then, SR should be a solid 1-2nd rounder and wouldn't risk his future on the Gravy Bowl or whatever bottom bowl we get.

Sorry to say, my friend, bowl dreams went down the crapper last night.

 

[Statepawdog]

Sorry to say, my friend, bowl dreams went down the crapper last night.

Sorry to say, my friend, bowl dreams went down the crapper last night.

Sorry to say, my friend, bowl dreams went down the crapper last night.

I would not say that the bowl dreams are dead. I see three more wins with Vandy, Jax state, and an overrated Kentucky team. The clemson game will be huge.

 

[gamecox4982]

Sellers has four games that he can play in and still be redshirted. If he doesn’t get meaningful snaps it would be an absolute waste of a good opportunity. Heck, who’s to say he will even be here next year.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I would not say that the bowl dreams are dead. I see three more wins with Vandy, Jax state, and an overrated Kentucky team. The clemson game will be huge.

At this point, I don't see any locks on our schedule outside of Jacksonville State. Even they are 5-2, so I don't think we're looking at a cakewalk in that game. Vandy's record sucks, but they held up well against UGA on Saturday. We should win that one, but we could lose it as well.

I don't see any reason to believe we can beat Kentucky at this point, but we'll see.

If our bowl hopes are not dead, they are circling near the bottom of the drain.

 

[Viennacock]

Well, that's exactly the point. Where in the OP did I say anything about burning his redshirt? Anywhere? No. We have 3 more chances to get him, real, substantive playing time this season. I don't even want to think about what this season would look like if we didn't have Rattler under center. I certainly don't want to go into next year's buzz saw of a schedule with a QB who has barely played.

Why would it make sense to play him now versus playing him late season in winnable games? If you play him now, it makes sense to burn the redshirt.

With Rattle playing well, it simply doesn’t make sense to play him now unless you plan to burn the redshirt.

 

[Lurker123]

Why would it make sense to play him now versus playing him late season in winnable games? If you play him now, it makes sense to burn the redshirt.

With Rattle playing well, it simply doesn’t make sense to play him now unless you plan to burn the redshirt.

I think it's just a matter of which 3 games to play him in.

We have slim hopes for a bowl, but they do exist. So, we can't throw away games for the sake of his experience.

Vandy and JS are the only ones I can think of where he has a shot at playing decent snaps.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Why would it make sense to play him now versus playing him late season in winnable games? If you play him now, it makes sense to burn the redshirt.

With Rattle playing well, it simply doesn’t make sense to play him now unless you plan to burn the redshirt.

I didn't say when specifically to play him. We have 6 games left. You have to have an extremely positive outlook to see us getting to 6 wins. Yes, we have Vandy and Jacksonville State and we should hope Sellers can get some substantial playing time in those games. He can still play in one other game and retain his redshirt.

Even so, I don't see retaining the redshirt as all that essential. We aren't looking to be particularly thin at QB in the coming years. It's of much greater value to me that we go into next season with a QB who has been in some games aside from garbage snaps.

 

[Viennacock]

I didn't say when specifically to play him. We have 6 games left. You have to have an extremely positive outlook to see us getting to 6 wins. Yes, we have Vandy and Jacksonville State and we should hope Sellers can get some substantial playing time in those games. He can still play in one other game and retain his redshirt.

Even so, I don't see retaining the redshirt as all that essential. We aren't looking to be particularly thin at QB in the coming years. It's of much greater value to me that we go into next season with a QB who has been in some games aside from garbage snaps.

I mentioned you could argue against a redshirt. I am not arguing for or against a redshirt but if you are going to redshirt him (which is clearly the plan), let him play significant snaps against Vandy and Jacksonville st. and possibly Clemson. If you play him now and rattler gets hurt during or before the Clemson game, you are screwed in terms of a redshirt.

What our coaches are doing or not doing is logical if you plan to redshirt him.

 

[Celtic Riot]

Rattler came here to put tape out for the NFL. That would be extremely disrepectful to just play a freshmen after all he's done for us. We would never get another portal QB ever if we pulled that move.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Rattler came here to put tape out for the NFL. That would be extremely disrepectful to just play a freshmen after all he's done for us. We would never get another portal QB ever if we pulled that move.

Nobody is suggesting we bench Rattler.

However, coaches always have to have an eye on the future. I, for one, do not want to go into next year playing a QB who has hardly set foot on the field.

 

[Prestonyte]

Rattler came here to put tape out for the NFL. That would be extremely disrepectful to just play a freshmen after all he's done for us. We would never get another portal QB ever if we pulled that move.

See post #5 above

 

[Viennacock]

Nobody is suggesting we bench Rattler.

However, coaches always have to have an eye on the future. I, for one, do not want to go into next year playing a QB who has hardly set foot on the field.

Having a redshirt freshman QB gives Beamer and the fans an out next year

 

[18IsTheMan]

I think having specific packages for Sellers and putting them in for planned usage and actually using them at some point would be wise. Rattler seems to be a mentor to Sellers and a team player who would not have a problem with a planned series for Sellers.

This is exactly what I had in mind.

I don't think the redshirt is all that important in today's world of college football.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Having a redshirt freshman QB gives Beamer and the fans an out next year

haha, well, you're dead-on about that.

 

[GamecockVec]

Why waste his RS year

 

[18IsTheMan]

Why waste his RS year

It's 2023.

 

[Viennacock]

It's 2023.

I agree with you but if we were going to burn it, It should already be burned. At this point, redshirt him.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I agree with you but if we were going to burn it, It should already be burned. At this point, redshirt him.

What do we really consider the value of a redshirt these days, though? Do we think Sellers will be our starting QB through 2027?

I don't necessarily know the best way to approach it, but I know we can't have a totally inexperienced QB next year. Unless the coaches think he's just that good.

 

[Prestonyte]

I agree with you but if we were going to burn it, It should already be burned. At this point, redshirt him.

If I'm not mistaken, we have 3 games left to use the above planned series strategy for Sellers and not burn the redshirt. Vandy, Jax St are likely choices and one other.

 

[Viennacock]

What do we really consider the value of a redshirt these days, though? Do we think Sellers will be our starting QB through 2027?

I don't necessarily know the best way to approach it, but I know we can't have a totally inexperienced QB next year. Unless the coaches think he's just that good.

Here are my thoughts. With NIL, you never know. If he turns out great and a big booster gives him reason to stay, he may stay. Particularly if he is enjoying school. There have been top QB's that have stuck used all of their eligibility. If he is good and not an NFL prospect (like Rattler last year), he very well could stay 5. He could transfer at some point but being an instate kid, I don't think that happens.

With Rattler having a good year and it being this deep in the season, redshirt him.

I hear what your saying but we already screwed the pooch if we didn't plan on redshirting him.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Here are my thoughts. With NIL, you never know. If he turns out great and a big booster gives him reason to stay, he may stay. Particularly if he is enjoying school. There have been top QB's that have stuck used all of their eligibility. If he is good and not an NFL prospect (like Rattler last year), he very well could stay 5. He could transfer at some point but being an instate kid, I don't think that happens.

With Rattler having a good year and it being this deep in the season, redshirt him.

I hear what your saying but we already screwed the pooch if we didn't plan on redshirting him.

I don't disagree with any of that. Just not keen on going into next year's schedule totally green at QB.

 

[Celtic Riot]

Nobody is suggesting we bench Rattler.

However, coaches always have to have an eye on the future. I, for one, do not want to go into next year playing a QB who has hardly set foot on the field.

I do agree with you guys on having packages that should have always been the plan. I think the thought was Sellers would get the entire few weeks of bowl prep and the bowl game but that is looking like a pipe dream at the moment.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I do agree with you guys on having packages that should have always been the plan. I think the thought was Sellers would get the entire few weeks of bowl prep and the bowl game but that is looking like a pipe dream at the moment.

If and it's an enormously huge IF we made a bowl game, I'm not sure Rattler would sit out, though. He made a statement before last year's bowl game that there was no way he'd sit out on his teammates after battling together all year. And that was before his decision to go pro or stay. I would certainly think Sellers would get extra practice and game reps, though. UNLESS, we were 6-6 at that point and we want to end with a winning record for aesthetics and need to play Rattler the whole way to do so.

Beats me.

 

[Deleted11512]

If and it's an enormously huge IF we made a bowl game, I'm not sure Rattler would sit out, though. He made a statement before last year's bowl game that there was no way he'd sit out on his teammates after battling together all year. And that was before his decision to go pro or stay. I would certainly think Sellers would get extra practice and game reps, though. UNLESS, we were 6-6 at that point and we want to end with a winning record for aesthetics and need to play Rattler the whole way to do so.

Beats me.

I would be shocked if Ratt sat for the bowl. He got to experience that nonsense last year, and it sucked. If I recall, Sam Howell got a lot of praise from NFL teams for playing in the Mayo bowl in 2021.

I don't think Sellers is going to get anything from running wildcat, and I don't think you throw him out there in conference games unless it's a blowout either way.

 

[Celtic Riot]

If and it's an enormously huge IF we made a bowl game, I'm not sure Rattler would sit out, though. He made a statement before last year's bowl game that there was no way he'd sit out on his teammates after battling together all year. And that was before his decision to go pro or stay. I would certainly think Sellers would get extra practice and game reps, though. UNLESS, we were 6-6 at that point and we want to end with a winning record for aesthetics and need to play Rattler the whole way to do so.

Beats me.

Yeah, he may want to play but I think that's where those after the season talks come in. Like hey man we want you on the sidelines and with us, but it is in your and our best interest to get the next group ready and you prep for the draft. Beamer has also made those comments on the bowl game being an extra spring game it would be interesting to see how that played out because you're right Rattler would probably want to play.

 

[Viennacock]

I would be shocked if Ratt sat for the bowl. He got to experience that nonsense last year, and it sucked. If I recall, Sam Howell got a lot of praise from NFL teams for playing in the Mayo bowl in 2021.

I don't think Sellers is going to get anything from running wildcat, and I don't think you throw him out there in conference games unless it's a blowout either way.

Jim Mora would say bowl game??? "Are you kidding me. I just hope we could win another game".